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Oct 13, 2015

Hi, sorry if it has been asked countless times, but 398 pages is too much to go through ;)
I am a heavy CS:GO player, will these be decent? There was a PSA on reddit saying these are bad for CS:GO: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/3di6k6/psa_if_youre_looking_into_akg_k7xx_in_massdrop/
I am upgrading from a ~$160AUD Sennheiser wireless that is 9 years old. So they don't have to be perfect for CS:GO, just decent.
Thank you for your time.

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Oct 13, 2015

TestbrahExcuse my French but that is some bullsh*t. Blame the game's bad sound design, don't blame the headphones. And that goes for any low quality source files, if you play your 10-year-old 96kbps MP3s from LimeWire on good headphones/speakers they will sound worse. And he is recommending the COP's which are a bassy closed back. These are very detailed and have a wide and accurate soundstage making them some of the best gaming cans but don't sacrifice bass and immersion factor like the AD700 does for example. They will blow away your wireless Senns in SQ.

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Oct 13, 2015

OcticepsThat's not really fair; he's giving valid PSA that the analytical nature of the K7XX isn't an ideal match for CS:GO due to their general nature; which while extremely good and detailed is fatiguing (especially with lower quality sources such as the AK47 sound). I love my Grado's but I won't game for an extended period with them as it gets outright painful after awhile. Likely the same with the K7XX (which I have yet to bite on). For FPS gaming you want a bit of a smoother signature to avoid fatigue over extended sessions; and likely closed for LAN party isolation with as wide of a sound as possible. That is probably not the K7XX; even if CS:GO had perfect audio.
Application trumps raw sound quality.

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Oct 13, 2015

w00mYou know what, you're right. If you love the sound of Grados, you probably won't like these or most other balanced headphones. I guess one Reddit shitposter knows better than all the people who swear by the AKG 700 or ATH-AD series for competitive FPS gaming due to their soundwhoring prowess.

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Oct 14, 2015

OcticepsSo in my case, I should not buy for CS:GO if I use for roughly 2~3 hours a day? Will it really be that painful?
I will be using the headphones for Pandora, Twitch and watching TV and Movies on the side too.

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TastyPastry

Oct 14, 2015

TestbrahThe bottom line is really this, you'll have a nice, very revealing pair of cans, which you'll be using to play very low quality audio files for 2-3 hours per day. Yikes! But that said, if you don't think that will bother you (and it probably won't if you've never experienced audiophile 'phones before) then in the end there's not really any problem. I don't know what your current audio setup is, so I can't really say if this $200 dollar investment is worthwhile for "stepping up" your game. That's a decision you can decide though, I am sure. Cheers.

Oct 14, 2015

TestbrahThese will be great for those use cases. They are not painful at all. Grado, now that is a painful sound signature.

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Oct 14, 2015

OcticepsThanks @Octiceps and TastyPastry for your replies. I am 90% sold on this drop. :)

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SeT9

Oct 14, 2015

TestbrahI don't think it will be painful... Depends on your tolerance to treble. I haven't heard the k7xx yet, but I have other balanced sounding headphones with similar treble and had no problems. If you want to see what a painful treble looks like compare the graphs on innerfidelity, k7xx vs the hd668b. The hd668b have a boosted mid bass that is not really a problem... But that treble spike can get really painful.
What kind of headphones do you use now? That will affect your initial impressions.
I think the part people say is annoying or "painful" might be because higher detail headphones reveal all the problems in lower bitrate and poorly mastered audio files. There are mistakes that blurry cheap headphones will smooth over, and the k7xx will reveal any crunchy garbled compressed details. On the other hand, with good music and audio files, you hear all that realistic fast detail you were missing before.
I have always been interested in hearing the huge soundstage and "out of head" feeling that akg headphones are known for. And since these have raised the bass from the older models, this seems like the right price to try them.

Oct 14, 2015

TastyPastryI am using these headphones http://www.cnet.com/products/sennheiser-wireless-rf-with-charging-cradle/ with my ASUS Sabertooth Z77 on-board sound. https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_Z77/specifications/ Will the on-board power the K7XX just fine? :)

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Oct 14, 2015

TestbrahDoesn't hurt to try, but these sound best with an amp. My laptop has the Realtek ALC892 codec also and the K712 sounded wimpy on it. Ofc your mobo's implementation of the codec may differ but I wouldn't expect a whole lot of difference, and like all onboard sound it's gonna be affected by electrical noise and interference from inside the computer. The DACport Slim that CEntrance posted is a good portable amp, as is the Fulla. The Magni 2 and O2 are good desktop amps.

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MartyM

Oct 14, 2015

OcticepsGrado is ''painful sound signature'' how ?

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Oct 14, 2015

MartyMLack bass, harsh sibilant treble, high distortion, thin and tinny sounding

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Oct 14, 2015

OcticepsI wouldn't say *painful* as much as fatiguing. Good Grado's are absolutely wonderful for rock/metal sessions. I would likely never recommend them as a persons primary headphone though if they planned to ever sit for more than an hour at a time. Different sound signatures have things they sound best with.
For instance; as a primarily gaming/FPS headphone for someone who lans, I'd probably push toward Beyer DT770s instead of K7XX. Closed/better isolation, *almost* as large of a sound stage; and a less fatiguing sound signature (more of a U response).
K7XX are more detailed; but that's not the end-all for all situations.

Oct 14, 2015

w00mThey're fatiguing because they are painful =D. I mean there are bright headphones, good ones too, and then there is Grado. Yep the DT 770, ATH-A900x, and AKG K550 are good closed backs for gaming. But if you game at home I'd always recommend an open back.

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