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RayF
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Mar 9, 2018
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Is there no bottom to the depths MD will sink to make a buck? Wise up; smoking kills, encouraging the behavior kills your customers...
Mar 9, 2018
sdhaliwal
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Mar 12, 2018
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RayFQuit your virtue signalling, everyone is well aware of the effects of smoking, but there are clearly still people who want these products. If a business decides to serve them, then that's no sin, it's up to the customer to make their own decisions.
Mar 12, 2018
RayF
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sdhaliwalI'm with you! That's why I'm doing a bang up business selling heroine to 12-year olds on the playground--it's up to them to know better!
Mar 12, 2018
sdhaliwal
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RayFThat situation is impossible to equate with this one. The consumers on MD are all grown adults, and this isnt a product encouraging smokers. Anyone who would buy this without already having a use for it is an idiot. There's nothing wrong with providing a luxury product that equates to a steel bowl in a block of wood. Everyone knows smoking is dangerous, but guess what? Tobacco products already come with the warnings.
Mar 12, 2018
TheIzzardKing
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Mar 12, 2018
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RayFyeah, judging by your comments ray the wrong people are killing themselves.
why don't you and your high horse jump off a cliff or something?
Mar 12, 2018
RayF
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TheIzzardKingYou sound like a very defensive young person. At your age, the mind isn't completely formed and therefore what you do and say now, may embarrass you in the future--something to keep in mind, as yours continues it's path to maturity. And please don't make judgments on the hight of my "high horse"!
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Mar 12, 2018
TheIzzardKing
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Mar 12, 2018
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RayFyour opinion of my maturity is as worthless as your initial post and likely you are in general if you have the time to go around policing other peoples habits and warning the world of the dangers of smoking in random product pages of ashtrays.... maybe you should head over to amazon, sure there's plenty of ashtrays there for you to warn people about, lol.
you are a ridiculous rambling idiot,lol at least my mind still has time to form as opposed to sinking into the fogginess of senility as you apparently are.... don't get lost on the way to the fridge gramps.
edit: how much do you want to bet this guy is a so called liberal?
Mar 12, 2018
RayF
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Mar 12, 2018
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TheIzzardKingWell spoken Comrade Bot-Nik!
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I've just donated $50 to the Sanders-Warren campaign in your name!
Mar 12, 2018
TheIzzardKing
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Mar 13, 2018
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RayFlol. nailed it.
pretty sure it's your lot that's the commie socialist, i mean you were upset that massdrop was selling something you personally didn't approve of and felt the need to lecture us all about it, bet if it was up to you we couldn't smoke at all eh? you little hitler wanna be. lol.
oh and donated $50 to the NRA.
I'm an independent by the way, i like screwing with both of you idiots.lol.
Mar 13, 2018
RayF
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Mar 13, 2018
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TheIzzardKingOh, OH--and we are so feeling the pain!!! Fortunately I've still got my Obama Care to patch me up when the going gets ruff!
PS: Jim Morrison called and he want's his nick name back.
Mar 13, 2018
TheIzzardKing
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RayFwell glad i and other upstanding and hard working individuals can have the honor of supporting your loser ass, if you have access to the ACA what the fuck are doing on massdrop buying expensive shit you don't need?
lol, typical leftist, i bet you're typing this on your obamphone right after you ordered a $800 pair of headphones.
P.S. that's my actual name you dumb ass... or should i tell you to give ray charles his name back? lol, idiot.
Mar 13, 2018
RayF
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Mar 13, 2018
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TheIzzardKingWell if Dumb-Ass really is your actual name, I'd say your parents were bloody Clairvoyant! Or did you mean that "Izzard King" thing? In that case I'd just say they were creative, but what's in a name anyway? At least they didn't call you Lion King, right?!
And while we're on the subject of lying kings, let me help clarify a few misconceptions knuckle-dragging, alt-right folks of your ilk tend to labor under (despite the abundance of available facts to the contrary). Shall we begin?
First, a short test: do you know the difference between an Apple and a Banana? Yeah, I din't think so. Never mind, we'll just have to muddle through with whatever grey matter you woke up with this morning.
Here we go!
Assuming they don't recieve health insurance benefits from an employer, anyone can purchase health insurance through the ACA. The bit you're referring to is the subsidy one may qualify for to pay the premium, which depends on income.
