Campfire Audio Lyra II IEM Discussions | Drop

Campfire Audio Lyra II IEM

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Jun 23, 2018

Why are these better than balanced Armature models? I am not familiar with this Tech in an in ear monitor

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ItsAeolus

Jun 23, 2018

WILLxLOVESupposedly it’s just a generally more focused sound since it’s using one driver and is very good with low end frequency. Bass and sub bass and all that jazz so if you’re looking for crystal clear high notes this isn’t for you. Not that these are poor preformers there, just not what they are focusing on here

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Jun 23, 2018

ItsAeolusI’ve got different ear and headphones for different things so I’m down for whatever, but when I see for 4 armature models for 229 and such I just can’t see why this is the price that it is

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ItsAeolus

Jun 23, 2018

WILLxLOVEI get what you’re saying but a lot of tuning goes into these kind of things and you know not all the armature ones sound the same either and more isn’t always better. But I’d look into them a little more if I were you, because I think this drop is a steal if you’re looking for a high quality iem as well as a rugged daily pair for outdoor use. Which is why I’m picking these up. But yeah I’m not saying these are for sure going to be better than those 4 armature pairs of IEMs but I have a hard time imagining they can’t compete with them, campfire audio is pretty good at what they do.

Dyvan

Jun 23, 2018

WILLxLOVEBecause more armature does not equate quality. Audition them if you can.

ccm220

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Jun 23, 2018

WILLxLOVETuning is everything. Don't fall into the driver count trap. You can get 12 BA IEMs for ~400 in China and I can find you single BA IEMs for a similar price range that perform better.
Plus this is a dynamic driver. The driver count is not directly comparable to BAs, usually there's only 1 and with proper tuning and design like Campfire has, they will sound amazing.
As for if they are actually better than BA IEMs, if we assume perfectly neutral tuning, DD and BAs have different strengths and weaknesses, it'll come down to preference and which models you're actually comparing it to. Directly comparing 2 driver technologies doesn't really give you much insight on real world performance.

Jun 23, 2018

WILLxLOVETonality. Dynamic driver's sound much more natural than BA driver's do. In effect, they sound more akin to a loudspeaker and tend to boast better bass. They also have a more natural note decay so depending on the music you're listening to (woodwinds, paino, cello, etc.) it would sound a lot like it would at a live performance. I have many multi BA setups and while I enjoy them they don't sound as natural as my DD iems. As others have said, driver count and tuning are paramount. If the crossovers aren't tuned properly, it doesn't matter how many driver's there are the earphones are going to sound like poo.
Not to mention, DD iems tend to scale better with more powerful amps due to their impedance, sensitivity and lack of crossovers.
Really, it's all a matter of preference. There isn't any one that's "better." I own both depending on my mood and genre choice for the day.

Jun 23, 2018

ccm220Hence my questions, so thank everyone for their responses. This is too rich for me however for something that I “may “ like better. The nuforce 4 BAs per ear just seem like a better deal, at lease since these are 100-200$ more, at 399$. Thanks all. Still interested to hear what people think when they get them that’s for sure.

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McCol

Jun 23, 2018

jaydunndidditCan’t disagree with your thoughts on the differences however sometimes I find BA’s produce a more detailed and accurate sound from my music. I have a mixture of iem’s that use both and like you like to swap between models. what I am finding recently though is that a good hybrid can give the best of both worlds. My AKG N5005 are probably the best hybrid I’ve heard, lovely punchy dynamic driver handling the bass but the rest of the spectrum is handled by the BA drivers, it’s the first hybrid I’ve heard that seems to have it just right

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Jun 25, 2018

WILLxLOVEIt should be mentioned that the Quad BA HEM8 is actually $330. There is an upcharge for it over the HEM6. So, the difference between it and the Lyra II is $70.
Personally, for me, I already own a quad BA that is similar to the HEM8 but better overall (Shure SE846). And I'm sure others are in that same boat. It is a great deal if you don't already own something similar but it has a somewhat common sound signature IMO. For myself and probably others, this is a good DD IEM at this price point which is kind of a pain for that driver type. They tend to be budget minded or incredibly expensive TOTL. Finding a good mid-fi option like this is thoroughly welcomed from the likes of Campfire Audio.

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Jun 25, 2018

jaydunndidditThey HEM8 was 279.99 once people joined the drop. But in any case I hear what you’re saying. Appreciate the insight.

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Jun 25, 2018

WILLxLOVEYou're right. Added to cart and didn't realize the discount was so great even after others joining. That's a very good price for this IEM. Used pairs don't even go for this price.

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Jun 25, 2018

jaydunndidditthats what I was thinking... but I had a less than positive experience from the EDC3 so I passed on it.

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Jun 25, 2018

WILLxLOVEFrom experience, the EDC3 are pretty different than the "normal" lineup. I enjoyed the HEM2 and HEM8 when I sampled them as they fit my preferred signature perfectly: slightly warm, somewhat syrupy, no sibilance, pretty good bass response and a nice midrange. Staging is somewhat more moderate but imaging and separation was good. Honestly, these are quite different than the EDC3 and at this price I'd personally say it's a no-brainer if you don't already own something equivalent. As long as you're not a treble-head, you would be very satisfied with these.

Jun 25, 2018

jaydunndiddit I think you just talked me into them

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Jun 25, 2018

WILLxLOVEI definitely think they're more than worth it at this price. And worst comes to worse, if you had to sell them, you could price them at what you bought them for and not be out a dime. You may be able to sell them for a bit more as I normally see them go for $325 used so either way I think they're a very safe bet. As long as you're not listening to classical or expecting something analytical I think you'd dig them.

Jun 26, 2018

jaydunndidditThanks for the advice, sincerely :)

syke

Jul 12, 2018

WILLxLOVEare they? I for one definitely think it's the other way round. Sure bass would sound better on dynamic, but bass isn't everything. hybrids are supposed to be the best of both worlds, but I have really yet to find one that impresses me.

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Jul 12, 2018

sykeI agree. I haven't met a single hybrid IEM that bests a pure dynamic or BA IEM. All hybrids have a bizarre midrange to me as well other odd spikes comparatively. I don't think manufacturer's have really nailed down the crossovers for hybrids, honestly. Hell, even more more manufacturer's are going to single-BA IEMs these days and foregoing crossovers completely since the tech in that regard has moved forward.

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Athtel

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Aug 28, 2018

sykeHave you heard the CA Orion’s?

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