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kkt45
Mar 23, 2017
it amazes me that any joker with a machine shop (or access to one) can get a slot on massdrop and dupe you people into buying a kids toy thats been around hundreds of years..
Miguel_Sanchez
359
Mar 23, 2017
kkt45it amazes me that any joker with a machine shop (or access to one) can get a slot on massdrop and dupe you people into buying a sharpened tool thats been around thousands of years..
lobster
687
Mar 23, 2017
kkt45No one is being duped. I don't have a machine shop or metal 3D printer to make my own. If you had come up with the design and execution, then you would be getting the money rather than someone else, and I doubt you would call yourself a fool or feel remorse in that situation for "duping" your customers. Lastly, the second half of your sentence just bothers me because it lacks logic: the fact that it is a toy and has been around for thousands (not hundreds) of years has no relevance. Do those two facts negate it's monetary value? Even if the concept of a top is old, I still don't have one, I don't have this one, and I still want one--maybe because of the very fact that tops are interesting enough to have survived for thousands of years.
theSchlauf
10
Mar 23, 2017
kkt45Who exactly is being duped? Anyone who buys this already knows this is a toy. That does not automatically make it a waste of money. If someone will find enjoyment out of this and can afford it I say more power to them.
dabolina
7
Mar 23, 2017
kkt45 deff awesome tho I've never seen an air assisted spin top before. Give the guy credit....and maybe ppl ARE buying this for the little ones...
dabolinaThank you.
Kaan
297
Mar 23, 2017
kkt45it amazes me how stupid you are
BlueCrowned
5305
Mar 23, 2017
dabolinai'm not sure i would give a child something that costs nearly $100
Miguel_Sanchez
359
Mar 24, 2017
BlueCrownedYet everywhere you go you see kids and even toddlers with $500+ smartphones watching some loud cartoon while the parent enjoys a few moments of not dealing with them.
Miguel_Sanchez
359
Mar 24, 2017
KaanDoesn't surprise me when I saw the Confederate flag as his avatar.
BlueCrowned
5305
Mar 24, 2017
Miguel_SanchezWell I don't have or want kids, so I can't relate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
dabolina
7
Mar 25, 2017
BlueCrowned^ this.......still that thing is cool!
M.a.v
147
Mar 26, 2017
I was interested in your product before I read this. Obviously I don't know the aforementioned individuals motivation, but not everyone that hoists a confederate flag is a racist, nor a unintelligent backwards hick. Some just celebrate their heritage and/or use the display to honor their fellow countryman's sacrifice. I don't choose to fly the Confederate battle flag, but I also do not support bigoted owners.
Miguel_Sanchez
359
Mar 26, 2017
M.a.vFree speech works both ways. If they want to spread their heritage of leaving the union, commuting treason, and causing a civil war, I can call them out on their bs.
kkt45
Mar 29, 2017
Miguel_Sancheztool / toy
lobster
687
Mar 29, 2017
M.a.vI don't think you or the majority of southerners who choose to fly the confederate flag are overtly racist or unintelligent. I think you should be able to fly the flag if you want to. Just understand what the flag means to other people if you choose to fly it or support people exercising this right. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage or honoring your fellow countryman's sacrifice. But in the context of the confederate flag and the civil war, the heritage that you speak of is not just states rights and southern culture. The heritage was the right to own slaves and the sacrifices made by the men who fought for the south were rooted in preserving this heritage. In an even more modern context, the confederate flag regained popularity after adoption by the dixiecrates who argued against desegregation. I won't even go into adoption of the confederate flag by white supremacists except to say they chose it for a reason.
When I read your post I think I can see your side. I can see many southerners do not understand why the confederate flag is offensive. The same logic can be applied to any German who is not racist, but wants to celebrate their Nazi heritage as simply a truth of their history and acknowledge the sacrifice of their countryman during WWII. That's fine. They could fly the swastika if they feel like this serves to accomplish this goal, and they should have the right to do so. But they should be ready to defend the criticism at the same time.
I think you can honor the bravery of men willing to die for a cause, while still acknowledging the flaw in their reasoning. But when you fly a flag, the people around you won't understand this nuance.
This top is awesome even if it is expensive. I wonder which is more efficient the tornado or the other top that was offered a couple weeks ago--the one you can blow on to start the spin.
Yeptx
20
Jul 17, 2019
Miguel_SanchezWhy don't you leave your SJW bs out of the hobbyist forum.