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Tashi Bharucha Rowdy HiTech CPM-154 Frame Lock

Tashi Bharucha Rowdy HiTech CPM-154 Frame Lock

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Nearly this entire feed of comments reinforced the intuition I had and have that MOST Massdrop customers and members are budget knife guys that usually buy Benchmade, Spyderco, and that price range around $75-$150 and have never experienced an actual great framelock flipper on bearings with an awesome designer and some of the best quality control, fit, and finish out there until they spent $90-$125 on their gent or falcon and thought it was the cat's meow especially for the same price they bought their Benchmade bugout lmao. Let me let u in on a secret, Ferrum Forge is not Tashi Bharucha, WE is not Gerry McGinnis, and this knife was not cut out and totally made on a cnc by a recent community college graduate out of Yiangianling China and it wasn't inspected by his grandmother that got him the damn job! Do some research people! Figure out the market, knife values, and what's a good or great deal. Yeah I love the Ferrum Forge collabs as well, yeah they're a great value, but if you can afford it and are willing to take a chance and step up to the next tier, then you're gonna realize this is a better freaking value and offering than any of the Ferrum Forge x Massdrop collabs can or will ever be. This is like getting a damn Crux for $75 not $125. Gerry McGinnis had his hands all over your new knife, and little Chingwao's grandmammy didn't inspect it either. I love what Massdrop is doing for the knife community and what they're making available to us but some of us need to realize that sticker shock can still be a great value if you have and are willing to spend the money. And if you took the chance and did buy the knife, you probably just realized that u didn't only step up to the next tier of knives, you took two steps at the price of one bc it was an awesome f***** deal and poor Mrs. Chingwao wasn't accidentally pricking her fingers with the tip of your new knife. No offense either, love my awesome Chinese knives,, #qualityisnotgeography. Just had to let a little rant out to wake some people up on this thing. Ik it's too late, but maybe next time they'll buy a new Corvette for $40,000 and realize they saved 40% if they had the money to do so
I hope and pray that one of you (well off) knife lovers buys me one of these. I’ll even let you in on a new word I invented. I am not choicy, any color or design would suit me. There I go daydreaming again. I wish it would quit raining so I could get out of this truck and go to work!
Anyone have a weight on this bad boy?
TrailBlazer
I am sure that I would have a weight if I had purchased one. I'm still weighting for one that's in transit.
@DougFLA123 you get in on this?
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Well....tracking ended at the border and it was supposed to be in on Tuesday but nothing yet... Annoying, but I'll wait another week before contacting border services. I just want a new knife, is that so much to ask??
Bknguyen
What a pain in the ass that must be for you guys. I can’t stand waiting three days for a knife to arrive. If more time were tacked on to a knife delivery I’d go crazy.
Too rich for my blood. Kershaw Launch series uses CPM154; <$100. My Hogue EX -A05 was $160. All that aside, I think the logo is garish. The knife itself is good looking.
14themoney
Lol blade steel does have some influence on the price of a knife but it's really not the end all be all of what it's going to cost. Design, machining quality, fit and finish, overall quality control, other materials, and the overall feel probably all count for much more. You can find knives under $100 with m390 or s35vn or just about any other blade steel out there and when you get it in hand you may think, man what a POS...yes there's definitely knives in every price range that most definitely suck. But when you pick up a quality knife, feel it, open it, close it, feel the smoothness, see the machining quality, the time it took to make the piece, then you'll most definitely know it. There's knives with the best blade steels out there that are "budget" knives that are total junk, and then there's knives like Jason Stout makes with d2 steel that regularly go for $1500-$4000 and will continue to hold and bring that value when taken care of. Not to mention in the end, cpm154 is still one of the best blade steels on the market and will most definitely do most anything u want it to do. Don't let the new hotness in blade steel sway your opinion of quality. Somewhere down the line, m390 is gonna be the new 8cr13mov, may be a long way off but it's gonna happen eventually
Kellen187
I have a Leek in this steel. (Got is here.) I really like it. If M390 ever falls to occupy a place like 8Cr, what in the world are they going to use to process the Unobtainium? There is something out now, REX 121 that sits around 70. So I think we would be looking at something around 75-80. From what little I've read, knife makers shy away from stuff this hard because of production costs. I'd like to know what you think. Thanx.
