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chan_emu
511
Mar 23, 2016
Apart from technical analysis, the listening test is crucial but always highly subjective .
Following are our observations and recommandations
Teak Signature
- Gentle V-shaped signature - Improved bass response, responsive, fast decay - improved upper mid-region to reduce siblance - Wider staging, better layering
Suitable genres Vocals, Jazz, Orchestra, Pop, Folk
Ebony and Rosewood Signature - V-shaped siganature, faithful to the original Foster design - Tight, powerful bass response at low-mid bass region - Gentle forward vocal-centric presentation - Energetic and lively high frequency response
Suitable genres Rock, EDM, Indie, Folk, Hip-hop, R&B
Sagacious
124
Mar 23, 2016
chan_emuDespite being subjective it confirms my initial guess. "Teak- Improved bass response, responsive, fast decay" More typical for a properly tuned sealed chamber for woofers.
Rosewood /Ebony- Tight, powerful bass response at low-mid bass region Typical of a too small of a box giving a boomy resonance.
(very likely subtle differences but the principals apply) On the other hand the TEAK: - improved upper mid-region to reduce siblance - Wider staging, better layering
Implies either a reflective chamber causing peaks and nodes that might be perceived as "more midrange/soundstage". (can also be achieved by Parametric Eq) Or it also implies possibly the hearing of the TEAK wood itself being it is thin it might resonant at midrange frequencys. The ole in hand thump the chamber with your finger to hear its sonic "character" influence.
The "Teak" might need some reflective dampening but it is nice that there is more Room to do so. Slight V signature sounds about right though.
If it wasn't for the reputation of the Fostex drivers, I would be the first to criticize the manufacturer "Project leader" for not providing a minimal frequency plot for a $450 piece of audio gear as anyone can buy 10 "CALS" for that. (My general criticism of All high end audio gear not providing enough testing data ) For at most a $1000 could get a headphone properly tested on a model head independently or less if "in house". Honestly it seems testing should help dictate the design versus just slapping on some "Wood" shells on a fostex existing design. I thought a large conglomerate corporation would have it in its budget to do so let alone to offer more competitive pricing. It seems subjectively they don't anticipate selling more than a couple thousand units. So this seems like a niche product unlike the CAL's My guess is if they sold at the $200 range they would sell 10 times as many. Well I guess that it is why it is under the EMU badge versus the "Creative" name. Yes I am very familiar with EMU, Bought a few of EMU Samplers in the 90's early days, I always went by the EMU booth at NAMM to see what was new. Not that now represents then. I digress.
chan_emu , Since we can not demo the "TEAK" let alone touch the headphone could you please make an effort to answer a few of the questions posed by me and others in this forum and future ones versus "pitching a simple sales script". There isn't a lot of time before the drop ends. At least give us the luxury of the trade show script.
If things are proprietary then feel free to state that as well. Openness goes a long way here.
Forgot to add a new question: Why isn't a replaceable cord system designed in to the "TEAK"? The "CALs" (creative aurvana live) are known for having really flimsy wire with cable failure as 1 of their 2 weak spots. You can replaceable cable designs on $20 headsets now days.
RiverMonster
6
Mar 23, 2016
SagaciousI agree with you regarding​ cable design. Non-replaceable cables are what's holding me back from joining this drop. Unfortunately, I'm hard on my equipment and have other people and animals running about the house, so the idea that the long cable on these could be compromised and ruin these beauties is a severe concern.
fjrabon
456
Mar 23, 2016
SagaciousFoster doesn't make an OEM replaceable cable, that's simply why this headphone doesn't have one. That being said, the cable isn't the cable from the CAL, but rather the cable from the TH900, TH600, THX00, D2/5/7000 series.
EMU/Creative isn't designing these headphones, they are getting them with everything but the cups out of Foster's OEM catalog, and then putting their own custom chosen, designed, carved and matched cups.
davidly
7
Mar 23, 2016
chan_emuGiven chan_emu's description about the ebony/rosewood signatures and their suitable genres, would it be too much of an overlap to own both th-00x and the ebony/rosewood E-MU? I ordered the 00x to meet my bass/closed-back needs, and I'm curious which E-MU would be best for classical needs.
Uberclocked
0
Mar 23, 2016
davidlyThey definitely will be too similar, seeing how they're a very similar design
davidly
7
Mar 23, 2016
UberclockedDo you think the teak version of the E-MU will complement the th-00x?
Uberclocked
0
Mar 24, 2016
davidlyNo, get something more neutral, like the HD600 or R70X
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