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PhilSnip
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Jun 10, 2015
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Being this incredibly slow and withholding/making it hard to get info it is probably my first and last buy. Too bad because there is much awesome stuff here.
Jun 10, 2015
ryan.williams
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Jun 10, 2015
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PhilSnipThey aren't withholding information, they told us it would be the 29th. Also, we're getting a great deal from a team of guys who barely take any of the cut. Its not slow if its what you payed for.
Jun 10, 2015
PhilSnip
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Jun 11, 2015
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ryan.williamsWhen did they do that? I got no info what so ever about the drop after purchasing(or until this date). What i paid for was what i believed to be a genuine bargain, and here i am being told the MSRP is basicly bullshit, AND i have to wait for weeks/months. I was just sharing the experience of my first drop.
Jun 11, 2015
wowsers
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Jun 11, 2015
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PhilSnipJust remember the MSRP cans (K712's/annies) are also probably only worth around half of their MSRP (not counting RnD that is). So it's still a bargain even if the shipping times are ridiculous and they're basically Q701's with annie/K712 head-strap and pads, I still consider that a fair trade between price/performance. Also, this is the first batch of cans after the 'first edition' ones, so we might see a difference when it comes to sound if AKG/MD decided to change the sound signature to be a bit warmer and replicate the K712's/annies even more (very, VERY unlikely though).
Jun 11, 2015
Zombie_X
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Jun 12, 2015
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PhilSnipThey listed the estimated ship date in the drop description.
Jun 12, 2015
ryan.williams
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Jun 12, 2015
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PhilSnipI guess you just have to weigh both sides, you know? Either you pay more to get it faster, or you pay less and get it slower in turn (Also we are getting free shipping in the U.S.). But that was pretty clear when purchasing, and if it was that hard to wait, you could have purchased it used on eBay for like the same price.
Jun 12, 2015
mwweichi
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Jun 12, 2015
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PhilSnip"When did they do that? I got no info what so ever about the drop after purchasing(or until this date). "
The estimated shipping date was shown at the top of the page before the drop ended. What information is it that you want? The purpose of Massdrop is to find manufacturers that will take orders for group-buys, allow people to group-buy, and it takes time for manufacturers to fulfill the orders. Believe it or not, AKG can't make 1200 K7XX's magically appear. They have to be manufactured and then shipped to Massdrop.
"What i paid for was what i believed to be a genuine bargain, and here i am being told the MSRP is basically bullshit"
A product can have any Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (MSRP). The intended purpose of the MSRP is simply to inform retailers of what the manufacturer recommends they sell the products for, and the actual amount is just an arbitrarily determined number just like if a kid selling lemonade chooses to sell lemonade at $0.25, $0.50, or $1 each. Manufacturers can and often will create MSRP's that allow for deceptive sale prices and/or significantly greater profit margins for themselves and/or for their retailers, but this is taken for granted in the world of commerce. What would you think if a child were to advertise lemonade at 90% off of an MSRP of $100 each? In this digital world where you have access to incredible amounts of information for researching products, you have no one to blame but yourself if you fall for deceptive high MSRP and discounts instead of looking at what matters: the actual sale price to performance ratio. And in a sentence, the K7XX are considered to be great price/performance.
"AND i have to wait for weeks/months."
Massdrop and AKG chose to allow people to get into the drop about one month before the estimated ship time. They could have chosen to allow people to get into the drop 1 day before the estimated ship time, 2 days, 3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks, two months, five years, etc. It doesn't change the fact that it still takes the same exact amount of time and labor to manufacture, ship, and distribute this amount of goods, and that regardless of whether they announced the drop one week before estimated shipping date or one year before estimated shipping date, they would have to put the same amount of time and labor into it and have completed the progress at the same ETA of late June.
"I was just sharing the experience of my first drop."
All I am seeing is a lot of invalid complaints. You are getting a "genuine bargain", and you are getting it in a timely manner at a date which was clearly disclosed to you. Try not to be so upset about things, it can't be healthy for you.