Here's how that actually works: Individuals earning between $15,302 and $46, 021 can qualify for a discount, as can families earning between $31,155 and $93,700. Subsidies are available up to 400% of the poverty line for individuals and families on a sliding scale based on income. Works for me, because I'm self-employed :- )
As for your "Obama phone" misnomer, here's a few facts to chew on: The Lifeline program originated in 1984, during the administration of Ronald Reagan; it was expanded in 1996, during the administration of Bill Clinton; and its first cellular provider service (SafeLink Wireless) was launched by TracFone in 2008, during the administration of George W. Bush. All of these milestones were passed prior to the advent of the Obama administration. :- )
And my phone of choice? An iPhone 8 Plus, of course--Space Grey, if you must know! Got the cool matching watch too--lets me take calls even when I leave my phone behind--pretty sure Obama invented that technology ;- )
As for that bit about me buying an $800 set of headphones--well, that's mystery to me (maybe you got that on Info Wars?). Truth is, I've ordered two pair--both around two hundred bucks or less. I would never spend $800 on headphones!
Of course, when Bernie Sanders is elected, and he starts handing out free, government--subsidized, $800 headphones to every registered Democrat, well--you can bet I'll be in that line!
Say...didn't I see you at that rally?
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Mar 13, 2018
TheIzzardKing
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Mar 14, 2018
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RayFJesus Christ, i'm just flipping you shit you psycho. lol
Mar 14, 2018
RayF
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Mar 14, 2018
Dumb_F_Leftists
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RayFI already have my ash trays by StinkyCigar. But just because you find it necessary to make dumb-ass shaming comments I'm going to request for this drop to come around again so i can buy one. I'm sure you're A-OK with smoking weed, but cigars! OMG you're gonna die man!! Grow up, douche.
Mar 26, 2018
RayF
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Dumb_F_LeftistsNo, actually I’m not; lungs don’t care for either type of smoke. Not sure what your particular hand-mouth issue is, but chances are good, smoking will eventually cure it!
Mar 26, 2018
rayce444
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Jun 9, 2018
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RayFYou're a schmuck, Ray....get TF off this web site and bitch somewhere else. You sound like a metrosexual with mommy issues. FO!!!
Jun 9, 2018
RayF
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rayce444You type/sound like a fourteen year-old with a flip phone, but I'm guessing you're a little older and just got left behind a couple of grades? Still, I bet you often reminisce: "High School--those were the best seven years of my life!" Well don't you fret about it; when it comes to this particular drop, we don't check ID's or IQs!!!
I gotta admit; each time MD cycles through this one, I meet some some of the most interesting invertebrates on the internet--and I'm bet'n you're going to be no exception! So, pull up a coloring book, my chubby little, millennial basement-dweller and we'll get to know each other!
Jun 9, 2018
rayce444
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RayFYou can postulate from the multitude of missives left for you like so many scat turds you'd find on a hike. NO ONE here appreciates you or thinks you cogent nor intelligent. You're the basement dweller and loser pretending to be someone you're not. You're afraid of your own shadow and not much of a man...more of a coward with an elektra complex. Oh, BTW....I'm a college professor with more degrees than your tiny baby brain could comprehend. Go back to your "Stormer" web site where you can pretend to be such a macho man. You probably wear Depends and have calluses on your knees. Loser ass wipe.
Jun 9, 2018
RayF
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rayce444College professor?!! Oh yeah? Well I'm a Nuclear Physicist and I invented Scotch Tape and and Microwave Dinners! I discovered three black holes and two new planets when I was in the eighth grade--and I have a flying car in my garage--no, TWO of 'em!! And I'm president of the Boy-Genius Club at MIT and I have Bill Gates' number on speed dial--and my Dad can kick your Dad's ass any day of the week! So there!!!
(Damn I'm thinking I may have met this particular College Professor on the playground a few decades ago?)
Jun 9, 2018
sdhaliwal
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Jun 9, 2018
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RayFThis is a garbage conversation that has nothing to do with the drop anymore, and I don’t want to see it blowup my notifications on here. Can massdrop please do some moderation of this comment section? Trolls are just going to drive away actual customers.
Jun 9, 2018
rayce444
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RayFMASSDROP.....you guys need to thoroughly read ALL of "Ray Friedman's" posts and see for yourself that this miscreant is nothing more than a troll. He picks fights with people he shouldn't and is obviously disturbed and compensating for his lack of intelligence. "sdhaliwal" is correct.....this IS a garbage conversation and there is NO PLACE for his bullshit. Get him off MD!!!
Jun 9, 2018
RayF
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Jun 9, 2018
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sdhaliwalOh stop it--you're making me think I might actually save a life or two here! Hey, speaking of your discomfort, I wonder if you have the same consideration for people that don't like the smoke or smell from your cigars? Chances are pretty damn good you've offended more innocent bystanders than my little cautionary comments. And may I add, my original comments were directed soley at Massdrop, not the oxygen-deprived, cigar chompers MD was targeting with the drop. Everything after that, was just me making new friends, like you!
