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thedupuisner
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Jun 23, 2017
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Hate to be the PCMR in the room buuut:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xmNGFd
Jun 23, 2017
Tex-Arozzi
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Jun 24, 2017
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thedupuisnerThank you for sharing this link 3 times. Actually it helps to prove what a good value this computer actually is. Sometimes you can PC Part pick and get components that are better and the price is also more attractive. However in this comparison you have shown us that you can only save $60 for a lesser attractive case with no RGB lighting. You will not have a warranty of 2 years on the entire product as you do here (and the warranty is all from the same manufacturer). Also, and I know its a dated part but just in case you ever needed it this computer has a Super Multi DVD Read/Write drive.
Jun 24, 2017
thedupuisner
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Jun 24, 2017
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Tex-ArozziYeah... I built that computer purposely using vastly superior components and it was still cheaper...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w8m8cc
THIS build is actually more apples-to-apples with the MSI pre-built shown and includes the optical drive. If aesthetics are so important then someone could use the $419.48 in savings (or $499.47 if you deduct the current case, after shipping and rebates) to get what ever fancy "gamer-y" case and RGB lighting kit they wanted.
Also the parts on this list that typically could/would fail are going to have a warranty in excess of 2 years as well: 10 years on the power supply 3 years on the GPU 5 years on the liquid cooler 5 years on the HHD 5 years on the SSD
It does look like I was wrong about the Aegis TI3 not being available with a 1080 TI so sorry about that... but even MSI doesn't have their shit together with their marketing material:
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Jun 24, 2017
Tex-Arozzi
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Jun 24, 2017
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thedupuisnerApples to Apples? No. But I will not go back and forth with you all day. I have owned but pre-built and I have also built my own. There are Pro's and Con's either way. Just for the record in your latest build you put in a founders edition card. The card that comes with this drop is the MSI Gaming Edition. Also the SSD, HD, and Ram memory are not even in the same ballpark as what components come with this machine.
I am not trying to persuade you into a pre-built machine. But if you are going to make a comparison. Do some research, find out exactly what components come with a machine before comparing with something on PC Part Picker. That is all I ask.
Also, on a side note. The reason you can not find this on MSI's website is that it is the newest release that is not even on MSI's website or available anywhere until next month. You can find it on a couple of site as coming soon but thats all.
This is the closest link you can find to it on MSI's website but even it does not have the specific models.
https://www.msi.com/Desktop/Aegis-Ti3.html#productFeature-section
Jun 24, 2017
thedupuisner
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Jun 24, 2017
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Tex-ArozziOK then: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JhnnVY
Stepped away from the founders edition GPU. All reputable brands and models with excellent value, warranties, and performance. Still $369.32 less (or $449.31 less case, factoring in rebates and shipping). And the M.2 SSD I included is truly NVMe, with 3D NAND, 1.6 million hours MTBF, with a 5 year warranty. Meanwhile, I'm not familiar with any consumer 2.5" SSD's capable of NVMe protocol (via U.2) short of the Intel 750... which is incredibly expensive and to my knowledge doesn't even come in a 512GB capacity...
I never really wanted to argue either. I just thought this was a discussion board for enthusiasts. If I'm wrong let me know!
Again, " I'm not saying this is a bad computer but it's just not the great deal you may think it is (compared to other pre-builts like Alienware it probably is though)."
Jun 24, 2017
Blastguy
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Jun 26, 2017
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thedupuisnerNope, you're not wrong. Also the ability to be able to upgrade and switch out whatever parts you want in the future is what makes it more worth to build a pc instead of getting a prebuilt even if you're only saving $100 (but usually you're saving a lot more).
Jun 26, 2017
Arker_1
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Jun 26, 2017
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BlastguyUh...a prebuilt can be upgraded too...don't know where you get the misconception that all prebuilts can't be upgraded. Maybe from Alienware? Then again, the only reason anyone serious about computers would really buy Alienware is to either rate it, show off their paycheck, or just for the case.
Jun 26, 2017
Blastguy
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Jun 26, 2017
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Arker_1Well not all and there's no guarantee unless you actually watch someone open and try.
Also I'm not talking about adding a drive I'm talking about bigger upgrades like replacing motherboard and video card. It's just that sometimes these weird looking cases have some things hard to get to or irreplaceable parts.
I'm not speculating either, 1st hand experience. I have a friend who wanted to upgrade his prebuilt (he has one from Lenovo I think) and his PSU is the exact wattage he needs, no room for a more powerful video card or maybe CPU upgrade. Not to mention that his PSU was LITERALLY soldered into the case so it can't even be replaced.
If you build a computer its a guarantee guarantee that you'll be able to upgrade it however you want in the future. Basically no proprietary crap.
Jun 26, 2017
thedupuisner
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Jun 26, 2017
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BlastguyNailed it. Upgrading means more than just the ram, drives, and GPU... It means moving to a new processor/platform and reusing everything short of the CPU/mobo. Also, the idea of someone who can't/won't build a computer upgrading in this particular case is laughable after you watch the LTT review of it Lol
Jun 26, 2017
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