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Cayin i5 Android Digital Audio Player

Cayin i5 Android Digital Audio Player

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anyone tested this compared to pioneer xdp 300r? which do yo prefer between the two in terms of user interface, responsiveness and ease of use. Advantages and disadvantages between both. haven’t tested both, and torn between these DAP, hence i need user feedbacks. thanks in advance… 👍👍👍
Please educate me... why would one want an audio player of this type and cost vs the (likely) high end phone you carry on your person every day? I loved my Sansa e280 mp3 player in 2007, just not sure if a standalone music player (esp at this price point) is relevant in 2018?
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There are more and more sites doing FLAC and Hi-Res. However like the early days in any format they are a lot more expenses than MP3s here's a list of some of the top Hi-Res https://www.sony.com/electronics/best-music-download-sites-hi-res-audios .There are more sites than this of course and if you are more adventuresome there are “free” sites out there that do Hi-Res and FLAC as well.
ScottD
You CAN hear the difference with a decent player and good headphones and earphones, even with MP3. I think you need very good ($$$) electronics to hear much difference between FLAC/Apple lossless and higher-res formats. But you can hear the difference between an iPhone and say a Fiio X3 ($189) and $50-100 earphones, which are giving you a cleaner louder signal and better reproduction than stock earphones on a phone.
I'm not sure if a $100 Fiio player does do better, but I would like a Cayin i5 or N5ii.
It would be great if massdrop dropped the N5ii instead of the i5.
The N5ii is only $369 at msrp yet sounds better than the i5. It may be only 280 after a drop. Now THAT would be a no brainer.
Seriously, the only reason I can see why anyone would get the i5 is just for a bigger screen
I couldn't figure out its UI @ CanJam NYC. LOL.
cri this is perfect except that fucking pricetag $$$
Can someone tell me about USB Out feature (I think the feature came to device with 2.2 firmware?) Is it stable? Is there any annoying thing while using with an external DAC? I have Meridian Explorer 2 and works perfect through Cayin N3's USB out but I can not use Tidal with Cayin N3 so considering to get a DAP with Tidal offline and a stable USB out feature.
And by the way how is Tidal usage? Is it stable (especially Tidal Offline)
Thanks.
Addition: I tried USB out of N5ii with Meridian Explorer 2 and it did not work well. N5ii having problems with USB out and it seems the updates could not solve it yet.
The battery life is only 11 hours :((((((((
ducman
11 hours is relatively long battery life, compared to other DAP's in a similar class.
If I already didn't have a Sony ZX2
Drop the N5ii and I'll be all over that.
5 versions of Android behind. I take it this will not run Google play music.
Headfonics review of the i5 (2016)
https://headfonics.com/2016/10/the-i5-dap-by-cayin/
Will it work with Audible?
Support bluetooth aptx?
andzyyy
NOPE :)
Still gonna wait for the HiBy R6... that thing is a beast.
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Sebastian: what headphones are you using?
climbthemtns
I use quite a few actually, but mainly the JVC FXH-30. It's far more transparent sounding than most IEM's out there (CA Andromeda included) so its easier to notice small changes which is needed especially when comparing different DAPs.
Can anyone tell me whether this player supports Asian character song name?
Engussl983
Yes it does
i do own an i5, everything is great, cayin is supportive in head-fi, ui is simple, music is good
but the only things is update is kind of dead!
as stated by cayin in head-fi, the quad-core Cortex A-7 processor used in cayin i5 is no longer supported by the manufacture, which mean no more future update and support will be given to the processor by the manufacture
What are the main advantages of i5 over N5ii? The Cayin N5ii costs 290 Euros now, which is very close to price of this drop.
derzulya
A more mature UI and firmware most likely (currently).... Some people have been having issues with plastic Jack's on the n5ii....
Other than that, nothing I can think of. No reason to get this with the n5ii being out unless you really hate sabre DACs. If this were at a steep discount it might be worth considering, but it's not.
I don't understand the comments about the old Android OS. It either works as a DAP, or it doesn't. There are plenty of PC-based audio systems that run on an outdated OS, including old Linux, and work great. If you want to do non-music things with Android, use a phone. If you don't like this as a DAP, that's fine, too, but judging based on irrelevant criteria seems spurious to me.
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Just to add, I have a FiiO x7. It comes with android 5, but I still regularly get updates for Spotify and Tidal. Spotify/Tidal offline essentially doesn’t work (tries to download to the OS partition irregardless my settings), so I’m disappointed because I pay for the streaming services for new music but my portable player becomes almost useless on the go except for my old collection of music (that I’ve heard many times).
One more thing to add... you cannot upgrade the internal storage of an iOS device, but you CAN load up MicroSD cards and use WiFi or Lightning card readers to bring more music with you.
I believe there is a drop for just such a device right now: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/naztech-xtra-drive-mini-for-iphone Also, SanDisk makes products where it allows back-and-forth access and transfer.
all that said... I still like a DAP, because they offer superior DACs and amps as an all-in-one instead of a rubber-banded external component, and I definitely like my notifications separate from my music.
Fiio Q5 + DPX1A 😲
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Definitely receives rather than broadcasts. May not be a big issue while on the go, but at home it means your phone or computer needn't be in the same room with you and your Q5.
