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Ball Trainmaster First Flight Automatic Watch
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Ball Trainmaster First Flight Automatic Watch
A community member
Dec 7, 2017
Hold on, this is only 21 jewels but they ask > $1000,- for it? So that's just paying for the looks and the name, not the quality then?
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jturzill
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Dec 7, 2017
21 is enough it’s an uncomplicated movement
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A community member
Dec 7, 2017
jturzillRight: "uncomplicated" but still > $1000,-
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datglasstho
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Dec 7, 2017
Jewel count doesn't equate to quality one way or the other.
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FullObeans
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Dec 7, 2017
Jewels dont equate to quality. The Ball Trainmaster first flight actually uses a modified ETA 2892.A2 movement which is an exceptionally good ETA movement. In fact the Omega coaxial movement used in the Seamaster is based on this movement and re-branded as the Omega 1120 for the Seamaster Professional 300.
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jturzill
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Dec 7, 2017
It doesn’t have a power reserve otherwise it would have 25 jewels, the watch when in stock from ball watch was 3600.
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dasman
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Dec 7, 2017
Jewel count means little relative to the quality of the movement. The jewels are relatively inexpensive and are used as bearings to reduce friction. They are only used where needed... It's not like we're counting diamonds in a necklace or engagement ring. As for this particular movement, it's an ETA that can be found in watches of all pricepoints... from Hamilton to Sinn to Tudor to Panerai and everything in between.
You've correctly stated that much of the cost IS related to the name and the looks, but also the quality of everything else in the watch. The Panerai 57 is a $6k+ watch, the Tudor Heritage Chrono Blue is a $3.5k watch, the Longines Lindbergh Hour Angle is a $2.5k watch, the Hamilton Intra-matic is a $700 watch and the Hamilton Jazzmaster is sub $500. What do they all have in common? The ETA 2892.A2 mvmt.
You have to get to much higher pricepoints before the movement becomes a significant cost component (ie., think the highly decorated in-house movements... typically found in watches 10k and above).
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MRich
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May 21, 2018
datglassthoWhy not? They reduce friction which increases life and provides a smoother running movement, like a full roller motor vs a none.
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datglasstho
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May 21, 2018
MRichIf a watch and its moving parts requires x amount of jewels for y number of parts, having x + 5 jewels for the same y of parts doesn't improve the watch.
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