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Carloop Starter Kits: Basic, Bluetooth & 3G

Carloop Starter Kits: Basic, Bluetooth & 3G

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Dear Carloop - I know What contain set for 49,99 USD (carlop Basics with the Particle Photon). when I give you 5 USD additionally , then carloop change me my borad as Particle Photon with bluetootch, but without Wifi. - Do I say right ? What contain set when I add 55 USD , I have Basic set , and bluetootch and 3G modem, or only 3 D modem without Wifi and bluetootch ?
@spicypasta same issue. I got the redbear duo instead of the particle photon.
C'mon massdrop. This is an important detail. It is possible to get code running on the duo but the particle firmware is 2 years out of date and doesn't fully support particle cloud.
@spicypasta i have the same issue, mine just came in, and it is the RedBear Duo.. the description says: Carloop Bluetooth (+ $5)
  • Bluetooth + Wi-Fi
  • Particle Photon included
alpha_pup
Hello Dear Friend I have a question about massdrop set. Do you explain it for me ? I know What contain set for 49,99 USD (carlop Basics with the Particle Photon). when I give you 5 USD additionally , then carloop change me my borad as Particle Photon with bluetootch, but without Wifi. - Do I say right ? What contain set when I add 55 USD , I have Basic set , and bluetootch and 3G modem, or only 3 D modem without Wifi and bluetootch ?
Is anyone else having a problem because MassDrop sent this starter kit out with a RedBear Duo rather than a Particle Photon? This is ridiculous and now I'll have to go buy a Photon separately since RedBear is basically a dead project. Thanks MassDrop...
What is this, whats it for, why should I buy it?
I'm not in the market for this, but it seems to me that having a naked circuit board is risking exposure to dust, groping fingers and other hazards.
If I wanted one, I'd want it to come with some sort of protective cover.
SennapodTee
I understand your concern... However this is a new piece of tech in market for developers... An open-source tech that allows developer to play around with ... a Protective cover would later be designed around it to match it's intended use ... But for now it is just a toy to play around with ... Just like any microcontroller in the market.
Gasimms
This comment highlights my biggest fear about this project. It's 'just a toy' that connects to a 2000 lb machine which is capable of killing both the occupants and innocent bystanders. There is no where near enough safety or thought put into this product. The main photo shows that GND is directly next to CAN-H with no protection -- meaning that it would be dreadfully simple to short out the CAN bus. Cute toy, but the inventors should be held personally responsible for any injury or death resulting from negligent use of this product.
Can you technically tune cars with this? Thinking like R32's, STI's, Evo's, Rx7's etc.
So... most cars don’t have the CAN bus. It has been around for ages, but generally it was only used on expensive vehicles before the late 2000’s.
Many more modern cars use it due to its abilities, but many (including some OBD2 cars) are likewise encrypted to prevent modifications (and with the modifications, the possibility of non-compliance, mechanical damage, etc.).
Chances are good that most will use this almost exclusively as stated... as a customizable ‘wireless’ code scanner.
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So, is this of any use to me if my car uses ISO 1941?
skine
I think it depends if the programs carloop has will read and decode ISO 1941. Otherwise if you can write or find code that will decode ISO 1941, you can probably code the micro controller to read in data over the ISO 1941 pins which are 7 and 15 I believe? You should also still get data out from OBD2 CAN Bus pins on the OBD2 port.
@Carloop Are only the BUS pins connected to the I/O's of the microcontroller or are other pins as well connected like the ISO 1941-2 and SAE J1850 pins?
Every time I see these drop I think it's a kit for remote car starting.
ribo
is this not a kit for remote car starting?
How do you commit for the Bluetooth version? If I press the commit button for the basic version and it goes to 10 can I later add on the Bluetooth?
Is it possible to get this without any of the Particle boards? I need the Europe 3G version :)
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Whoops, we need to update that!
Carloop
Can I get the Americas version and buy the sim separately? Could you offer the European version on Massdrop?
Not sure if this is of interest to anyone, but this week we released a GPS + Accelerometer that plugs into Carloop. It's called the Carloop GPS. Would love to hear what you think https://store.carloop.io/products/carloop-gps
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Carloop
Would love to be order this as part of the drop
danmandle
Let's get Massdrop involved!
I don't see an option for The Car Hacker's Handbook, either.
esquared
The Car Hacker’s Handbook is unfortunately out of stock but if you need a reference you can find the free PDF version offered by the author - Craig Smith.
Does the 3g band model cover american 3g band in this drop? If i recall the last drop was only a euro cellular module
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Chakid12
Don't matter, Verizon isn't activating any new 3g devices after june 18 of this year, and other carriers are likely to do the same.