Love this blade cpm154 is probably my favorite steel with titanium handles and a great design I’d definitely snap one up for $150 less $200 seems like my price point especially when there’s so many great knives even ones just as good for in the $200 range and I refuse to spend more than $300 on almost any knife unless it’s a sick custom that was worth alout more but being sold for fast cash
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One thing about we compulsive knife buyers, we're walking compendiums...no, that would be "compendia", wouldn't it? Yes: it's a third declension, gender neuter noun--ha! and my parents said I was wasting my time and their money taking Latin in college. Anyway, people who like knives know the prices very well of the ones they're interested in, so you can neither expect them to pay when something is over-priced, nor expect merchandise to stay in stock when it's even just a bit cheaper than usual, if it's in demand. I see this phenomenon when I sell a knife privately on our local classifieds website, and I've been esp fascinated observing the dynamic play out with some Microtech OTFs for sale at a number of shops. Instead of the usual all aluminum bodies, these Ultratechs' bodies are half G10. They call it an "upgrade" because the G10 is a bit lighter and theoretically gives more grip, but obviously G10 isnt as sturdy, and my first thought when I saw them was "why would I want any OTF with a weakened construction?" My second thought was, "oh hell no, I'm never buying one of these", because they are priced at about $350, or $75 more than an otherwise identical Ultratech w/o the G10. And so they sit, as they have sat, unsold for a year in some places. People didn't even buy them when every other Microtech OTF was sold out--they just feel too over-priced. Microtech doesn't ever reduce prices though, so I'm interested to see how this Mexican stand-off ends up. I double-checked my email, just to make sure I wasn't misremembering, and I was not--got an email from Steel Addiction in late October specifically noting a few Rowdies for $350. I wonder if that was a particularly plain batch, or if SA just figured they might as well kick the price up a bit to be in line with other sellers?
Hatuletoh
I do think there was a base-line price increase on the model last year, but even back in 2017 (when I first added the model to my list to buy), the one I bookmarked initially was over $450. Possibly they got ahold of a batch from an earlier production run at a bulk price? Hard to tell sometimes when there is that kind of price fluctuation. I don't know what happened otherwise, because I didn't see any obvious differences from the models we have here. Man, I definitely love my Ultratech, but I certainly wouldn't pay $350 bucks for a half G-10 model when I got my standard one for like $265 last year. Wish I'd taken Latin in school by the way. I took everything else it seems like, and Latin would probably have been both more fun and more useful than several of the other classes I ended up doing.
No love for the lefties?
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I just might it’s never good to make deals with the devil and give his minions weapons designed especially for them 😈
darigo1981
Don’t forget Kizer as well 🤡
HRc would be nice to know,knife weight is also useful.come on mass drop step up your game.
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Some people will just never understand the value that a well known, well respected, highly sought after knife designer/maker brings to a production/mid tech knife especially when it's an awesome design. And I'm only talking about Tashi on that. Not to mention, this knife is called the Hi Tech bc one of the most famous knife makers ever, Gerry McGinnis, put more time into hand work on these knives than possibily any other mid tech ever made. I've not owned one but I've definitely wanted to own one and have looked into buying one multiple times and also watched or read about every review I could on this particular knife. The last one I considered buying in good/great condition, not NIB like we all want on secondary market, was priced at $450-$500. The price on this particular knife, is most definitely relatable to the price that Massdrop offers on their regular Ferrum Forge offerings (and I love those as well), but this knife at this price was most definitely a fucking steal!
Kellen187
Yes I can see that for sure. Again I've only been collecting knives for a few years and most of them were in the $100-$300 price range so the Rowdy was one of my very first $300-$500 knives. I loved most everything about the knife. I'd still own it today but for having medium to small hands. I'd love to hear he's going to do a mini now that would be a sweet blade. 👊😎
Designed in France, by a Japanese designer, and manufactured in the United States. Knives bring us all closer together.
fhood
Japanese- are you sure? Tashi looks Zorastrian (of Iranian extraction) to me
RajS
He's not Japanese. There is nothing about his name that looks remotely Japanese. Nothing about his looks either.
