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Carlos Santos Monkstrap Shoes

Carlos Santos Monkstrap Shoes

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What size should I get if I wear a Cole Haan in 10.5?
Carlos Santos are pretty true to size and well made, but I will never buy another pair of their patinaed shoes. I have a beautiful pair of their wholecuts they made for Herring. They look fantastic, but are an absolute PITA to polish properly. Every time I get to doing the mirror finish on the toe, the moisture gets under the wax and i have strip them again and start over. Yes, I know what I am doing, and I only use Saphir products. Still, I love the shoes, but I don’t have enough time to have hit and miss with my polishing efforts. No more patina shoes for me.
Would have joined if it were single monk straps
Any data points on the sizing here in this new Z401 last? I wear 6.5 UK in their 160 last, which is more elongated and narrower. I believe a 6 would offer a better fit. Not exactly sure how the two lasts compare.
I wear an E in width. Are these shoes narrow or true to size. Should I size up?
Can u add the matching belt with this drop like with their other shoes?
Hmm, just got my shoes yesterday. The patina/style fo it is not as visible/prominent as I expected to be. To my eyes, its almost a plain blue shoe. This is how it looks?

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To me they seem to not have have the same patina as advertised.
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psykidellic
I can see the gradient in tones in your photo. Looks how I would expect.
tegeus-Cromis
Yeah, i guess i was expecting it to be more prominent.
Just wanna share some initial photos of the shoes after a round of polishing.
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NouYorker
Which color option is this?
WhiskeyTwoFour
They're Braga.
Decided not to get these because of the sizing question. I fit a 43 in nearly all my pairs of dress shoes. Is the sizing on these accurate?
Dionysis
The sizing is accurate. My only complaint is the round toe, which I’ve rarely seen in Santos shoes and is a bit disappointing. Naturally it was disclosed in the drop, but it’s more pronounced than in the pictures.
Sizing help. I’m a UK8.5 in the Carmina Simpson last.
Size advice please: My largest foot is 254mm long, x 103mm wide. Brannock device: 7.5D. I have AE Dalton boot 7.5 EEE. I could probably get, and would like to get a size 7, as 7.5 still feels a little long. The width EEE is to accomodatemy orthotics. I don't like getting larger sizes to accommodate the orthotics (I.e. size 8 or 9) as my toe occasionally catches the pavement while walking with 7.5 shoe, and it occurs even more frequently with longer shoes. My main concern is the vamp/ throat region being tight and not stretching out. Please advise.
May I know what the sole is like, e.g. closed channel leather sole or dainite?
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OK good. I joined the drop and got UK 6.5 / US 7.5 in Braga. Please make sure they order the right size for me.
tony2tran91
consider it done! thanks for the flag again.
If I wear 7D in most of my Allen Edmonds (42 last, 65 last) and UK 6 in my Meermin Hiro last, will this be too narrow?
psykidellic
If you can fit Hiro comfortably, this shouldn’t be too narrow. It’s average.
They look great but i am hesitant to buy shoes when you can't return them if they don't fit.
Do these run narrow? If I typically wear 8.5 C in Allen Edmunds will these be too wide?
LanceL
They don't run narrow, but they're not an overtly wide D. Honestly, if you're a C width, these will stay in place and the leather won't open up much. Width over time (as the leather breaks in and expands) really depends on your foot, if you're a C width (on the narrow side of things) then you won't put much pressure on the leather width-wise and they'll stay pretty much the same over time. Hope that helps a bit!
How do they fit compared to the 160 last ? If I wear size 7uk in 160, should I go for 7 or 7.5uk in z401 ?
iMoi
The last Z160 and Z401 should fit the same size. I checked with the folks from Carlos Santos. I'd personally go with the 7 UK in this case as well. Hope that helps!
Able to add an US 6.5 size to the drop?
Does anyone know if there will be customs/duties that will need to be paid if ship to Canada?
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Whats this CETA thing? Every time I order from MD i get charged some sort of fee at pick up.
Got charged $100 customs for this in Canada. Can I dispute?
What kind of leather is used for these shoes, and from which tannery?
