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naterw
294
Feb 15, 2017
Price seems steep for Chinese made jeans.
its_sandman
4
Feb 15, 2017
naterwI don't know if this makes you feel better, but check out their AMA on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/rawdenim/comments/32rds9/we_are_doublewood_denim_ask_us_anything/
TomasV
1685
Feb 15, 2017
naterwHi Naterw! You have to look at fabrication details, fabric, and finishing quality (how well the jeans are sewn and constructed). Please see my previous reply to Alee.G, i've addressed this point.
naterw
294
Feb 15, 2017
TomasVI'm sure they are, but chinese labor doesn't speak to quality, it speaks to trying to get the cheapest labor possible.
TomasV
1685
Feb 15, 2017
naterwYour take on Chinese labor not speaking to quality i think is part of a much longer and bigger discussion. In this case, the vendor Doublewood is California-based of Chinese-descent, and the factory they work with is a family friend operation that focuses on high quality, small batch production. It's not a decision made purely out of costing, but operational and quality control based as well.
asvarughese
33
Feb 18, 2017
naterwIf you're comparing these to something like the Levi's in Macy's, they're the wrong pair of jeans to compare to.
These jeans are using denim made in Japan, which aside from being the most respected manufacturer of denim in the world, is also a first world country, meaning you're paying for skilled labor.
As for construction, it has hidden rivets, which you really only see in higher end jeans, but increases durability.  They went out of their way to use a different thread color for the inseam, which increases costs, since they have to go through all the extra effort to change the thread, instead of just using the same thread, which saves time and money, something not many higher end jeans have.  They used a vintage machine to chainstitch the hem, so there would be roping, like in higher end jeans.  The back pockets are fully lined with fabric, so there's more costs, as well as improved durability, which you only see in higher end jeans.  The front pockets are silkscreened, which while unnecessary, gives you some nice graphics, and lets you know which jean in the limited production run of that batch you got, once again something you really only see in higher end jeans.  They also make use of a crotch rivet, which is rare even in high end, although not unheard of, and increases durability.  They also cut the right back pocket on the selvage, which can increase wasted fabric, since they choose to always have that pocket show selvage.  They even tuck their belt loops under the waistband, which improves construction, something that a number of high end jeans don't do, not because they can't, but because they're emulating the construction details of American jeans in the past.
A lot of this might seem unnecessary, but as you go higher end, attention to detail is what separates brands.  Them going out of their way to do a lot of these things is them showing you that they have enough pride in what they do to do things that maybe only you, or even only they will see.
naterw
294
Feb 18, 2017
asvarugheseI don't buy any clothing/knives/watches made in China. For clothing usually only American made denim. I wish Levi made jeans in the US besides the red tab, but they went for cheapness. I spend a lot on my clothes, but I like knowing the people making the clothing get paid well and don't undercut American makers.
Why not not just have the jeans made in Japan?
asvarughese
33
Feb 18, 2017
naterwThat's pretty cool that you're putting that much thought into your purchases, I've been doing that for a little while now as well.
As as for why not made in Japan, I think Doublewood posted about their reasons for working with this manufacuter in a past post.