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SUPERdylan
42
Jun 22, 2017
Now that the drop is nearing the final countdown I thought I'd treat you to some of my thoughts.
If you're getting the blank alphas for a standard layout, you need three (3) kits, not two (2). I didn't notice that for a long time.
I can't believe the ErgoDox professional kit is more popular than the ErgoDox blank. I would think that the customization going on with that layout would make the pro kit almost useless. Step up your game, Internet. Also I would like to hit that last drop point for purely selfish reasons.
I wish the arrow kit had a homing right arrow R3 key. Would be useful on the ErgoDox in a gamepad situation. I don't think it makes sense to use WASD over ESDF on the ErgoDox.
Can someone explain the problem people have with getting in the drop right away when using PayPal? I use PayPal, and it makes an authorization charge but no money is moved from my bank account until the drop ends. I don't keep a PayPal balance either. I noticed complaints around this in regard to the warning kit price change and in some other cases (waiting on paycheck, etc.) as well.
edhwanger
4
Jun 22, 2017
SUPERdylandont u just need (1) standard + alphas (2) no standard + numkeys to get a 104 key?
SUPERdylan
42
Jun 22, 2017
edhwangerI'm talking about using blank alphas. You need 12-13 R1, 12 R2, 11 R3, and 10 R4. The blank alpha kit has five of each row in it not counting the homing key.
I should have said you need three blank alpha kits to be more precise. I was excluding the modifier and numpad kits in my counts.
Dzeimsas
25
Jun 22, 2017
SUPERdylanDylan! Regarding PayPal...
I believe the initial authorization is to verify that your stored bank account / debit card is still valid. If you don't have a registered debit card, we all know you would need to manually transfer funds into your PP wallet and have them available. The Debit* network transaction is a lot more convenient... the transaction is a more "real-time" transaction as opposed to the ACH** transaction that would occur through your bank / bank account... (This is more of a general statement regarding - a ton of Debit Networks exist and I'm not sure which one that PP leverages or they may even have their own proprietary Debit network)
When you join a "Drop" it will display a message letting you know when to expect the charge / transaction to occur. From personal experience my account is charged soon after the drop ends or the following day (I am using the PP debit card payment method). The prices do fluctuate based on the number of "joins"...
e.g. The drop is about to end and everyone included will receive the lowest price but 50 users back out at the last minute causing the number of "joins" to fall into the previous price zone. (Boooo those users!)
So it makes sense for MD to hold off until the drop has expired until they charge anyone or they would potentially have a shitload of charge backs to deal with.
I hope this helps! "Whatsa matta Dylan... Da CIA gotcha pushing too many pencils?" - Sorry... couldn't help myself. ;)
References: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debit_card#Online_debit_system ** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_Clearing_House
SUPERdylan
42
Jun 22, 2017
DzeimsasThanks, that's interesting information. I'm not having whatever problem others were complaining about though. Drops work fine for me, I get charged after they end as expected. One time there was a problem (I chose a closed account as my payment source in PP when joining the drop but didn't notice until too late), MD notified me at the end of the drop when the payment wouldn't process, and I selected different payment source in PP and everything was fine.
My question was more about people who complained about not joining a drop until they transfer money to their PP balance so they miss the drop (ex. Infinity ErgoDox), or a drop option sells out (ex. Carbon Warning Keys), etc. I don't understand why people using PP can't just join the drop when they decide they want to? Does PP work differently for some people? Is it because they haven't linked a bank account or don't have a backup CC or some third reason I can't think of right now?
Like I said, when I join a drop I get an "authorization" charge in PP (exactly like a CC authorizations works), but no real money goes anywhere until the drop ends. Anyway, I'm not having MD or PP troubles, I just wanted to know what others were talking about.
ZALHERA
843
Jun 24, 2017
SUPERdylanThe ErgoDox professional kit is popular if only for the reason that it's rare to see ErgoDox modifiers with legends on them. But I agree, my current layout wouldn't appreciate the legends on the pro kit at all, and I suspect most ErgoDox users will eventually find that the standard layout doesn't fit them either. Blank Modifiers Master Race!
Dzeimsas
25
Jun 28, 2017
SUPERdylanHahaha... my bad Dylan! I just read your original post again and I totally get what you were asking. I'm not sure why I interpreted it the way I did the first time. Maybe the users who are having the issues don't have a Debit card registered so it doesn't act the same way.
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