Jun 12, 2015
Prada
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Jun 12, 2015
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mwweichi"All I am seeing is a lot of invalid complaints."
The majority of people will only come back to the Drop's discussion page when they have a complaint, which is why most of the "my other drops were..." people are complaining. Otherwise there is no reason to return. If there was a genuin issue/complaint then Massdrop would have sorted it viar email (like they did with rattle, even though it wont/didn't affect 99% of users).
I was in on the last drop (Headphone No. 4416) and these are fantastic cans, mine arrived 2 days later due to unforseen weather problems (no fault of Massdrop or AKG). Transparent, clear, wide and ever so slightly 'fun'. Coming from closed back headset style, the reduction in bass shocked me. Instead of loud boomy bass; there is balanced, toned and well rounded sub audio. A treat for the ears. :)
I see you've joined this drop, I hope you (and others) enjoy them!
Jun 12, 2015
Xoted
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Jun 12, 2015
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mwweichiThis was my first drop and I've a second concurrently with headphone pads. After watching myself start at number 116 and go down to # 89, over twenty percent drop-out, I too am concerned.
Could it be MD padding initial numbers (ethics) internal people reserving then changing their mind (what do they know that I don't) or just something normal? It was in posts and is a valid buyer's question. I can see where someone would be somewhat panicked, at least I met someone from the crew at a can show, and got a recommendation to use MD from a couple of people.
Then I've seen other comparisons with a headphone drop that was $70 cheaper, with comments on the web, basically stating they couldn't tell much difference between the two. They liked them equally. $70 dollars is a lot of money for a lot of people. I was lucky seeing a few people who posted that this drop was a fair value, so I am going ahead with it. Getting fair value isn't always easy.
Other posters, as you and I, are their customers, and it's apparent that a portion of their customer base needs a greater amount of communication. You may call it hand holding, but if MD doesn't address its customers' needs, someone else will. People vote for companies with their dollars. I for one would like to see MD stick around.
If you search this drop, someone posted that there is less communication on this drop than previous drops.
I also want you to see what my headphone drop has as far as communication. This is the second communication, in a little more than a week, on the $20 (not $200) headphone pads:
>>"We have some great news to share with you all. Everything is right on schedule, and the vendor should have all the units shipped out within the next couple of days.
Expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 6/16 or sooner if something comes up." <<
Two simple sentences addressing the present and the future.
Personally, I hope everything is ok with the team running this drop.
Jun 12, 2015
wowsers
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Jun 12, 2015
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XotedI think they are just too busy with all other drops, but yeah they should be able to write a simple "yo, stuffs happening like it should" or something. I've dropped to 355'th position, I started at 388 when I joined, I only dropped 4 times after the initial end of drop, I wonder if people who got dropped from the list could give us some info or maby there's just an issue with the counter. We can just wait and see at this moment, I'll program some more in the meantime.
Jun 12, 2015
asdf123454321
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Jun 13, 2015
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XotedOn limited drops (especially ones that fill up), people realize that it's better to join then decide against buying and drop out instead of deciding to buy and finding a full queue. This results in people joining right when the drop starts to ensure a spot then dropping out as the timer counts down. After the drop ends, a couple more people may drop due to payment issues or other special circumstances.
As for the value of the headphones, you can look at the specs and compare. However the specs don't take into account comfort, durability, limited supply, brand name, etc. that could drive up the price. From what I've heard, this is a combination of the 712 Pro, and 65th anniversary which are both well over $200.
That's all I know :) I agree with you on all your points though. It's a little uncomfortable for me how little information they have provided given the amount of people asking.
Jun 13, 2015
Xoted
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Jun 14, 2015
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asdf123454321Thank you for sharing your experience.
Jun 14, 2015
ReCodeDetro
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Jun 14, 2015
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XotedHey you're 4 away from me. I started at 100 though. Crazy math.
Jun 14, 2015
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