Adjust
They use French Calf from Le Puy and Annonay, some of (if not) the best tanneries in the world.
What is the fit like on these? I wear a 10 EEE in Allen Edmonds Carlyle and Lake Forest. Some EEE AE's don't fit me though... any thoughts?
What happened to the purple and green colors? Are they no longer making them?
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Sounds good. I'd be interested in the violet ones in a future drop, if they're still in production.
Wow! I was tempted by the blue, but knowing that there are purples out there... I think I'll be waiting for those. They're gorgeous!
Is this a good deal? Worth the price?
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I would recommend against ordering up. The drop page clearly states both the US and UK size you are ordering. If Massdrop or CS get it wrong, make them replace or refund. Don’t place the wrong order just to try to pre-empt a possible error on the other side.
Those earlier comments took place around the time when we had an issue with sizing on a Carmina event and people started to speculate the same would hold true for this event. If you pick the size you'd normally pick, you should be fine. At checkout we list both the US and UK size for every choice. Thanks for your interest on this drop!
darn... size 6.5 here :‘(
If the shipment is done by massdrop the origin country is us, right? Any chances to send it from Portugal to Poland directly? Best Regards.
Kaptom
The shipping will be done from the US. Unfortunately we can't reroute shipping from the factory to our customers directly.
Anyone got theirs yet? Any issues?
Anyone else having delivery issues or did I just get lucky?
Anyone else get their shoes yet? Mine arrived today and they say 7 US/6 UK on the box, 7 on the inside, and "7/US" on the bottom of the outsole. I ordered a 7.5 UK/8.5 US. Were these mislabeled with regards to the US/UK sizing? It kind of fits like an 8 US, really constricting on my left foot but just a little tight on my right, and the heel of my right foot is slipping just a slight amount. (left foot 8.5D Brannock; right foot 8D Brannock).
The Algarve patina is stunning! They seem to be really well crafted as well.
DJCOSTCOSAMPLES
I ordered 8.5US and received 8.5US and it runs big.
I have an oddball sizing question that I hope someone can help me with. I have really sadly mangled and swollen feet and ankles due to injuries. My left foot is a US size 13, my right a US size 13.5. I usually buy 14s and just tighten the laces up really snugly and that solves any problems, along with wearing thicker socks. Based on all of this, would a US size 14 be appropriate for these shoes? I'm assuming they run true to size and don't run large or small. In Allen Edmonds, I wear a 14EEE and go for wider lasts, as in their Road Warrior series.
Many thanks for any suggestions! I"m really liking that green.
Bob
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aptivaboy
Hey Bob, Spoke with our amazing Carlos Santos guy and he thinks this might be a bit of a stretch if you normally wear a 14EEE in AE. We don't want to steer you down the wrong road. We hope to offer some larger sizes in the future. Appreciate your interest in the drop!
blouie
Thanks. I'll have to pass, then. I appreaciate you checking into this. I'm really messed up shoewise. If I had the cash, I'd go for bespoke shoes given how odd my feet are.
I have a question about these shoes being painted. How do they differ from the standard leather shoes that we all have. Can you condition and polish a painted shoes? Does the paint breakdown in time and chip and peel? When I think of paint I think that it eventually peels and cracks. I am trying to understand how these compare to unpainted shoes that I am use to. Thank you.
Bond007
I believe they are just using several layers of dye/polish to give the shoes a patinated look.
Wish Carlos Santos had an Oxblood color...
I'm an 8.5D in AE oxfords (65 & 1943 last), 7.5UK will be snug enough on the heels for these?
DJCOSTCOSAMPLES
It seems like their alentenjo is as close as it gets to oxblood.
Being the owner of a few pairs of AE 8.5D park avenues as well and it seems the 65 last is a little narrower than the Carlos Santos 234 last; however because the monk strap comes with 2 straps with 3 holes in it there's a lot of room for adjustment, and they're elastic. Otherwise the conversion seems accurate 8.5US = 7.5UK.
The quality of Carlos Santos also seem to be on par with my AEs; and more aesthetically pleasing... to me.
DJCOSTCOSAMPLES
Hi! Our Carlos Santos rep is recommending the US 8.5/UK 7.5. Enjoy!