I have 2 Prism from Massdrop / Bharucha. And i am really happy with. Personly, the price for this model is too much for me. I meen, comparing with the Prism... My opinion....
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CrisTheGreat
I have both, but this one was definitely worth the additional cost for me. It's absolutely equal to the best knife I own, including one that cost quite a bit more and a couple of others in the same range. Also, these are midtechs rather than pure production knives. McGinnis and his father actually do everything except the blade grinding in house. Gerry has said that tunes each one himself. Holding the Prism in hand, it's difficult to believe that anything could be that much better, but the extra individual attention really does show in the details. I'm tempted to get another actually, but I absolutely can't afford it right now.
CrisTheGreat
The prism was a production knife made by a production factory, Reate, that most definitely does make the highest quality and best value production knives in the world. The prism is an awesome knife, the actual reate baby machine at $70 is even better and most definitely worth that extra money. This however is not a production knife at all. This is made by Gerry McGinnis himself. Not totally, not a custom, it's a "Hi Tech." Not a mid tech but same principle. It's called a Hi Tech bc Gerry McGinnis, who spends probably 90% of his time making custom knives, took the time to put more hand work and more of his actual time into these knives than any other mid tech possibly ever made....this knife is a damn steal at the price on the drop, period.
Friendly Northern neighbour here, I'm glad MD has our backs with regards to the CBSA, as I missed the last one.... Now bring this drop back!
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That's so true. And unfortunate. I'm glad there's Massdrop. Giving us wide access to knives we wouldn't and shipments not getting tagged by CBSA
Bknguyen
Yes your right. Also I feel the fact Massdrop has your back if something goes wrong at the border is worth alot to us Canadiens.
Any chance this comes back?
Holy S#!t Bat Man I made it with only 12 minutes to spare lol. 😅Wow this is the nicest knife I've ever bought I can't wait to get it in my hands 😆
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Dang that's unfortunate, T! I have the Bestech Warwolf and it's supposed to be the same size and I like it so here's hoping this one will have a similar feel.
Bknguyen
Actually I didn't get too hurt in the long run. After all the math was done it cost me around $35 and some of my time to get to experience The Rowdy and now I want to get a smaller model made by Gerry Mcginnis probably something from his proline series. Actually it would have to be something from his proline series because I could never afford the price of his customs lol.😲
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Any way to keep this drop open a few more days?? You've only sold 5 and I would be able to join after I get paid!!! Timing is so hard to catch on MD!!!
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Are you still selling your rowdy?which one did you get?
Gshock
Sorry Gshock I sold it yesterday.
Tashi is a Incredible designer has over 40 collaborations with some of the Top Tier Custom Makers , Lee Williams , Tom Mayo , Peter Carey , Jim Burke . Way to many to list , and the Rowdy is made in the USA.
Steep price for the materials and the lackluster design. It's yet another bearing driven titanium framelock. I guarantee the price comes from designer name recognition and US manufacturing. My Bestech Tercel is comparable materials for 1/3rd the price.
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Yeah, it's not a great name, but the product is quality.
Or Edsel?
I'm very much in the market for a high end (150-250$) large folder, and I've really done a lot of searching and has a pretty good idea what you can get for that kind of money. Based on specs and appearance i would say this knife is a terrible terrible value. CPM-154 is toward the bottom of the high end steals and at this prices you should get something considered top tier.
Im sure their priced this way because their produced on such a small scale, so if that strikes your fancy go right ahead. but as far as what you get in your hand for $$$ paid i think this might be one of the worst knife drops i can remember.
Edit: OK, Im being overly critical. what you get with the quality of execution and craftsmanship from McGinnis Knives seams to be truly exceptional. I certainly don't think 154 is a bad steel, its just at the price i would expect some other steel purely as a selling feature.
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boortmiser
I'm really not sure where you're looking or what your overall knife experience is. CPM-154 is a fantastic steel. There's a lot more to steel than simple edge retention. This steel is favored by many top-tier makers because of the incredible finish that can be obtained. Want a mirror finish? Don't be looking to M390 for that. Yet I see people complaining about this all the time, and mentioned it on the first drop - saying people were going to grip. Case in point.
