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K.T.N
1264
Nov 23, 2015
Boy, if this were the Compact TKL model with clears, I'd be all over it.
Clears are strange. My first encounter with them was in a V60 that I got at Massdrop. I hated the switches at first - very heavy, mushy, fatiguing. I hated the tired feeling I'd get after repeated bottoming out on that increasingly heavy force curve as I'd reach the bottom of the stroke.
I ended up putting O rings on them and that made a huge difference. I enjoyed the tactility at top of the stroke, and the O ring would arrest the stroke before it got to the extra heavy, fatiguing bottom of the stroke.
After that, I now really like them. Still not my favorite feel - they still have a heavy spring feel to them that isn't as crisp as I like, but they're tactile, punchy, and accurate, and my hands don't get fatigued as they once did.
Interestingly, I later got two Poker 3s, both with clears and the heavy aluminum case. Wow, these clears feel different. In one board, they feel tactile, but much lighter and less springy feeling than those in the V60. Much closer to the "more tactile brown switch" that they often are described as. On this one I could type happily and fatigue free even without O rings.
The clears on my second Poker 3 falls somewhere in between the overly springy and heavy feel of the V60 and tactile and light feel of those in my other Poker 3.
I wonder if the heavy aluminum case may have some bearing on the better feel of clears in the Poker 3. If so, clears should be great in the DAS, as it's a solid, heavy tank of a board.
RMaxim
186
Nov 23, 2015
K.T.NThis drop is for BOTH the Das 4 Ultimate and the Das 4c Ultimate. You choose which version you want. The 4c is an 87-key "tenkeyless" version that normally comes with Greetech switches but will come with Cherry MX Clears in this drop. Get all over it.
K.T.N
1264
Nov 24, 2015
RMaximDid someone say DAS TKL with clears? I'm in!
Elrick
2105
Nov 24, 2015
K.T.NSame here, couldn't resist since they finally saw the light and went back to using authentic REAL Cherry MX switches instead of cheap-arse copies.
Navas
32
Nov 24, 2015
ElrickThe greetech was odd, to be honest. I could never get over the "scratch-iness" of them. I love the feel of browns. Greens are my daily drivers but they're getting noisy in the office. I think clears should cover that aspect in terms of noise reduction and tactility, in the absence of browns
Elrick
2105
Nov 24, 2015
NavasWhen I get my 4C - TKL version here, shall be filling them with a GMK set and then you'll have the next perfect keyboard using all authentic Clears, what more could you want?
DanielFerrer
391
Nov 24, 2015
Elrick@Elrick, what about asking for USB3.0? as it appears the TKL version has just USB2 so it is nearly as useless as the USB HUB in a HHKB... tell me if I am wrong please. I like this KB, but the increment in size with respect to normal TKL is supposed to be due to the fact of having a real HUB for USB3.0, not this. My opinion.
GearWhore
32
Nov 24, 2015
DanielFerrerYou can plug one of those useless USB powered fans into it!
Elrick
2105
Nov 25, 2015
DanielFerrerThe ONLY reason why I would use USB 3.0 is with an external hard drive and that is already connected to my PCs up top.
USB 2.0 is for the millions of mice that are available. Hence I don't get why you need to have USB 3.0 on a keyboard because there is NOT a single mouse made anywhere that is able to use it?
Encounter
3
Nov 25, 2015
ElrickUSB 3.0 flash drives are very common. That's primarily what I use my keyboard's ports for.
DanielFerrer
391
Nov 25, 2015
ElrickI meant that there is a physical inefficiency in placing that hub on the left side, as it makes the TKL bigger than without, so this should be for a usb3 at least.
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