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samjin
16
Jun 10, 2017
Lyra II or X Noble Audio X? What do you all think?? Bang for your buck?!?!
CamperIV
358
Jun 11, 2017
samjinFLC8S if you care about your money.
Clifak
47
Jun 11, 2017
samjinI haven't heard the Lyra but I have CA Jupiters and Noble X. I paid $550 for the Jupiters b-stock and I think they're worth double the Noble X but that's just my opinion. Actually, if the scale of audio gear wasn't so out of control, I'd say the Noble X are worth more like $150 and the Jupiters maybe $400. Campfire Audio did a great job and I've read most of their other models are also impressive for each of their signatures. I plan to get in on this drop and if I don't sell my Noble X I'll probably give them to my GF.
Ziadax
77
Jun 11, 2017
samjinFLC8S is great because you can tune the sound to your liking. Its possibly the best mid-fi IEMs out there.
Noble X is overpriced and overrated. It sounds like a $130-160 IEM at most and you're mostly still paying for the Noble branding. (All noble IEMs are garbage except for the K10/K10E/Katana and even those are overpriced)
Jupiter is very good, their B-Stocks IMO are among the best quad driver BA IEMs you can get at that price ($500-550). Lyra is among the best dynamic driver IEMs at the $500 along with the JVC wood series and the Sony 7550/Ex1000. I find them comparable to Sennheiser's IE800 as well as DITA's Answer and even exceed them in certain aspects.
With both Noble and Campfire you're going to be paying a premium for the branding and in Campfire's case, the outstanding build quality. Just like I think Jupiter isn't worth its original MSRP of $1300 (first release) ->$800 (current) and the Lyra II isn't worth $700, with discounts and depending on your music tastes I think the Lyra II is worthy at $500.
samjin
16
Jun 11, 2017
Ziadaxthank you for your thoughtful input. thank you for your time!
samjin
16
Jun 11, 2017
Clifakthank you for the fast reply!
Ziadax
77
Jun 11, 2017
samjinHey, no problems man. $500 is a lot of money (at least to me) to drop on a headphone/IEM that you most likely never heard before and so its more like a leap of faith to hope you like them when they arrive. The more impressions and opinions you can get in comparison to what you already would give a better idea of whether you want to hop on the campfire train.
kevinh
75
Jun 11, 2017
ZiadaxHow would you rate the lyra II's against the jupiters? I got sucked into the jupiter b-stock as well but just curious what you think as someone that has both
Ziadax
77
Jun 11, 2017
kevinhJupiter is 'technically' better in terms of detail, sepration, soundstaging, etc and does things that balanced armatures generally do better than dynamics. Jupiter has better extended highs IMO, but I think Lyras handle bass and mids better than the Jupiter, but I prefer dynamic driver sound in general so some people may feel otherwise.
Lyra has a fuller sound and in comparison the bass and mids sound thick compared to the Jupiters' quick and precise response. I personally felt the upper mid dip on the Jupiters threw off the timbre and tonal accuracy a bit which doesn't really happen on the Lyras. Soundstage on Lyra is more closed in, similar to a jazz club type setting, yet instrument placement is spot on. Neither have sibilance/harshness for me but depending on your fit and tips that may change.
I'd say overall the Lyra is a good complement to the Jupiter/Andromedas since their approach to sound is a bit different yet very enjoyable for listening. They're more on the musical side whereas Jupiter is more on the analytical side, but I'd say that detail retrieval on the Lyras are still very good. If the price were $700 (MSRP) vs the $800 current MSRP of Jupiter I'd rather spend the extra 100 on the Jupiter; but for $500 I think the Lyra is worth a try depending on your music tastes. B-stock jupiters at $550 are practically a steal IMO but bassheads probably won't like them
raymondehayes1
80
Jun 12, 2017
samjinI'm sorry I totally disagree with Ziadax.'s I have both the Noble X and the Lyra II.I really like the Lyra II it has a really nice warm sound. However I think the Noble X is just as good if not better. These are actually as good as most 500 dollars in ear headphones you are going to find. I'm sorry I also disagree that the FLC8 is just as good. I had them.(They broke on me) first of all the tuning instruments are small and easy to lose. But even with the tuning to your perfection is still doesn't sound as good as the Noble X. Like I said I really like the Lyra II it probably is worth more 500 then 700 retail so I think you're getting it for the right price. However the Noble X punches way way above its price point. Everything sounds great with this in ear the bass sounds great. The soundstage is large. It has a nice warm sound but not too warm. So it enhances the music but doesn't overshadow it. The Lyra II on the other hand is very warm and sometimes colors the music a little bit more than I might like. However I really enjoy the Lyra II headphone I'm sure if you get it you'll really like it but I think the Noble X is just as good or better I'm happy to have both.
samjin
16
Jun 12, 2017
raymondehayes1So nice to hear your other side of opinion. Looks like i have to find out myself :) but also nice to know noble X is worth the money as most of the user agreed :)
Ziadax
77
Jun 12, 2017
raymondehayes1To each his own I guess.
I buy BA based sets mostly for analytical listening, whereas with dynamic drivers I don't care as much about resolution but more for dynamics and a colored/fun signature. With the Noble X I felt that it lacked the technical abilities that I found in similarly priced sets, especially features that are generally unique to BA such as speed and separation. For example, I felt that the ATH-LS200 which costed about the same as the X offered better treble extension and control and an overall more detailed sound, and even the Pinnacle P1 which is a dynamic set offered levels of performance very close if not equal to the X for $50 less. The mids and fit of the Noble X were the only two things I liked about it.
But hey, even if I didn't like it for $250, that shouldn't stop you from buying or trying it out. The $130-$160 rating I gave them is what I would personally pay for them based on my experience with that set. I didn't like the IE800 but that's my opinion and doesn't make it a universal fact that they're bad.
_zegna
94
Jul 2, 2017
CamperIVfab bang for buck to be sure...would love to compare these to the lyra 2, even the andromeda
CamperIV
358
Jul 2, 2017
_zegnaIndeed, I'm looking forward to the FLC Celeste very much, anyway I'm about to go and audition the CA Andromedas soon, hopefully they should be a direct upgrade to the FLC8S and relatively "worth" the money, even tho it's rather overpriced IMO no matter how good the IEMs are. I can let you know once I hear them.
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