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IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 25, 2017
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I have a Code Green that was my first purchase on MD, and really loved it for quite a while before starting to find that the keys were too heavy. I've been contemplating the purchase of the Code Clear for a while now...pros? cons?
Would I want to put O-rings on it, or is the bottom-out weight sufficiently heavy? What's the deal with the pinging someone mentioned below? I love everything but the weight of the green switches on my current board, and haven't experienced any shine on the caps or anything like that.
Aug 25, 2017
n0meh9
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Aug 25, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterCurrently using a full-size code with clear switches for work. The keyboard is very nice overall but it doesn't feel quite as solid when compared to my pok3r. The keys produce a sort of twang when pressed as opposed to a nice thud. It doesn't really hurt the typing experience except a slight noise annoyance. With that though, Ducky has finally released a full-size keeb with clear switches with their newer ducky ones so I ordered one of them (arriving today! :D). I feel like it's been a while since major manufacturers entertained us clear switch users. Based on my previous experience with ducky, I'm expecting more compared to my code and plan to permanently replace my work keyboard with it.
Aug 25, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 25, 2017
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n0meh9Thanks for the feedback. The Ducky uses a Fn key in place of the Menu key, right? The Code is great because you could pick a backlight level and switch to the Menu key and never worry about that ever again. That's one of the main reasons I bought it in the first place.
Aug 25, 2017
m00nf1sh
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Aug 25, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterRe: putting O-rings on your board: I put O-rings (2mm) on my 60% CODE, and after using it for three weeks, I can say it was a mistake. I took them off and the keyboard feels much nicer.
In the morning I find the switches a bit heavy, but as my hands warm up they feel the right combination of sturdy/responsive.
Aug 25, 2017
Partyschaum
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Aug 25, 2017
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m00nf1shA 60% Code keyboard is not the best place to start when comparing WASD products since it's a Vortex Pok3r keyboard technically.
Aug 25, 2017
m00nf1sh
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Aug 25, 2017
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PartyschaumHuh, TIL! Thanks for the info.
Aug 25, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 25, 2017
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m00nf1shI'm currently using a first gen Glorious whatever Keyboard with Gateron browns and I dislike the sound and feel of bottoming out. That being said I dislike the Gat browns in general...the combination of light weight and insufficient-yet-present tactile feedback feels like the worst of all possible options.
Aug 25, 2017
ramboze
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Aug 28, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterI have had a remarkably similar experience. I bought a CODE-green and also eventually found them to be a little too heavy and fatiguing. I since have bought a CODE-clear and have never looked back. The weighting is pretty perfect for me. I have pretty normal sized and strength man-hands, but have been known to be heavy on my keyboards. One of the main differences between the clears and greens is the key feel. The greens have a very high-pitched "click" and you typically wont bottom-out on them (you'll just depress until you get the 'click' before lifting off). I found double-tapping the greens was pretty much impossible, which impacts typing speed. The clears are a little more 'grainy' feeling, but the weight is a lot better to cope with. Still firm, but not fatiguing. I also find that when I'm typing a lot on the clears, I wont bottom-out either, but will just go for the 'bump' feel before lifting off. The CODE-clear is my daily driver. Gaming (CSS, DOTA), typing, programming, everything on it. I only switch back to my other keyboards for novelty on a weekend now (CODE-green, Matias Quiet Pro, Unicomp Spacespaver (buckling spring)). I recommend the clears. Though I'd love to try a 'clicky clears' if there ever was such a thing! Hope this helps!
Aug 28, 2017
ramboze
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Aug 28, 2017
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rambozeI also have a gaming keyboard with Cherry Browns, which I hate - too light, not enough tactility.
Aug 28, 2017
ramboze
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Aug 28, 2017
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rambozeFinal thought - The only way to really know is to try it out!!! This means an expensive, glorious journey to find the perfect keyboard.
Aug 28, 2017
mmf1
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Aug 28, 2017
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rambozeThe clears are great if you think the browns are too light.
