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Kavik
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Apr 29, 2018
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(EDIT : see updated comments in the review section. Leaving this message here for posterity, but there are a couple updates over there)
Green Scimitar arrived today. Another well built bestech, with some praise and some complaints
Pros: -Finally there's a D shaped cutout in the opposite liner to catch the D shaped pivot pin and keep it straight! -This knife is super comfortable in the hand -the deep carry clip is a very nice change from the other Bestechs I have -I like the standoffs on this one, as opposed to the backspacer option. Either are fine, but I like the looks of this option on this knife -blade centers perfectly, action is smooth, practically drops shut after cleaning and re-oiling (with a caveat to be discussed in the complaints below) -shaving sharp out of the box, nice even grinds
Cons: -spine on this one is very sharp, especially at the points of the groove, gonna need to hit it with some sandpaper -sharp edges on the G10 too, towards the inside of the knife. Not a big deal, but you can feel it on your finger tip when you push the flipper. Might ease that a bit too -we're back to the plastic cages for the bearings again. I really think their metal caged ones move a bit smoother. -the liners on this one are made of some cheap ass metal, nothing like the thick, polished stainless on the Swordfish and the Thorn. Makes sense, saves money, since these liners are hidden on this one....but feels cheaper for the lock portion Interesting side note, not sure if it makes a difference one way or another, but with the thinner liners the bearings are actually recessed into the blade on this one, instead of into the liners like on the others (see disassembly pic below) -Detent is WEAK on this one :( Strong enough that the flipper works fine, but weak enough to easily shake open...which is a problem for carrying around here. Could this be related to the weaker steel liner/lockbar? Or is this purely a function of the detent ball/hole? Anyone know? I tried bending the lockbar out a bit, but didn't seem to make a difference.
Disassembled :
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Cheap liner plated steel :
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(sorry for the crappy cellphone pics, but it'll show what's inside)
All in all, it's a nice knife, and I'm glad to own it, but more than a little disappointed that I finally have a bestech with a nice deep carry clip, but I can't legally carry it with the "gravity assist" laws here :( P. S.
Is there any rhyme or reason behind which drops have options for reviews and such only have discussions still?
Apr 29, 2018
Kavik
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Apr 29, 2018
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KavikA couple more thoughts after fiddling with it a little more tonight:
-the machining on the G10 is a bit toooo good. Handle is a bit slippery -and same complaint I had with the Swordfish, no chamfering on the lanyard hole, just super sharp edges. Not a huge deal for me, I don't pin tails on my knives, but something to be aware of for those who do -the jimping on the lock release is a bit rough on the thumb. I'm going to end up knocking the edges of that too -and going to reiterate my complaint about the weak detent. As I mentioned the blade just about drops shut on its own, but anything more than the gentlest of shakes to help it a along and it ends up bouncing back open instead of snapping shut
Apr 29, 2018
Notsurewhyibother
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Jun 2, 2018
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KavikThanks for the detailed thoughts. The lock bar definitely plays a part in the strength of the detent along with the fit and tolerances on the ball and hole. If adjusting the tension on the bar didn't help, the detent ball might not be seating properly.
Jun 2, 2018
Kavik
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Jun 2, 2018
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NotsurewhyibotherYeah, i know that can play a part, but I haven't yet tried adjusting a detent hole, I need to look into what's involved in troubleshooting/correcting if that's what's causing it
Jun 2, 2018
Kavik
5531
Jun 5, 2018
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NotsurewhyibotherPlayed with it again today, still no luck. Adjusted the lockbar tension even further, over tightened the pivot pin... Didn't help. Made the action worse but didn't stop it from being able to shake open.
The detent ball appears to be fully seated, no light gets through around it, so it seems the losckbar is fully against the blade when shut, detent ball completely in the hole. To double check this I even removed the stop pin and reassembled, allowing some overtravel when closing the blade, in case it was stopping before the ball fully reached its spot. Same results. Definitely fully in the hole, could even feel a tiny bit of wiggle room in there if i pushed it past the natural stop, and still shakes open.
I'd say that's telling me the issue isn't with the placement or depth of the hole. And the lockbar tension can't be increased any further...... So, I'm at a loss 😞
Jun 5, 2018
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