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CIVIVI by WE Knife: Baklash Folding Knife

CIVIVI by WE Knife: Baklash Folding Knife

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Any updates on what's going on?
AverageDude
None. This is my first and last dealing with Massdrop. They haven't responded at all and I'm probably going to do a chargeback soon
Second drop in a row I had delayed. No point in doing any more business with a website like this. I’ll take my refund and spend it elsewhere.
beenjammin0
It happens man, but I will say in my last 15 drops only 2 have been delayed, and not by much.
Voxata
As of last month, i would've said the same. Only a couple minor delays out of dozens of drops. This month I've had 3 drops that were supposed to be delivered, all 3 were delayed. I canceled this one (the first to be delayed) The second one was updated to shipped status the next day (on a Friday), but that really only meant they printed the labels. It didn't actually get to FedEx till the following Tuesday (side complaint: then it took from Tuesday AM to Friday to get from NJ to NY 🙄) Third one was supposed to ship yesterday, no update yet. @Duncan @kyleemj @Mark M. @JonasHeineman Can anyone speak to what's going on lately, that so many drops seem to be delayed in recent weeks as compared to previous months?
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Ugh. Joined the drop even though it was full blown retail price....and now I get the email that the drop is delayed 🙄 Yeeeup, cancelling that shit. I don't get how you can place an order with the company close to 3 weeks ago (again I'll say, a company you already have a strong working relationship with), yet can't fulfill the orders? Failed on getting us a deal, failed on delivering the product...succeeded only in getting an interest free short term loan 😒
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Yeah. It's just diappointing cause I'm getting into EDC and literally every site (gearbest, here, bladehq) I've bought from last month have done this. They take massive orders to get economy of scale, which is totally fine, but actually have no plans to fulfill that order. They wait until it's profitable for them and lead you on with false deadlines. Whenever you ask, they give u a carrot like "1 week later" then move it again.
bigdaddykim
Well, to be honest, I've ordered dozens of things here, and only had this happen once or twice. This one just irked me a little extra because it wasn't really a deal to begin with This place isn't perfect, but I wouldn't say they do that on the regular.
You guys talking about MAP pricing is entertaining at least! You guys have no clue how manufactures work and pricing structures form. You only see one side, remember there are many moving strategies and parts to products...and manufacturers have the right to refuse service.
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I think there is a side to the business that we don't understand. Some purchases might not make sense for us in the USA because we have so many choices.
TortoiseThunder
Yup, I'll never understand that argument either, sorry. If you literally mean choices, there are dozens of online shops that ship globally. If you mean some things are better deals for overseas buyers.... Just because price plus shipping to Australia is a good deal, doesn't mean MD did their job negotiating a group buy discount if they're still listing base price the same as everywhere else. Sale price is what matters here, that's what MD claims they can effect with their group buy model. What they choose to do with discounting overseas shipping is up to them. What they make up for in volume of foreign sales should supplement the reduced shipping rates, that shouldn't come out of the domestic buyers' pocket. In simplest terms: once this is back in stock at WhiteMountainKnives, i can get it CHEAPER there with a coupon code that's readily available to anyone 24/7. They obviously are still making a profit at 10% below this cost over there, right? Therefore, MD had ZERO negotiating power on this one if they couldn't even get us down 10% like standard retailers and a youtube reviewer's coupon can 🙄 I've been looking at it this whole time like they should be able to get better than average discounts with WE in particular, given their symbiotic relationship with the collabs....but i'm starting to wonder if I have this backwards. Maybe MD agreed to get them more sales at average retail price in exchange for the better pricing we get on the collabs? Which would mean they're looking out for the retailers, not "their community" Either way, i can't find any angle on this one that makes sense for their proposed business model, for this drop to have listed at the price it did, or for it to have failed to deliver on time. If you have another theory that makes sense, something more than just "I guess we don't understand all the details", i'd love to have you change my mind. Whether we get any of it right or not, I enjoy the theoretical discussion and hearing sides I haven't considered
Civivi is to WE what Epiphone is to Gibson. (I like Epiphone!) I hope to see Civivi as a regular here at MD. I want to get this, but The "BestTec." is already on order. Maybe next round. Make sure you keep trying to get the Green!