Wor.Blux
Hey @Wor.Blux, good point! We use Particle.io as 3G carrier. $2.99/mo for 3MB: https://www.particle.io/pricing/ and they will support it long term as long as it is available.
Waiting until 3rd Jan before shipping seems a bit of a stretch
Timbergetter
Yeah, small-scale manufacturing sucks when you're used to global, mass-market stuff.
Can I use this to start my car with my phone?
So you're saying we should raise a generation of super children?
FatalException
Basically.
Strange that this isn't also listed in the Auto community.
tguy
No idea how to cross list it, but if you can pull some strings, we would definitely appreciate it! 🙏
Hold on so what the fuck does this exactly do?
FKaii
It tells you why your car has it's "check engine" light on.
FKaii
It begins!!
They are delaying shipping. It was supposed to ship on 28th. I tried to cancel but they won't let me cancel the order.
Where is the option to purchase the Car Hackers Handbook during Checkout? I did not see it as an option?
The 3G version is the same price here as it is on their site, and less of a wait than waiting for the drop to ship.
Can I reflash the ECU of my 2015 VW with this tool?
mohawkTrail
You might be able to, but there will be a lot of programming, debugging, and security code cracking ahead of you.
No Carloop Pro ?!
ytwytw
We are revamping Carloop Pro. You will love it once we are done with it!
ytwytw
See our post at the very top of this discussion 👍
Just to be clear, because of the weird read-only funky product development of the 1999 model year, this wouldn't be able to intercept and send commands through to my 1999 Honda, would it?
I'm mechanically fooling the computer into doing what I want it to do for my e85 conversion but getting the spray patterns right on water/meth injection in order to displace enough units of air in order to make the fuel run stoic is a serious pain in the ass.
Yes you read all of that correctly. I figured instead of modifying it to give it way more fuel to get it to run stoic, I would simply have it AF less air since the extremely simple closed loop operation of the vehicle is confuse by what he oxygen sensor is reading vs the MAP. Simple.
Shepherdess
You forgot to mention your flux capacitor.
crashtest
R00d
Hi there,
Just received my carloop with bluetooth option in Australia. Just wanted to clarify that I received the right package. The description of the drop said it included a particle photon. I received a red bear duo v1.0? Bit disappointing that it's not as described in the drop vs what you receive.
danielwas
Red Bear is teh bloo toothed chip.
So after some time trying to get this working (Carloop+3G), it turns out that the U270 3G unit that this ships with only works in Europe, Asia or Africa. I'm in the US, so I'm out of luck. I don't remember seeing this anywhere in the description, and I'm really disappointed with my purchase...
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Yeah, has an IMEI number. But there are different networks in North America than in Europe. From the Particle site: "We offer two types of Electron 3G Kits—one for North and South America (850/1900 MHz) and one for Europe/Asia/Africa (900/1800 MHz)."
This is the Europe/Asia/Africa one.
jordanf
Hey Jordan! Oops! you must've gotten the wrong one by accident! Send it back to us and we'll send you the correct one. Send me an e-mail at alan@carloop.io
Thanks and sorry for this inconvenience!
You can get a bluetooth obd adapter for $10-$20 on Amazon. Buy torque for your phone and boom. This thing is overpriced as hell. +$55 for 3g? K. Here is what I use on my 99 Sierra 1500: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005NLQAHS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1495895129&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=bluetooth+obd+2+scanner&dpPl=1&dpID=416SaTHOpkL&ref=plSrch
If you have a non GM vehicle you can get one of the $5-$10 ones and it might work. I bought a $5 one and it didn't work with my truck, but I gave it to my cousin and it works on his Nissans.
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No worries! There's definitely a lot of junk out there so we need to be vigilant 😏
Carloop can sniff CAN messages and can sends CAN messages into the Controller Area Network (CAN) of a car. This is how the Engine Control Module communicates with the Transmission Control Module, ABS module, Body Control Module, etc.
In my example, it would read the broadcasted vehicle speed (probably sent out by ABS module) and then upon crossing the 40 mph threshold, Carloop would send the corresponding CAN message that rolls windows up.
Lots of research to figure out which CAN message for vehicle speed and windows rolling up, but not impossible.
Dear Carloop - I know What contain set for 49,99 USD (carlop Basics with the Particle Photon). when I give you 5 USD additionally , then carloop change me my borad as Particle Photon with bluetootch, but without Wifi. - Do I say right ? What contain set when I add 55 USD , I have Basic set , and bluetootch and 3G modem, or only 3 D modem without Wifi and bluetootch ?
Just curious, why the new drop instead of re-dropping the previous?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/38325
Probably not, but would this allow me (Bluetooth version) to connect my phone to it and play music from my phone to the car's speakers?
Rulerofthelord
Funny.