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tmcalvin
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Jul 24, 2017
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The detail page says "The Gold Lion tube is not included on this drop."
Does this mean that specific tube not included or no tube is included? Sorry if the answer is in plain sight, didn't see it.
Thanks
rastus
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Jul 24, 2017
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tmcalvinYou will get the default EH tube with the unit, but not to worry it's a back-up, lots of great choices to make with the money you are saving, such as: http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/1-NOS-NIB-Amperex-6922-Rare-Bugle-Boy-Gold-Pin-Tube-England-/201790305179?hash=item2efba3b39b:g:7gYAAOSwLEtYg9XG , or start bidding; http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Amperex-PQ-6922-NOS-Gold-pin-/142449581160?hash=item212aa81c68:g:GZUAAOSwf~ZZblo8 It's a target rich enviorment: http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/JAN-Philips-NOS-Low-Noise-6922-6DJ8-ECC88-Matched-Sections-for-ARC-Marantz-/381910997040?hash=item58ebab5830:g:XaQAAOSwZQRYWUpo , http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/NOS-NIB-Philips-SQ-Special-Quality-E88CC-6922-Holland-Gold-Pin-NEW-/112494154292?hash=item1a312c9234:g:cn0AAOSw~y9ZJIYw , http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/NOS-NIB-Mullard-E88CC-6922-England-Gold-Pin-NEW-Vacuum-Tube-/112463396734?hash=item1a2f573f7e:g:jmkAAOSwMvtZVp2o or go tall, long life 7308, plastic cage thingy won't fit, just don't bash tubes...http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-AERO-7308-E188CC-6922-SIEMENS-MADE-VACUUM-TUBE-PLATINUM-SERIES-/222576960751?hash=item33d29ee4ef:g:620AAOSwg0pZY7H0
MattTheSasquatch
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Jul 25, 2017
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tmcalvinIt means that specific tube is not included, but you still get a tube. The tube it comes with is decent and great to get started with, but I couldn't keep it in there for a long time. So many great tubes out there for good money.
rastus
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Aug 31, 2017
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ElsidI was upgrading an un-used eBay 'NOS' T1 MK2 with caps, and wanted something even more unique, her Grandpa, still kicking, was an engineer at Sylvania involved with tubes, so I jumped to the USN NOS Syl tube along with HD598SE's for my niece to take to college as a gift. Yes, the MP3 -- cheap earbud generation, you should have seen her face when she listened to it "this is different,, wow!" and she went to turn the volume dial up, worth every cent & the time, another type of graduation was the intent. I listened to both tubes, with both the HD 598SE's and HD 700's, you know,, functional check - working in the caps- someone has to do the work stuff:) and found the Sylvania tube to be a brighter/tighter/precise and larger stage, which is what I was looking for,, less warmth was ok. I would just still say if you are going for a hybrid, roll a tube or two, why you bought it ;) The stuff on two caps in the pic, is Kapton tape, touching snipped leads area, got them all to fit in the case... also put some amber varnish gasket seal on the too-bright white LED under the tube to tone it down, almost just snipped, but knew my niece would like it. I now see that the MK3 under-tube-but-if you- actually-look-at-the-tube-it-is-getting-warm-indicator LED is itself now amber,, marketing weenies somewhat fixed their over-exuberance...
All that said, I would buy the MK3, it is an excellent hybrid unit, a bargain here at MD, just get a nice NOS tube, some nice cans, jriver or another DSD app and have some fun. You don't need to mess with the cap thing, it's the; I have to mess with it/tweeking crazy level thing,, unless you just have to...
All that said, I would buy the MK3, it is an excellent hybrid unit, a bargain here at MD, just get a nice NOS tube, some nice cans, jriver or another DSD app and have some fun. You don't need to mess with the cap thing, it's the; I have to mess with it/tweeking crazy level thing,, unless you just have to...
rastus
1391
Sep 1, 2017
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Elsid Yes,, used to be a purer engineer,, then joined the dark side... marketing/sales weenie stuff. I got tired of those idiots making bad decisions screwing up my life, there are still mistakes made; but they are smaller and I made them, then I fix them.