Isn't this the same price as everywhere else?
FABEL
It's the same price as on bladehq and knifecenter
bigdaddykim
that's the point.  Massdrop is great!!, but I thought the whole point of the company is to bring items to the public below what we can get anywhere else.  it's frustrating when this isn't the case as seen here
Hey everyone! We were able to get more Black and Green from WE Knife. Enjoy:)
Backlash seems so popular that retailers are having trouble keeping them in stock. Not a great price here, but I timely reminder to check who has it available.
Go to White Mountain Knives. They partner with a few youtuber to give discount code for 10% off. They also provide free shipping in the us. I got this knife from them for less than $40 shipped.
No black???
Mike45acp
Black is now available
Not a good deal! Same price at Bladehq.
When I saw this in my email, I was like "finally!" The blade shape is outstanding IMO, and overall design looks near perfect for my taste, nice grind, deep carry clip - check! But crap steel and ho hum handle actually made me sad.
Come on Massdrop, sell some other CIVIVI models. You carry the Baklash so much more often than any other CIVIVI. How about the Shard, or Aquila, or Courser, or my top choice right now the PRAXIS. Please.
How can you possibly be OUT of black???????????????????? This just dropped this morning. Really starting to hate MD.
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I asked the eBay seller about how he got caught and put on the “do not sell to” list, and he said that he listed some Spyderco Knives on eBay below MAP. It kind of surprised me that he did that.
DougFLA123
Yeah, big oops there....but that would explain it! Thanks for the follow up
I have read and watched nothing but positive reviews on civivi knives. Action and fit and finish are suppose to be great. Ive read they are made in the same factory as the more expensive WE models. Only down side is the steel and The 9cr blade steel was holding me back but i finally pulled the trigger (just before this drop for the same price btw) after watching some cut tests on youtube by pete from cedric and ava channel (no affiliation). It did surprisingly well comparing to vg10 and 440c in performance and even better After he reprofiled to 17 degrees it did like 210 cuts. The factory grind is already thin behind the edge though and yes its still budget steel but at the price point...All the steels he tests do increase after reprofiling which makes sense with the more acute bevel. for a budget steel i thought it was gonna be pretty much like 8cr13mov which I think did half the cuts after the Reprofile w a kershaw atmos. Both were hollow grinds. apparently those few extra mov and the 1 more chromium makes a significant difference. Actually im thinking its probably the heat treat but im no metalurgist i just know it performed better in his tests. He even tested a no name freewolf 9cr in another video which didnt do near as good reenforcing my thoughts on civivis heat treat. Anyway he does alot of steel and cutting testing so I recommend checking it out if 9cr has you on the fence. The knife should be here this week and im excited to check it out. Might just live up to the hype.
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Cdoyle
If I were to heat treat the blade, I would take it apart and send the blade out to be treated. Its not expensive to have done.
Yugbe
Being a production knife its already heat treated to 58-60 rockwell per Civivis site.
Received my new Baklash by Civivi/WE today and it’s beautiful! The blade is arm shaving sharp out of the box and centered. As with many knives from WE, the initial flip to open is a bit stiff but also, with all the WE knives I have, that loosens up after a short while of flipping. The deep carry clip is a nice touch and over all, it’s a solid knife, doesn’t feel cheap at all and for $42, I will likely get other knives by WE’s budget line. I have no experience with the 9Cr18MoV steel so time will tell. Oddly, this is the first knife I have without any markings on the blade. I had to come back here to refresh my memory on the blade material. The blue anodized liner looks great and the liner lock fully engages. When flipping open, it feels and sounds very solid. I’ve included a pic with my favorite EDC, the Ferrum Forge/WE/Massdrop Gent for size comparison. The Baklash blade is roughly 3/8” longer than the Gent’s. Great job Civivi!
