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Bobraz
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Apr 21, 2018
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@Fauropitotto @Vodran @artiii26 A lot of these expensive tops that you call $2 trinkets, are in fact made by independent makers, with traditional and fairly manual methods. I'm not saying this one is one of those; merely that in the world of tops, as for many other thing (watches, knives, glassware, clothes, shoes, furniture, and ad nauseam) there are cheaper mass produced items, and, yes, truly more premium items.
Don't diss something just because you ignore its provenance and the way it has been made, you're just assuming - probably wrongly - that it's cheap mass produced stuff. Same way you can't compare a $600 kitchen knife made by a knifesmith to a $2 one made by a machine in Vietnam, you probably can't compare a $2 top to these $80 ones. And before you jump one me, yes I do acknowledge that in this world, there are indeed $2 products that have been sold for $200 (ever heard about the pet rock trend in the 70's?) so indeed caveat emptor (hey that's two Latin quotes in two paragraphs! 😜)...
Educate yourself, look further than just the surface, learn about stuff then meaningfully contribute to the discussion. I guarantee it's more fun that poking fun at things aimlessly!
Have fun with your top! ;-)
Apr 21, 2018
artiii26
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Apr 21, 2018
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BobrazI just did. It's called discernment. I know what a lathe does. I know how long it would take to hand make...BTDT. I produce items also. I am very good at determine price of quality. $80...you smoke crak. Maybe $40 and I still wouldn't pay that much. A TRUE 100% HAND MADE .... $200 for a collector easy.
Apr 21, 2018
Bobraz
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Apr 21, 2018
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artiii26I don't know if it's like smoking crack. I studied Industrial Design back in the day, and I know about lathe work and finishing, etc. without branding myself as an absolute authority on the matter. I'm honest enough to call it out.
However armed with my knowledge, what I'm seeing is that this price is in line with most independently produced tops. Either every single one of those independent maker is a crook and overcharges, or this $80 is pretty much a honest price, when you produce something in a small shop, and take into account all kinds of ancillary costs, and still need to make some profit (hey the guy or gal has to feeds the family right)?
So smoking crack? Perhaps not.
Apr 21, 2018
artiii26
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Apr 21, 2018
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BobrazI apologize for disagreeing with you. But, I build and buy for a living. I build and buy Units for refineries, hotels, gas stations, ...... from bolts, washers and screws up. Ran and performed skilled work all my life. You are right. You feel better?
Apr 21, 2018
Bobraz
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Apr 21, 2018
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artiii26Why apologize, I was having a discussion with you. You're in the discussion area, you know, for civilized arguments and discussions. I wasn't trolling, I was genuinely interested.
Apr 21, 2018
Vodran
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Apr 21, 2018
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BobrazI don’t need to educate myself I’m not the one paying $80 for a top.
Apr 21, 2018
Chaser-1
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Apr 21, 2018
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VodranThen why are you here? If it doesn't appeal to you, just move along. No need to insult the people who enjoy these type of things.
Apr 21, 2018
Dalton_Bissell
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DB Tops
Apr 22, 2018
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BobrazWonderfully said. #Standingovation
Apr 22, 2018
Vodran
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Apr 22, 2018
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Chaser-1I’m here to express my opinion about a mass drop that was emailed to me. If it’s a rip off I’ll say so and if you don’t like it you can stop reading my comments.
Apr 22, 2018
artiii26
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May 11, 2018
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Chaser-1I hoped to help a human NOT spend FOOLISH money. I have AND MAKE better knifes than you can manufactor. I live here C'mon.... So sorry. You don't...YOU overpay. BUT WE. WE. WE. need to turn attention to ALIexpress...Wish.com. dhgate.com. and other Chinese over producers. They are selling steel cheap...sv35n...9cr18mov...
You people wouldn't know United States steel (ps. A hint cause your stupid) if I put in your rectum. Try starting with OUR STEEL... FOR NOW...IT'S GONNA START WITH CEEE.PEEEE.MMMMM. (CPM) PLEASE UPDATE ME?!? I'm stupid too. Think I have no nuts? Apezattic@gmail.com. I love blades. So let's have good conversation! If you are a pussy...don't ask me...ask yourself. I'm here for the steel..
I'm sorry. But at the last comment? I say: "Prejudice will commit it's own suicide"
And Vodron PLEASE O' PLEASE LET ME DESIGN YOUR NEXT CAR OR HOUSE. I GOT CLAP FROM A FEMALE DIESEL MECHANIC. AND MY SPERM IS MORE INTELLIGENT THAN YOU.
May 11, 2018
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