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WASpp
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Nov 26, 2016
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So, before I joined the drop... I want to know whether 3 leg cherry, gateron switch will be compatible with this model I would join if it is
Nov 26, 2016
Oxides
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Nov 28, 2016
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WASppNOT compatible with gateron, cherry, etc
Nov 28, 2016
WASpp
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Nov 28, 2016
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Oxideswait what? if its not compatiable with basically no other switch what is the purpose of calling this "hot-swappable"
Nov 28, 2016
Oxides
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Nov 28, 2016
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WASppMine came with 5 spares and works with those. It "should" work with other Outemu's. I haven't seen SMD Outemu switches for sale anywhere, only the ones with black bases and the tiny holes for the LED leads. But, it also "should" have worked with gateron/cherry..... Its a shame because otherwise the hardware design/quality is good for the price.
Nov 28, 2016
Caiz
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Feb 4, 2017
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WASppWhile 5 spares might not seem like much initially, fellow, think of it this way not only do you have five spares, but you also have hot swapping.
Which means you can move a key, from say a lesser used key on the keyboard, like from an unused function key, into the spot of your most used key.. And you can also likely change key switch type within the keyswitch series, i suspect(and maybe cherry springs and or other switch parts).
So suddenly, you have much more going on here, and where the switches promise 50 million keystrokes, even if they fall short of that, you can move the switches around.
And not only that, but between you and I think that some of the parts, like the spring, must be interchangeable with cherry mx keyswitches, or at least the other switches in the OTM or maybe the Gaote PG150 switch series. Because I think these switches are a variant of the Gaote PG150Q11 switch.. no? Or is the OTM series completely incompatible with the PG150 series..? I suspect they likely share some kind of interoperability..
I think i seen those Gaote switches on ebay, 20 of them on a numpad for about 5 bucks, free shipping.. So, not only do you have a platform, where you can swap in keys up and around, but also there is a flood of these switches one can acquire inexpensively. Now, what does a traditional cherry board offer in comparison? For over 30 years in the keyboard business? A non-user serviceable board with eventual un-serviceable wear patterns.. Though i might be mistaken on that numpad, it could have been a different make.. if you really like and are quick i might be able to pull up the link.. for five chickens, a bag of barley, and a goat.
Now, I think it would be fare to say that the consumer keyboard market has grown, however and I'm not saying this keyboard is some sort, of grail, and I find it very displeasing the choice to have the pin configuration different from the cherry, and has me wonder why this was done, this must have been deliberate, and if maybe cherry threatened with a suit on some pin patent, or if someone is trying to make this product more restrictive so as to be subtly more expensive, in some fashion.. However I think the board brings alot to the table, and as an early example of it's kind, offering something most didn't bother to offer customers, a semi-servicable product(no replacement pcb..), as a welcome and competitive addition to the market..
Feb 4, 2017
Caiz
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Feb 4, 2017
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OxidesYeah, i agree, big shame there! But do you suppose some parts are swappable, like springs and upper-housings, maybe with the some guy fr below seems to think so. While 5 spares might not seem like much initially, fellow, think of it this way not only do you have five spares, but you also have hot swapping. Which means you can move a key, from say a lesser used key on the keyboard, like from an unused function key, into the spot of your most used key.. And you can also likely change key switch type within the keyswitch series, i suspect(and maybe cherry springs and or other switch parts). So suddenly, you have much more going on here, and where the switches promise 50 million keystrokes, even if they fall short of that, you can move the switches around. And not only that, but between you and I think that some of the parts, like the spring, must be interchangeable with cherry mx key-switches, or at least the other switches in the OTM or maybe the Gaote PG150 switch series, or maybe some PG150 parts first...? Because I think these switches are a variant of the Gaote PG150Q11 switch.. no? Or is the OTM series completely incompatible with the PG150 series..? I suspect they likely share some kind of interoperability.. Interesting product i think we can both agree, still. I think i seen those Gaote switches on ebay, 20 of them on a numpad for about 5 bucks, free shipping.. I could be mistaken.. But if so, not only do you have a platform, where you can swap in keys up and around, but also there is a flood of these switches one can acquire inexpensively.. Now, what does a traditional cherry board offer in comparison? For over 30 years in the keyboard business? A non-user serviceable board with eventual un-serviceable wear patterns.. I've also seen snapped mx stems online picture(s). However, there is more to a switch i think then longevity of investment. like consistency, for example and whatnot, of course. However, some of that comes down to the spring, doesn't it? So for the price, if we have some of old springs around, one might wonder whats left to be gained by switching the cherry, with all that there is to loose.. Maybe it all comes down to contact plate and leaf.. So yeah, shame they didnt use mx compatible switch eh. I think we ca agree that thi is a bit of a niche product, but if it were mx compatible i might go so far as to call it a game changer, at the price.. really! I seen a tenkeyles variant for even less.. That pin configuration is now really displeasing me.. and with no statement from e-element as to how and why..
Feb 4, 2017
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