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I got a "your package has shipped" email last Friday. It still has no update on it for a delivery time frame. Anyone else in this same boat? I was looking forward to getting it this week while my wife is away on business (one less knife purchase to explain...;-)
9/24 update: My knife was delivered. A comment/question to MD support generated the knife to be delivered expedited. Great service and appreciate the help getting it to me. The knife itself is great. I echo what ItsDarts says above.
Well I was going to get the Black model but it was sold out. Thanks for listing it in the description that quantities were limited. Oh wait...
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I believe black is the most popular bc of the blue liners. I couldnt find black anywhere I looked online and settled for green. The praxis model was sold out everywhere also. The baklash is lighter thou and more edc friendly.
AstroBev
Black is now available!
The anodized liners is a nice touch.
Hmmm, basically a slightly better version of Kershaw folders as the steel is the next level up from 8cr blah blah. I actually like the look of these blades and WE is killing it but once I got a taste for better steel, less need for sharpening (not maintenance) and such, it’s hard to downgrade just for price. Lol... Seems a tad pricey to me but to each there own. Nice looking for sure...
TRexSr
My sentiments exactly. I expect these are WE quality, which is impeccable. The steel choice in this price range when there is so much D2 and VG10 on the market is unacceptable. Sorry WE, won't be touching these.
namhod
Yeah vg-10 was my thought too at this price point. D2 is stretching it but as I have 2 really sharp nearly 4" folders I have come to decide I’m not a fan of the constant effort to protect them even in the desert environment of Vegas. I had one start to rust on me though I think the finish was rushed for that production piece. My replacement looked much better. As of now I prefer stainless blades for folders. Just rambling on I am...lol
Blade hq has this knife for the same price + $3 shipping.
Ziggler
Yup, confirmed. But I would be holding the BladeHQ knife in a few days instead of one month from purchase.
Pstone12
That why I posted it. I rather $3 extra bucks and have it then save three bucks and not have it for a month. Don't get me wrong some of these deals are worth waiting for I just rather go to hq you for this knife.
Great price point, nice clean and simple design. I'm thinking about one.
Anyone in CA, you get taxed despite free shipping. No reason to buy here and wait a month for delivery. Get it somewhere else instead, the shipping usually cheaper than tax. Most retailers also offer free shipping if you spend more than $100
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I just realized something. When you said "Anybody in CA you get tax"you were talking about California not Canada right? Lol oh well at least it still made sense to you. 👍
T.willy
Haha yeah CA is California, sorry. I happen to live in Ontario, California, so when i tell people Ontario, CA it can get confusing.
Don't buy this here. You can get it for precisely the same price and get it right away (for example bladehq). Apparently group buying doesn't net savings anymore. smh
aitmike
Well, this does reach a whole new group of people. Not everyone here, shops for knives elsewhere. This is their source.
So why not promote here as well? As a matter of fact, most who come here, don't shop for knives elsewhere. Just us knife nerds do. Some, don't need a knife the day after tomorrow. The more places a product sells, the merrier, correct?
aitmike
You are right about the price. This does offer free shipping, so a slight break there.
Did WE get onto mass drop or something ? Same price as everybody else and you have to wait a month To get it , where’s the benefit of buying it here?
Ben78
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Free shipping is good I guess
Notice this is “9”Cr”18”Mo, harder and more corrosion resistant than 8Cr13MoV typically round in lower priced knives, pretty similar to 440c and pretty low maintenance. Video review by a knife channel: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qb-IMQVe61c&t=17s
Personally, I think the tan handles and the blue liners look pretty great together in contrast, though I wish the tan was a tad warmer colored.

Edit: Hmm, maybe they don’t use vanadium?
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Yes, you are correct. I should have mentioned, that I was talking about the Praxis Knife. I was thinking about Civivi knives, in general. I think the Naja will be my second purchase. Sorry for the confusion that I created. : - )
SteveMidwest
No worries! Probably worthwhile to point out to others who check out the discussion on this drop ^__^