wildviper@wildviper buying rapper brand crap - cough beats - or other crap brand crap is nuts. this is still mid tier, just under reference grade, which imho is the best, you want nuts? That would be the guy walking around with dre's pro's. <br /><br /> @timc the demons like a clean smooth dac more then an amp, and that amp is basic, rather invest a good dac/amp combo like a yulong d100. Or in your budget, a fiio e17.