Funny thing here is that my whole career, '79' onward, is in making thin film vacuum physical vapor deposition equipment,PVD, used to make solid state devices for the most part. High vacuum plasma processing world, but the only tubes involved were for RF power 1-5Kw range, nowadays replaced by solid state. It was only a couple of years ago that my wife wanted music in the kitchen/extended area with wood stove [-x-] with limited space in built-in book shelves L-R, and a very limited budget... So I simply stole two rear Klipsch SB-1's from a surround and picked a little Grace Bluetooth silicon amp, down and dirty, she wanted to run this from her phone... Worked, but nope,, not really... but I still had the budget issue.
What I have been listening to: Klipsch KLF 20's damn they still kick-ass, driven by an old SS/iron Onkyo Integra A-9911 feeding from a Rega Planet CD player; a Technics SL-1200 turntable sits to the side next to the Nakamichi cassette tape deck. My old slice of heaven... The TV room has the new 5.1 movie, surround, thumper, stuff. Damn nice, but not the same. Here was the paradigm shift,, really more of crossing a rift for me; can I get the sound I want from a small, really small SE tube amp? Researched tubes, extensively, web and have a library that includes Max Knoll "Materials and Processes of Electron Devices" 1959 among other dusty volumes, plus real life living Dad/Engineer:) Think budget; I got an ebay used PA0901A EL84 -12AX7 for $81, it had the baby Japanese output Trannies and switching DC supply - I liked that. The guy had it to hold him over - preventing withdrawal symptoms- while his big tube amp was in repair. I could hear the sound I wanted, I then knew, with my ears that tubes were for real, a bit, it was there, the elusive "Tube Corpuscles"... yes, I got the tube bug... now I needed more efficacy in the all so beatifically important audio sound transducers, so upgraded to eBay used (budget again and limited space) Klipsch RB61 II's (wanted front ports - can pull out but wife thinks looked better pushed back in cabinets - I still pull out and aim:) then they get pushed back:( )... the sound got much better~ but not there... put in NOS black Plate Sylvania Baldwins (ebay), yes I know 'Baldwins' just a QC check,,, sound got better-not enough,, bass/lower end not presenting well enough... more research now into audio caps, shit --- which caps? This does get more complicated... Oil/Paper/Wax/Silver/Gold/Copper/Teflon... Silk?? WTF? rock-paper-scissors... Mundorf SGO's and Elna Silmic II's went in... Eureka! It sounds nice, really nice... I closed my eyes and had Adele sitting right there on my warm wood stove, singing to me, surrounded by instruments.
Tube note: Rolled a few,, Bendix 6094's, the perfect tube, and a CBS Hytron 12BZ7 this may be perfection... but I do need to try an E80CC $$ and a Bendix 6900 $$$... That is until i make my own better ones... 300B arena would be the broader market,, a paradigm tube is yet to come... Yes, still FLAC files from a PC or phones feeding a bluetooth/DAC. I have upgraded this as well from the Grace, yes more research and trying to get beyond the hype. Hype is a nuisance you have to push beyond in this crazy "wooden box of dirt with a wire stuck in it is an earth ground" world of top-notched-in-the-head audiophiles (if anything, I never made one and measured it, it's a dirt capacitor, but that would never market well lol:). Check your house ground for heck's sake, there is always noise, address it starting there, don't band-aide; I have one of these I can borrow from work, a luxury, but I digress: http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/products.htm?item=6416&ref=gbase&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9vDZwM-E1gIVnEoNCh3HLgq_EAQYASABEgIJjPD_BwE
Now you can get better clocks than what I got in my little Chinese bluetooth DAC, that did get an upgrade to a MUSES02. I'm Going to say it *** Bluetooth-Bluetooth-Bluetooth,, look we are still alive and reading this... Focus here on Bluetooth directly feeding, digital mind you, an outside DAC of your choice, mine ES9023 (budget), and if you want DSD -- the clock, TXCO or OXCO soon, becomes very important and you are then feeding it with USB, SPDIF or Toslink, I am talking a low budget mini-me, physically small, kitchen set-up. Just wait though, really, someone may pick up on me saying it here, in the box of dirt and unlimited budget world it will come; there are small atomic clocks: https://www.microsemi.com/products/timing-synchronization-systems/embedded-timing-solutions/components/sa-31m-sa-33m-amp-sa-35m
Revision added: I confess,, I would want a DAC with a sick Rubidium Atomic Clock in it, bad, the XPRO one of course;}) Streaming side note; I have found that "hi-fi" from Tidal to be the best so far, true, others such as Pandora/iHeart are modified for your listening experience... still have to try others. Musician friends use Spotify.
