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Black Diamond Firstlight 2P Tent
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Black Diamond Firstlight 2P Tent
Beachlil
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May 3, 2016
What good is the tent w/o the vestibule? Kind of pricy when you add that on. Why not include it in the drop?? Don't see the value here.
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Nfrisch
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May 3, 2016
BeachlilPlenty of good. This is a mountaineering tent that is typically not used with a vestibule. If you don't understand the intended use of this tent, then it isn't for you.
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ISleepOutside
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May 3, 2016
Nfrischoooo burnt
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SamPittman
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May 3, 2016
NfrischI must infer that mountaineers like it cozy, in their tents.
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Nfrisch
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May 3, 2016
SamPittmanInfer what you want. This style of tent rarely comes with an included vestibule because most people in the market for this tent would not want it. The drop is a great value: 20% below many online prices. If you need this type of tent, you already know what it is and understand why the vestibule is not included. The complaining by uninformed people on this site has gotten out of control.
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SamPittman
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May 3, 2016
Nfrisch"Infer what you want. " Yes, I will.
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Beachlil
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May 3, 2016
NfrischSorry, was not complaining, I like the tent, I'm looking for something new w/more room. I like a vestibule. Maybe thicker skin is needed by others. I took the original rebuff w/humility. Thank you for the schooling, ehem, gentlemen.
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DannyMilks
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May 3, 2016
BeachlilHere's a classic photo of the Firstlight in use (with the older yellow Epic fabric):
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DannyMilks
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May 3, 2016
BeachlilOr this:
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Beachlil
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May 3, 2016
DannyMilksIt's better to be educated than ridiculed, thank you.
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Alusna
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May 3, 2016
BeachlilConcur. I'm looking for a light, winter tent that will also protect my pack. Although pricier, I'm thinking a shires scarp1.
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Nfrisch
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May 3, 2016
BeachlilAsking a question about something you don't understand is great, but what i was responding to was the conclusion you seemed to draw based on your lack of understanding: that this drop was of no value. Perhaps I misunderstood you or misinterpreted your tone – and I apologize for that.
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Nfrisch
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May 3, 2016
AlusnaThe Scarp 1 is a great 4 season shelter. It is important to realize, however, that according to Shires, it is not designed for alpine environments such as those pictured in the photos posted by Danny.
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SamPittman
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May 4, 2016
DannyMilksIn that picture, do you think he is using the tent as a 1-man? Is the tent commonly used as a 1-man?
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nswenson
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May 4, 2016
DannyMilksYikes!
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DannyMilks
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May 4, 2016
SamPittmanIn both pictures, the tent is being used as a 2-man shelter. It's a tight fit, but most mountaineering tents are. "Ground" space is limited, and so it's preferable to have a smaller footprint, whereas for camping you'd rather have more space to stretch out. Weight is kept to a minimum, and all of your gear is kept in the tent or attached outside. There is no room for comfort in mountaineering :)
I've slept in this tent and it's Bibler predecessor, the Eldorado, several times on Mt. Shasta. Even when space wasn't limited, it still wasn't a big deal to squeeze two people in there. It is of course more comfortable as a one-person tent!
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Gnuj
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May 5, 2016
DannyMilksMine isn't the same but it's similar to BlackDiamond firstlight-2p. I have the Bibler eldorado, I purchased from my coworker. She took the Bibler eldorado to Himalaya mountains on her first trek. She sold it to me because she said it was necessary that she needed a bigger tent with breathing area space, room for cooking, and storage. However, she told me the tent was pleasant inside because it withstood Himalayan winds.
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DannyMilks
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May 6, 2016
GnujThanks @Gnuj . When did you do the JMT, and in which direction did you hike?
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Gnuj
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May 6, 2016
DannyMilksHi @DannyMilks, my friend and I began our journey at Bishop and ended at Whitney. It was 4 or 3 years ago.
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Liamcraig
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Apr 24, 2017
BeachlilYour not worried about privacy after 11k feet or higher. Although it is nice to have a vestibule for your gear and boots, you can save a lot of weight with this tent and use a pack cover to save your gear. As someone said in an earlier comment, it's about staying alive, climbing the mountain as light as possible, and making the summit hopefully.
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