Aug 28, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 28, 2017
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rambozeAnd your thoughts on the pinging issue?
Aug 28, 2017
ramboze
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Aug 28, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterFor me, not an issue. At one point of time there was a bit of pinging, but it didn't bother me, and most of the time I have my headphones on. It does seem to annoy some people though, for me, I thought it was an interesting 'mechanical' like sound.
Aug 28, 2017
mmf1
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Aug 28, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterMy Code clears don't ping that loud. It's hardly noticeable unless you're deliberately trying to hear for it.
Aug 28, 2017
n0meh9
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Aug 28, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterUpdate on my previous comment. My ducky one with clears arrived. I would recommend that much more over this board. The feel is so much more solid comparatively. Typing on it feels way less metallic and there is significantly less of a twang/ping when typing. On top of that, the keys are better and I feel it has a bit more sleekness to it.
Aug 28, 2017
Anglave
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Aug 28, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterI'm typing on a full size Code Keyboard with Clear switches right now. I love it, they're my favorite switches by far. I don't have O-rings, and I've never noticed any binding or pinging. Clears are great, tactile enough that you know you've depressed the switch, but not as clackity as blues or greens.
I literally bought the Code Keyboard because of the Clears.
Aug 28, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 29, 2017
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n0meh9Did you get a keyboard with actual "Cherry MX Clear" switches on it or did you get the new linear switch with the weight that is somewhere between a Red and a Black switch? Because there is nothing wrong with the latter but it definitely is not the same as what this board uses.
The new Ducky Shine 5 does let you decide which key is going to be the function key, which I really appreciate. I would probably use the right Alt key, or maybe the right Windows key, because I do like to have the Menu key around (I know, I'm weird that way). But there's no way to just have a standard bottom row as far as I can tell; one of them has to be a function key. Also, it appears to use the actual LED for the Caps, Num and ScrLk keys as the indicator light...which I absolutely cannot stand. It looks just awful to me. This is my primary beef with my current keyboard (1st gen GMMK); the Windows key is unilluminated when the key is active.
All that being said, I'm glad you're happy with your new keyboard. :) I know everyone's priorities are different. Unfortunately it seems like the things that drove me to the Code years ago are all basically still really good arguments for getting another Code. And I appreciate you making the recommendation even if it's not a good choice for me.
Aug 29, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 29, 2017
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Anglave>tactile enough that you know you've depressed the switch
This is exactly what I'm looking for in a home keyboard, since this is basically what I have to use when I'm at work. The issue is that now I'm starting to wonder if I wouldn't be wiser simply spending $20 on the same Dell membrane keyboard rather than $140 on a keyboard that basically just gives me backlighting and the bragging rights of owning yet another mechanical keyboard, but at seven times the price... :/
Aug 29, 2017
Partyschaum
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Aug 29, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLater"[..] now I'm starting to wonder if I wouldn't be wiser simply spending $20 on the same Dell membrane keyboard rather than $140 on a keyboard that basically just gives me backlighting and the bragging rights of owning yet another mechanical keyboard, but at seven times the price."

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Aug 29, 2017
n0meh9
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Aug 29, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterhttps://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2630 Clear Cherry MX, it's all I ever get. I was so excited when there was another proper fullsize clear cherry option on the market. It seemed all the bigger manufactuers stayed away from clears for a while. I am typing on that board right now, it feels so much better than the code in my opinon.
The only keeb I won't have with clears will be the zeal pcb with LEDs I picked up a while back - where I'm waiting on some zealios switches since they don't make cherry clear with clear bases. The irony! :(
Aug 29, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 29, 2017
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n0meh9Oh, well, look at that. Can you confirm that there's a DIP switch setting that lets you use the Menu Key as Menu and the right Alt key as Fn? I see there's a black PBT backlit version as well...
Aug 29, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 29, 2017
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n0meh9Okay I've done a little more poking around and I am legit just about to pull the lever on the black backlit version of the keyboard you linked. Confirmed the DIP switches do everything I need and with dedicated lock LEDs I can't imagine the backlighting is wonky...just wish I could get positive confirmation...