What I have been listening to: Klipsch KLF 20's damn they still kick-ass, driven by an old SS/iron Onkyo Integra A-9911 feeding from a Rega Planet CD player; a Technics SL-1200 turntable sits to the side next to the Nakamichi cassette tape deck. My old slice of heaven... The TV room has the new 5.1 movie, surround, thumper, stuff. Damn nice, but not the same. Here was the paradigm shift,, really more of crossing a rift for me; can I get the sound I want from a small, really small SE tube amp? Researched tubes, extensively, web and have a library that includes Max Knoll "Materials and Processes of Electron Devices" 1959 among other dusty volumes, plus real life living Dad/Engineer:) Think budget; I got an ebay used PA0901A EL84 -12AX7 for $81, it had the baby Japanese output Trannies and switching DC supply - I liked that. The guy had it to hold him over - preventing withdrawal symptoms- while his big tube amp was in repair. I could hear the sound I wanted, I then knew, with my ears that tubes were for real, a bit, it was there, the elusive "Tube Corpuscles"... yes, I got the tube bug... now I needed more efficacy in the all so beatifically important audio sound transducers, so upgraded to eBay used (budget again and limited space) Klipsch RB61 II's (wanted front ports - can pull out but wife thinks looked better pushed back in cabinets - I still pull out and aim:) then they get pushed back:( )... the sound got much better~ but not there... put in NOS black Plate Sylvania Baldwins (ebay), yes I know 'Baldwins' just a QC check,,, sound got better-not enough,, bass/lower end not presenting well enough... more research now into audio caps, shit --- which caps? This does get more complicated... Oil/Paper/Wax/Silver/Gold/Copper/Teflon... Silk?? WTF? rock-paper-scissors... Mundorf SGO's and Elna Silmic II's went in... Eureka! It sounds nice, really nice... I closed my eyes and had Adele sitting right there on my warm wood stove, singing to me, surrounded by instruments.
Tube note: Rolled a few,, Bendix 6094's, the perfect tube, and a CBS Hytron 12BZ7 this may be perfection... but I do need to try an E80CC $$ and a Bendix 6900 $$$... That is until i make my own better ones... 300B arena would be the broader market,, a paradigm tube is yet to come... Yes, still FLAC files from a PC or phones feeding a bluetooth/DAC. I have upgraded this as well from the Grace, yes more research and trying to get beyond the hype. Hype is a nuisance you have to push beyond in this crazy "wooden box of dirt with a wire stuck in it is an earth ground" world of top-notched-in-the-head audiophiles (if anything, I never made one and measured it, it's a dirt capacitor, but that would never market well lol:). Check your house ground for heck's sake, there is always noise, address it starting there, don't band-aide; I have one of these I can borrow from work, a luxury, but I digress: http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/products.htm?item=6416&ref=gbase&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9vDZwM-E1gIVnEoNCh3HLgq_EAQYASABEgIJjPD_BwE
Now you can get better clocks than what I got in my little Chinese bluetooth DAC, that did get an upgrade to a MUSES02. I'm Going to say it *** Bluetooth-Bluetooth-Bluetooth,, look we are still alive and reading this... Focus here on Bluetooth directly feeding, digital mind you, an outside DAC of your choice, mine ES9023 (budget), and if you want DSD -- the clock, TXCO or OXCO soon, becomes very important and you are then feeding it with USB, SPDIF or Toslink, I am talking a low budget mini-me, physically small, kitchen set-up. Just wait though, really, someone may pick up on me saying it here, in the box of dirt and unlimited budget world it will come; there are small atomic clocks: https://www.microsemi.com/products/timing-synchronization-systems/embedded-timing-solutions/components/sa-31m-sa-33m-amp-sa-35m
Revision added: I confess,, I would want a DAC with a sick Rubidium Atomic Clock in it, bad, the XPRO one of course;}) Streaming side note; I have found that "hi-fi" from Tidal to be the best so far, true, others such as Pandora/iHeart are modified for your listening experience... still have to try others. Musician friends use Spotify.
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