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Buy the way, I can assure you I have my many overseers here at MD (mostly watching to make sure I don't break anything) but if you're feeling especially aggrieved, the guy you want to talk to is Duncan, a nice fellow from the great white North who oversees this wing of the asylum--he's always happy to hear from an actual customer!
Here's his home number: https://www.massdrop.com/profile/Duncan
Jun 9, 2018
RayF
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rayce444Hey wait a minute, weren't you just tell'n me you were a College Professor? Now it turns out you're really Campus Police? I feel betrayed. Guess I should have known something was up from the "...postulate from the multitude of missives..." comment--way too many syllables for a college man!
So tell me, Mr. Righteously Indignant, did it ever occur to you to just buy your "Colibri Windsor Ashtray, complete with Removable Cigar Stand" (an excellent value at only $99.99--while they last) and just ignore my comments? I have a suspicion many people do--you know, all the adults in room?
Or maybe you were hoping to meet a future ex-wife in an ashtray discussion group, and you're pissed because I scared all the good-looking girls away?
Here's a suggestion, if you don't like my comments, you know what you can do with 'em!
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Jun 9, 2018
sdhaliwal
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RayFRay, I'm sure you have your misgivings about smoking and tobacco products, but the fact of the matter is that an ashtray isn't going to make or break it for anyone who already smokes, nor is it going to make anyone pick up smoking. Also, no one is going to be out and about smoking while carrying around an ashtray, this is clearly for private use, which is going to be away from anyone who doesn't want to be exposed to smoking. MD has no moral obligation to police their customers habits or to refrain from selling things customers want to buy. If the drop did poorly, they wouldn't sell it again. This conversation has taken away from the comments and anyone with actual questions or curiosity about the product is going to have a hard time finding answers in this bloated mess of an argument.
Jun 9, 2018
RayF
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sdhaliwalOkay, I feel your pain. Here's a link for curious seekers of ashtray enlightenment: http://www.colibri.com/windsor-ashtray.html
Jun 9, 2018
Usernameforaday
Jun 10, 2018
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rayce444I honestly have walked away from many drops because I get sick of this bullshit. I read the "discussion" thinking it will be actual reviews about a specific product never is. Since when is smoking bad for us?
Jun 10, 2018
RayF
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Usernameforaday"Since when is smoking bad for us?"
Since forever, actually but the Surgeon General's report that finally and officially reported the truth about the "bad for us" bit came out in 1964. Guessing that was w-a-y before you were born, but the subject might have been covered in Health Class--assuming you attended school in this country (or at all), but incase any of that escaped your attention, it's printed on the package in most countries (as required by law).
Now that we've cleared up your bullshit concerns, which actually turned out to be your own ignorance of commonly known facts most eight-year olds could have hipped you to, lets move on to my concerns ;- )
When you used the term "honestly" were you intending to imply you were actually being honest, or did you just add that part for the dramatic irony? When you say you've walked away from many drops, could you put a number on that? Many is such a vague term and judging from your Drop history, it either means you've walked away from every Drop MD ever had, except for that headphone stand you bought, or it means you've only walked away from drops where someone pointed the health risks associated with the product--so, you know, you should clear that part up--just say'n.
And that part about the reviews you feel were MIA from the drop's comment section? That's because no one left them, not because I typed over them. You should be pissed at all the guys who bought this thing, and then thoughtlessly used it, without telling you how great it worked (or you know, didn't)--not me, I'm the innocent one here. Hell, if I bought one, I'd have left a review. I didn't buy one, but if I did, my review might have gone something like this:
Okay, I bought this ashtray on Amazon and paid a lot more for it, and I hate it because every time I use it, I significantly increase my risk of Oral Cancer, and I "contribute to the deaths of 5.6 million children alive today, who will ultimately die early from smoking if (I) do not do more to reduce current smoking rates.* " So, would I buy it again? Probably not.
* https://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/reports/50-years-of-progress/index.html
Jun 10, 2018
Broody
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Jun 10, 2018
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rayce444yep, this Ray Friedman shitheel is the key reason massdrop needs to have the option to block users. The guy is so needy for confrontation and validation that goes back to endorse his own comments, surely no one else will. Guy is a very dedicated and particularly heinous troll.
Jun 10, 2018
RayF
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BroodyJudging you by the company you keep ;- )
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Jun 10, 2018
Verwilderd
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RayFDumb. Educate yourself. Puffing a cigar isn’t the same as smoking a cigarette. Are there drawbacks? Sure...but the same goes for sugar, caffeine, alcohol etc. In fact, those are much more deadly for a greater number of people. I certainly hope you avoid all those. Otherwise...hypocrite much?