Aug 29, 2017
nnc-tlb
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Aug 30, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterare you sure ? according to one_usermanual.pdf Fn is always Fn, Fn can never be Menu/Context/App(in Duckys terms). or what your sources ?
Aug 30, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 30, 2017
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Aug 30, 2017
nnc-tlb
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Aug 30, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLateryour pdf-link is a manual for other models (other SKU) !? please report back after you tested it, thx.
Aug 30, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Aug 30, 2017
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nnc-tlbI have ordered it so I will definitely let you know when it comes and I have had a chance to evaluate it. If it does not match the pictures shown on the website I will definitely dispute the purchase, but I think it will be okay.
Aug 30, 2017
nnc-tlb
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Aug 30, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterfingers crossed ...
I love to see more option, because I'm myself in the market for a full size clears w/o Fn.
Aug 30, 2017
nnc-tlb
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Sep 18, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLateryou already received your ducky ? is the bottom row like expected ? e.g. no Fn but 2x CTRL, 2x WIN, 2x ALT, 1x Context, 1x Space ?
Sep 18, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Sep 18, 2017
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nnc-tlbHi, everyone, sorry for not getting back to you sooner.
The Ducky One with white backlight and clear keys has been on my desk for about a week.
DIP switches 1-3 allow you to select any of the bottom row modifier keys to be Fn. It can even disable the Fn key altogether and allow all seven keys to be standard, but of course you'd lose access to changing the backlight and other special features.
I am very disappointed to report that the keyboard does NOT include an extra "Menu" key in the box. I have seen Ducky unboxing videos where there was one, but the specific version of the specific board I have does not have one. I have confirmed with mechanical keyboards dot com that this is normal. I might email Ducky directly and chew them out but I'm not expecting anything to come of it.
Fortunately, the Vortex POM/PBT keycap set I recently received has a Menu key which is almost a dead ringer for what Ducky should have included (same font, same height, slightly thicker weight). The problem with this is that, of course, I had plans for those caps and $30+ is a high price to pay for a single cap that is almost, but not quite, the right match.
Despite all this, I really like the keyboard. My current configuration is the borrowed cap on the Menu key and the Fn key taking over the Right Alt key. I didn't think I used that for anything, until I tried to back up five seconds in VLC, and realized I totally did. :/ I suppose I could use the Right Win key, since I don't have a lot of reasons to lock (Win-L) my personal computer. I really hate that Fn has to replace one of the standard keys. I have a use for pretty much all of them (even if the only thing I think I really use Right Ctrl for is copying with Ctrl-Ins).
At this point, I'm rambling, so let me be specific. We are referring to this keyboard: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2738
This keyboard allows you to choose which of the seven bottom row modifiers is to be replaced with Fn (including none of them). There is no matching "Menu" key in the box, which is a disappointment. If you have a Vortex PBT/POM set lying around, the Menu key is almost a perfect substitute. I am disappointed by the lack of replacement key but like the board otherwise. Mechanical keyboards are a fraught hobby. I think this is a very decent choice at $115.
And that's about it.
Sep 18, 2017
nnc-tlb
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Sep 18, 2017
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IllPickABetterUserNameLaterthx for the fast reply
Sep 18, 2017
IllPickABetterUserNameLater
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Sep 18, 2017
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nnc-tlbHere are the DIP combinations: DIP 123: 110 = RtAlt, 010 = RtWin, 100 = RtCtrl, 111 = off, 000 = Menu; 001 = LtAlt, 101 = LtWin, 011 = LtCtrl
I am currently using 110. You could leave the key caps as they are with all three DIP switches on 1 with the Fn cap serving as the Menu key...and temporarily flip switches 1, 2, or 3 to assign Fn to LtCtrl, LtWin, or RtAlt to change the lighting (or other function) settings. This doesn't require unplugging the keyboard or anything, the changes happen immediately.
Sep 18, 2017
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