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Elysee Vintage Master Automatic Watch

Elysee Vintage Master Automatic Watch

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Modern materials meet 1930s charm in the Elysee Vintage Master: a round dress watch that uses the reliable Citizen/Miyota 821A automatic movement. The stainless steel case is available in polished and gold-plated variants, and complemented by a brown or black leather strap Read More

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jilgil
57
Mar 19, 2018
Sapphire coated lens? Folks should not buy this for that reason alone to stop manufacturers from using such awful marketing tricks
RayF
22206
Mar 15, 2018
How does that song go? "And your wise men don't know how it feels To be thick as a brick"
Dash30dash
45
Oct 4, 2017
I like the clean, vintage dial on this one.
Conceited
31
Oct 3, 2017
It looks nice, I'd be tempted to pick it up.
NikoToscani
Oct 1, 2017
Specific wording from German Chamber of Industry and Commerce as to what constitutes "Made in Germany".
"A product 'Made in Germany' must fulfil the following requirements: Those services and components which are crucial to the quality and valuation of the goods must have been performed or manufactured in Germany. The description 'Made in Germany' is not justified by simply assembling parts that have been prefabricated abroad, carrying out a final inspection or labelling the goods in Germany. On the other hand, some parts or components of an industrial product may certainly be supplied from abroad, but the essential parts of the final product must always originate in Germany. A significant refinement may justify the description 'Made in Germany'”, but here too the above statement still applies: the refinement must be crucial to the quality and valuation of the product."
Vague enough to not mean very much, sadly.
arman-h
40
Oct 2, 2017
Sinn does this: "A significant refinement may justify the description 'Made in Germany'”, but here too the above statement still applies: the refinement must be crucial to the quality and valuation of the product."
SkipPp
278
Mar 15, 2018
That depends on the price of the movement and whether they worked on it. A $100 7750 in a $2,000 Sinn that has a case, dial, crystal and significant movement finishing all done in Germany is very much a German watch. A better example would be Steinhart, a completely Chinese made watch with a Swiss movement that was cased in Germany (much like how Rolexes used to be cased in the US to avoid tariffs). That Steinhart is questionably Swiss, the Sinn is in fact German.
For the watch listed here, I would rather simply buy a similar product that was proudly made in China.
arman-h
40
Oct 1, 2017
These watches are NOT made in Germany, despite what it says on the dial. They're not even made out of German-manufactured parts. It's a Chinese brand.
FreakyFred
137
Sep 30, 2017
'sapphire coated crystal'... WTF? Is this just another name for a "scratch resistant" plexiglass "crystal"? Looks like a plexiglass lens in the product photos... Would love to see a better IWC Portuguese clone made to a higher standard.
Danbo_de_Piano
965
Sep 30, 2017
it's a nice watch, solid myota innards, ie a 'honda motor' of watches :-]. If you like the look and will wear it a lot and enjoy it, that's what matters. You certainly are not being ripped off.
i passed given that 'vintage' inspired to me should include consideration of total dimensions and not just proportion relative to style. if a watch is going to be vintage or vintage like, i go for <40mm, cases, this is too big for me for this style watch. 40 works well a lot of the time but i think makes more sense with more modern design. but if you like it, and will enjoy it, seems like a good value. I would search the bay and amazon etc to see if a minty used one could be had for 35-40%+ below the 'new' drop price, but that's just me, i pretty much don't buy unless i am stealing it, both pre-owned or when the rare opportunity is there, new (hence when i sell i usually sell for 80-120% of what I paid for it regardless if i sell it under market value as my last few sold watches all sold same day for about what i paid for them or more). at that price if i was in the market for it, i'd probably pass but i'm a cheapskate on the 'buy' side of the equation and i'm never in a hurry so usually the deal you want *(or one you are not looking for) will present it self
Abex
13
Mar 15, 2018
Danbo_de_PianoI have had no good experience with Minolta movement. I had two Zeppelins. They rattle, sound loose, and feel cheap.
I would prefer a bottom of the barrel Seiko 5 at fraction of the price.
Aliasfox
96
Sep 30, 2017
Made in Germany means nothing unless you know who the company is, and where their factories are. Nomos, Stowa, Archimede, Limes, and Glashutte Original are a few of the companies with genuine heritage. Companies like Elysee and Junkers are not.
The watch is fine, but Miyota 8 series movements and a 'sapphire coated crystal' aren't particularly nice for the price. At least the size is reasonable at 40x13, with 20mm lugs. however, you'd probably be better off going with an Orient Bambino II for a bit less money - you'd gain a well regarded brand, and an in-house hacking movement.
Danbo_de_Piano
965
Sep 30, 2017
Aliasfox+1 I would also consider (at usually decent value) Arristo in that category of actual German brands to consider, not as prestigious a those noted, but not a 'stencil brand' - a term we use in piano world whereby Asian companies buy up old defunct american and European piano names rights, then make up a long storied history, when it's just a value Asian piano, and NOT some an heirloom American or European fine piano.
Zimmer
11
Sep 30, 2017
Thoughts on this watch guys? Good quality and price?
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