Jun 10, 2018
RayF
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VerwilderdAs I mentioned above, any kid with a third or forth grade education would be happy to point out that on that particular point, you are most certainly full of shit. But If you don't believe them, check with your local Health Department, the Surgeon General, the CDC, your Dentist or the warning on the box your cigars came in:
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Especially that last bit about: "Even if you do not inhaled"
What you're doing here, by the way, is called "rationalizing" and "deflecting"--two terms that essentially mean you're not being honest with yourself. That makes you sound weak.
Now, if you were to say something more like..."I know cigars (like any other tobacco product) put me at a significantly higher risk for a whole heap of bad things, but I just don't give a good-god-damn about it"-- Well, then you'd sound better-informed, while effecting a sort of "devil-may-care" attitude on the subject--you know, kinda James Bond-ish? Now there was guy who smoked ever one his custom-made cigarettes as if it might be his last--and for good reason. But unless you're in a line of work where life expectancy pre-empts collecting Social Security, I wouldn't stay on that tac too long. I mention that because it's hard say'n longer sentences in general, through those little vibrators that you hold up to your neck (you know, like where your larynx used to be?) in order for folks to hear you speak.
Just a thought...
Jun 10, 2018
Verwilderd
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Jun 11, 2018
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RayFIf you’re so upset, why are you even on this conversation posting?
If you reread read what I wrote, I acknowledge that it isn’t 100% safe. I also mention other items that people consume in far greater quantities and thus have a higher likelihood to cause damage.
And no, puffing on a cigar is not the same as smoking a cigarette. There are far less carcinogens in cigars than cigarettes. Additionally, having good oral hygenie an counter much. again, is it 100% risk free? No. But there are many other things that we all do daily that are worse. If you occasionally enjoy a cigar, your risks are super high.
Jun 11, 2018
RayF
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VerwilderdMy friend, I've read your posts and I've listened to each of the points you've raised. After careful consideration, I've reached two conclusions: one, you're fourteen and using a phone you're mother pays for, and two, you're a fucking idiot. My advice to you: "smoke 'em if you've got 'em"
Jun 11, 2018
Verwilderd
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RayFI’m fourteen and enjoy cigars? How many fourteen-year-olds do you see smoking cigars? These are not cheap. If I’m fourteen and smoking, I’m going to find a cheaper and easier way to smoke. So nice try on the insults. If you’re going to throw insults, try making them more relevant.
Jun 11, 2018
RayF
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VerwilderdQuite right--what I meant to say was: a grown man with the brains of a 14yr old.
Jun 11, 2018
Usernameforaday
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RayFApparently little slow on the up take. Thanks for the report but it's called sarcasm! Everybody knows it's bad we don't need you telling us lol. Smh
Jun 11, 2018
RayF
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UsernameforadayOh? Sarcasm was it? Well that's good to know, for a minute I was afraid you weren't very bright. You'll have to excuse me--you can't swing a dead cat on this thread without hitting a Neanderthal or two. So tell me bright-boy, why didn't address the question I raised about all those drops you walked away from because of too many BS comments rather than reviews? Frankly, that was the more frightening track--dying of cancer maybe your choice, but threatening to bring down the mighty MD by withholding your participation? Now that could put all of us at risk!
Jun 11, 2018
Usernameforaday
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RayFYou sound like a really smart and cool guy can we be friends? I'm trying really hard to type this slow. Let me know if I need to start over. Busy day at work today? Pm me let's talk.
Jun 11, 2018
Usernameforaday
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UsernameforadaySorry I assumed your gender please don't get triggered.
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RayF
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UsernameforadaySure we can be friends--who said we weren't? No hard feelings--this stuff's all bullshit (to a point). No idea how to PM!
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RayF
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UsernameforadayWell lets hope you assumed correctly--no need for any confusion on that fact!
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Duncan
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RayFMakin' friends again, Ray?
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RayF
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DuncanDidn't you tell me you were pay'n five-bucks for every heart-warming, happy-face moment I turned in? I'll be rake'n in the dough...
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Duncan
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RayFPlay nice. You don't need to agree with what we're selling, but I'm gettin' too many calls about domestic disturbances here.
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RayF
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DuncanWell, if you promise to put that cigar out...
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Duncan
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RayFDeal.
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RayF
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DuncanCute!
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Verwilderd
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RayFIt’s real cute watching you try to save your insult since your argument falls on its face.
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Duncan
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VerwilderdWherever this conversation has gotten to, it'd be best if it ends now.
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NewType88
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DuncanDo you have a gif for every occasion ?
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Duncan
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DuncanThis pleases me.
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