I have a Q5, can confirm it pairs hassle free through bluetooth with both my iPhone and Samsung S8. Initial pairing took a bit of time but after that it connects in like 3s each time. Sounds terrific and looks smexy, recommended!
If this DAP is in your budget and you cannot go higher than the price, I'd say get it even with Android 4.4. I've got one myself and it just sounds fantastic (musical, warm), has BT and wifi. Although development has kind of halted it does work well as is. My only qualm is the UI for an Android DAP is a little funky but overall it's very enjoyable and can hold a ton of music files. And there's also Neutron support as well.
I'm more interested to hear the N5ii or the recently released Hiby R6 which is most likely why development for the i5 has stopped since Hiby built their own DAP.. I'm still wishing I'd backed it on IGG.
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Yea it's crazy that Apple Music and Spotify will let you but not Play Music. Luckily I have an Apple Music subscription too but it's so slow on a device like this that's under powered that I don't like using it often, lol! I'll download different playlist offline with it that I can just start and let play but albums I've just been downloading and putting on the SD card to use the default music player
My FiiO X7 (first gen) also has offline problems. Spotify and Tidal let me select my SD card or internal storage instead of the OS partition, but I get “low storage” error messages and can’t download music anyway.
If I had known offline doesn’t work, I would’ve just used my old deactivated iPhone 6S. If anyone finds a fix for any of these Hiby-based players (Cayin, FiiO, HiBy, maybe Shanling if they ever release an android player), please reply in this comments thread. As it stands... maybe I should just sell everything and buy a used Android smartphone with a MicroSD slot?
Sleek looking player. I'd jump on it but android 4.4 is way outdated.
Hey friends. My i5 just arrived, and so far so good. I'm still waiting on the SD card I ordered so I haven't really used it much, but it occurred to me that I should probably get a case for this thing, however everywhere I look the cases are out-of-stock. This is the one I'm looking for: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cayin-I5-Leather-Case-Protective-Cover-Skin-for-I5-HiFi-Lossless-Music-Player/32683550826.html but I'm not that picky at this point.
I'm wondering if anyone else who grabbed this was able to find a case for it, and could point me in the right direction. Thanks!
MikeCI
Hello. Have you by any chance found that specific case? I'm also looking for that one...
MikeCI
Etsy valentino
My Cayin i5 stacked with a Chord Hugo 2 for big sound from a little player. Great combo!
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Benzerk
How are u stacking it? Line out to Hugo? (Then is Cayin amp lacking?) Or Cayin as transport?(Mind if I ask, why not just use the phone in airplane mode?)
ridhuankim
In this photo: Cayin i5 > USB OTG > Chord Hugo > Audeze LCD-4
I don't think the i5 lacks power for portable headphones and the sound coming out of it is pretty good to my ears. I do however much prefer the sound of the Hugo and it drives big boy headphones very well.
I tried using the Hugo with Samsung S7, S8 and LG G6 and none of them have bit perfect OTG capability, their android sound driver is limited to 16/44. Although with a bit of tinkering I got the G6 to 24/96 it still was unreliable and limited to my needs, I haven't tried the V20/30 which I hear are much better. Anyways with the i5 I don't have any of these issues and can play any MQA file reliably, plus I also really like the UI.
Wonder how this will compare to my inbound Shanling 3ms ($349.00CAN including free case-on eBay)?
MC666
It wont. Less power not balanced. Shanling spanks it. Blowing hifiman he400i balanced off my head.
MC666
I have the shanling 3ms and it is amazing. The sound is clear with great balance and the 2.5 output drives some of my favorite iems like I'm I'm heaven
This may be a stupid question but is this also a phone? :o
JohnLe
Nope :)
JohnLe
No, it's strictly an audio player. -- Although you can install Android apps on it and browse the web, it's not recommended because it's got very little processing power/ram.
Sorry, but, where did you found it for 600$ ? Amazon has it for 399$: https://www.amazon.com/Cayin-Portable-Audio-Player-Leather/dp/B0725TS326/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511641502&sr=8-1&keywords=Cayin+i5 and it will be delivered way faster.
unixvova
For a while it was about 500 even on the cayin website it just recently dropped to about 400 dollars
Bought an N3 and it will not connect with a pair of Sennheiser PXC550 Bluetooth headphones. It sees it but repeats "Connection Failed." Is there a general problem with Cayin DAPs and Sennheiser BT headphones as one seller suggested?
DrBob
Had no problems connecting to any of my Bluetooth devices. Cayin N3 is a great little device.
Tsar_Bomba
Had no problem with iPhone and MacBook Pro and Senn 550s. N3 just keeps saying "Connection Failed."
Yes, I own one too. Wonderful little player. If you don't use Wi-Fi or Bluetooth it will give me 12 hours. With Wi-Fi about 10. It drives my Sennheiser PXC480 fine and does a very decent job on the MrSpeakers Ether C.
What's the battery life like? My Onkyo DP-1 is pretty bleak.
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That's what the manual says... in reality no. Even with WiFi shut off and in Airplane mode. The majority of my files are FLAC so I don't know if that's the cause.
Tsar_Bomba
Just saw Your reply. I bought a FiiO X7, basically the same battery life. Higher resolution songs drain battery faster than MP3 or MP4 files.