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TomZ
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Nov 18, 2014
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DinerenblancAesthetically, only the Duluth pack has a similar look. Aesthetics are subjective, though, so that's not really a point of comparison.
More importantly, none of the packs you listed have anywhere near the quality of material of this bag - they've got plastic hardware (Dakine, Burton), synthetic materials (Dakine, Burton), narrow straps (Dakine, Duluth), and only 15oz weight fabric (Duluth). In addition, only the Duluth is also made in the US.
Sometimes, it's worth paying more for quality.
Nov 18, 2014
Dinerenblanc
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Nov 18, 2014
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TomZBeing made in the US does not necessarily mean better quality. In fact, it's more of a novelty. Additionally, quality =/= durability. Cotton & leather is not as durable as many synthetics, and durability should be primary focus for travel packs. I also don't see your point about the straps. Archival only features one single strap running down the middle, hardly the most secure. Additionally, one of the options from Burton features a wool blend fabric with a genuine leather bottom. It's slightly more expensive, but still half the price of the Archival rutsack. You can opt for that if you simply want something made from quality fabrics. Finally, the carrying straps on the Archival aren't cushioned, nor are they designed that well. It features a single narrow strap running down the length of a wide but thin strap, meaning most of the stress from the weight of the backpack will be focused at the center, making it quite uncomfortable when carrying heavy loads.
Nov 18, 2014
TomZ
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Nov 21, 2014
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DinerenblancYou're right about the made in the US point. I'm not qualified to speak to the durability of the materials, but my usage is light enough that I doubt I would wear either material out. My comment about the straps was about the carry straps - the Duluth has 1" straps and the Dover has a review saying the straps were too thin. I disagree with your assessment of the Archival straps - the wide part is attached to the top of the pack, so it seems the load will be distributed fine.
I should explain my use case - I'm looking for a simple bag made of natural materials (because I like how they feel) with metal hardware (because I've had too many plastic bits break on me) that closes with a flap or roll top (for expansion, and because I don't like the aesthetic of zippers) and has external pocket(s) for a u-lock or a bottle. Also, I don't want a stiff bottom (so that the bag can be flattened if the load is slim). I'll be using it to commute by bike and sometimes train. So far, I've found this bag and various Frost River bags to fit my desires, and this one seems like the best option. I'm open to suggestions.
Nov 21, 2014
robert.harris
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Nov 22, 2014
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TomZTry Frost River - I posted a bit more about them above. Lots of great packs.
EDIT: Errr...ooops I'm obviously tired, didn't see you'd already found Frost River. They really are excellent bags. I love mine
Nov 22, 2014
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