McGinnis and Bharucha are famous for a reason. This knife is a bargain at the price it's offered at here, I would buy it again in a heartbeat. Is the original list price (over $600) too high? Probably, yes. Especially if exotic materials, intricate machining and milled clips are of greatest value to you. But for the price of a Reate or ZT, this is a crazy bargain. This is one of the smoothest knives I've handled, period. Hydraulic. The blade grind is fantastic, a nice, high flat grind. What I like most about this knife is it's a user. This probably gets more pocket time than any other knife I have. In fact, I'm sending mine off to a YouTube reviewer who I know will love it, and just saw on IG this is being dropped again. I will be telling lots of people who missed it the last time.
The image attached is my family portrait. Missing are a Jason Guthrie Ranger and Ferrum Forge Gavko Spinner, returning from FF for repairs after 3 months. And a few Kizers. I would pick this knife over most everything here and rate it in the top 10. Not the most beautiful, not the most exotic, and certainly nowhere near being the most expensive. But the ergonomics, action and handling are second to none. To say this is one of the worst knife drops you can remember is just painful. There's been a few drops here where the value is questionable, maybe even overpriced.
I can guarantee most everyone who participated in the last drop is glad they did. As with any hand built knife there's going to be an occasional issue pop up, but Gerry will make good on it.





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Clutch_Cargo
Were you in a helicopter when you took the picture of all those knives? : )
Is that center hole a female port for your fidget spinner?
$375 is a huge ripoff for the properties of this steel. You can get equal/better for half the price with titanium handle.
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Drop points aren't my thing so much, if it was a different play shape it might be. Also it is so hard to pick a favorite.
JubilantBear
I’m still on the fence with the Rowdy. Only two days to make up my mind.
I just got one the other week and the action is among the best I have ever experienced. But the lack of steel lockbar insert and over travel stop make me scared to use this knife all the time.
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I regret my harsh tone with you. Challenging discourse is part of why this forum is so interesting. I apologize for my words and appreciated your apology to Unwisefool. I also concede the point that it is silly to reject advances in safety and technology. Not being willing to change points-of-view based on facts is a sure sign I’m at risk of becoming the crusty old guy I never respected or wanted to be. We are all Brothers (or Sisters) in our knife enthusiasm. I hope your week turns around, Vextos. Cheers, all!
Axeguy
I have a love/hate relationship with the Grumpy old man Group. ((I have met the chronological qualifications.
Pics look great! I'd love for this drop to come back....
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The action on the knife is as good as it gets, everything you'd expect from a McGinnis built knife. Nice, high flat grind, sharp, great steel and ergos that beg to be used. I'd been wanting this knife for a while, but it never made it to the top of the list until this great price made it impossible to ignore. I hope to see more like this on Massdrop - this is basically a custom with a mid-tech label. Unlike some of my customs, this one is going to get a lot of pocket time and use!
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Mine arrived yesterday. Nice knife, very smooth, but I am rather unhappy that it came with scratches on BOTH sides.
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Great drop! I am glad I jumped on Style 3 as that sold out with a quickness.
TheHsza
The best one! Well, at least the lightest.
Good news everyone! We've lowered the final drop price to $354.99 from $374.99. Thanks to everyone for the comments, reviews, and photos, we appreciate all the feedback and continued support.
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Hey Mark, Do you think this Tashi Bharucha Rowdy HiTech (CPM-154) Frame Lock knife will drop again? Thanks
kyleemj
Hi @kyleemj Do you think they’ll ever drop this knife again? The Tashi Bharucha Rowdy HiTech.
Interesting designer but a 3-inch model would be more useful -- and legal in more places.
Good going Massdrop for getting a Tashi Bharucha knife! He's an amazing designer who does a lot of collaborations- perhaps some of his Reate knives (like Future and the soon to be released Starboy) could make their way on here?
JBVV
The Future is discontinued, but the Starboy could be good and probably more useful. The Future is a pocketful to say the least.