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Mbot
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Dec 30, 2017
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These dudes managing Massdrop, what's this manic obsession with XLR & 1/4"? We don't use that stuff. Many people out here using very expensive DAPs!
I'm tired of those who think the world revolves around their desktop components.
Now get us some balanced cables with a 2.5mm TRRS for our DAPs and 1.5m length.
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Robert115
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Jan 26, 2018
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MbotUm that's just you. I have a fiio x5 3rd gen and that requires the 3.5mm or I can go 2.5mm balanced. I have the hd650 so the cable is automatically 1/4 and they gave me the adapter for it already in the box. Other than my music player I have equipment that only uses the 1/4 cable so yeah. How about this, stop complaining and go look elsewhere. I'm happy that massdrop has the 1/4 cable :) you clearly just want whatever you want but not what the people want.
Robert115
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Jan 27, 2018
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MbotStop complaining and stop saying the people
We are the people as well
I'm happy with my 1/4 :)
This is a you problem
Bheer
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Jan 27, 2018
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MbotDon't you have some Tide pods you should be eating? And your DAP being better than a good desktop setup? What a joke. They're great if you are on the move, and I respect you wanting a proper cable for it, but you're going off the deep end.
Edit: Why don't you look at the couple comments above this thread, mentioning some 2.5mm options (upsguys8848 and Cokeman)? Oh wait, you've said the cable you want isn't worth more than $30.
Edit: Why don't you look at the couple comments above this thread, mentioning some 2.5mm options (upsguys8848 and Cokeman)? Oh wait, you've said the cable you want isn't worth more than $30.
Mbot
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Jan 27, 2018
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BheerOFC cable is OFC cable! Yes there are slightly different grades, but not by much, and the price difference is minimal.
I can buy top-tier OFC cable for $5 a meter! Add the HD600 proprietary connectors and a 2.5mm jack and it can be done for $10. Add $20 profit and that's all it's worth.
Just because these cables don't sell by the millions, it doesn't mean they should rip us off, understand?
Is the Astell&Kern SP2000 enough to usurp your desktop delusions? The iBasso DX220 is good enough to outclass most of your desktop stuff.
I even did an A/B with the old FiiO X5 II DAP versus a $40.000 desktop system, and the FiiO was clearly superior.
The audiophile world is all pixy dust and fairies, or actually The Law Of Diminishing Returns tells the tale.
The specs in the iBasso DAP are superior to every desktop system on Earth. You don't have a foot to stand on, time to get off your pedestal.
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NotABot
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Jan 27, 2018
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BrettPHe does come across as the stereotypical millennial, he was whining on another cable drop about exactly the same thing.
Funny thing being, of course, that he goes on about using a DAP with open backed headphones that are designed to be only used in quiet environments.
So he's either a troll or a clueless muppet. My money is on the latter.
Funny thing being, of course, that he goes on about using a DAP with open backed headphones that are designed to be only used in quiet environments.
So he's either a troll or a clueless muppet. My money is on the latter.
BrettP
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Jan 27, 2018
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Mbot"Fact: you have desktop components"
1. False, I have a collection of Japanese receivers from the 70's a CD player and a turntable.
"Fact: I'm older than you"
2. And you know this how? I'm 49 and you seem like a millenial
"Fact: You can't see through your own self-centered desktop obsession, which led you to believe I am a millennial😩"
3. See #1.
"I can buy top-tier OFC cable for $5 a meter! Add the HD600 proprietary connectors and a 2.5mn jack and it can be done for $10. Add $20 profit and that's all it's worth. You victims are used to being ripoed-off. "
4. So why are you on whining about not being able to pay $70 for a cable with a 2.5mm adaptor?
" The audiophile world is all pixy dust and fairies, or actually The Law Of Diminishing Returns tells the tale."
5. You spent $3500.00 for an Astell & Kern SP1000 and you are lecturing us about being victims who are used to being ripped off, pixy dust and the law of diminishing returns? You are special.
I'm guessing most of what you claim is lies.
1. False, I have a collection of Japanese receivers from the 70's a CD player and a turntable.
"Fact: I'm older than you"
2. And you know this how? I'm 49 and you seem like a millenial
"Fact: You can't see through your own self-centered desktop obsession, which led you to believe I am a millennial😩"
3. See #1.
"I can buy top-tier OFC cable for $5 a meter! Add the HD600 proprietary connectors and a 2.5mn jack and it can be done for $10. Add $20 profit and that's all it's worth. You victims are used to being ripoed-off. "
4. So why are you on whining about not being able to pay $70 for a cable with a 2.5mm adaptor?
" The audiophile world is all pixy dust and fairies, or actually The Law Of Diminishing Returns tells the tale."
5. You spent $3500.00 for an Astell & Kern SP1000 and you are lecturing us about being victims who are used to being ripped off, pixy dust and the law of diminishing returns? You are special.
I'm guessing most of what you claim is lies.
Mbot
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Jan 27, 2018
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NotABotThere isn't any rule about where to use openback headphones, no rules whatsoever, and no laws for that matter. I have no issue using openback headphones on the beat. This shows just how feeble and OCD you are.
The clueless muppet is the one who hides indoors too scared to go outside with his openback headphone😆
The clueless muppet is the one who hides indoors too scared to go outside with his openback headphone😆
Mbot
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Jan 27, 2018
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BrettPJapanese receivers ARE DESKTOP COMPONENTS😂
I did not say I can't afford to buy $70 cables, I said $30 is all they're worth, and I don't like being rippied-off.
The iBasso DX220 DAP has the best specs of any playback system on Earth, portable or desktop, and it has two TOTL ES9028Pro Sabre DACs and a choice of 5 different module amps with superior performance. These can easily drive a 300ohm headphone with authority.
You're three years older than me, which counts for nothing. I've retained my youthful exuberance, and I love killing misnomers and exposing faulty ideologies and ripoff merchants. Millennial need not apply🍭
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BrettP
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Jan 28, 2018
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MbotReally, you know people who have computer desks big enough for a turntable, a 40 pound Marantz 2275 receiver and original advent speakers at 45 pounds a piece?
Sounds legit.
Here is a clue. Desktop components are the bits and pieces inside a Desktop Computer.
On one post you say you use a Fio, on another the iBasso and on yet another, the Astell & Kern.
You can't keep your B.S. straight.
We've all had a laugh but I think we're done now.
Sounds legit.
Here is a clue. Desktop components are the bits and pieces inside a Desktop Computer.
On one post you say you use a Fio, on another the iBasso and on yet another, the Astell & Kern.
You can't keep your B.S. straight.
We've all had a laugh but I think we're done now.
Varholiaglimp
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Jan 29, 2018
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NotABotMbot has made Boolean statements that give anyone enough ammunition to shoot from higher ground. It's not necessary to malign all millennials in the process. Also, someone's preference for more recent kinds of cables doesn't mean they were actually born more recently.
Personally, I'm glad that so many XLR and quarter-inch options are available. TRRS miniplugs are convenient and definitely have their uses, but I'm always pleased to see reasonable quarter-inch braided copper options for Sennheisers. I use a fair amount of pro equipment for arranging and overdubs, so it's good to have compatible audiophile kit.
Personally, I'm glad that so many XLR and quarter-inch options are available. TRRS miniplugs are convenient and definitely have their uses, but I'm always pleased to see reasonable quarter-inch braided copper options for Sennheisers. I use a fair amount of pro equipment for arranging and overdubs, so it's good to have compatible audiophile kit.
Ostewart
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Jan 29, 2018
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MbotHave you made your own cables?
I make them, it takes a while, roughly 2 and a half hours on this due to having to drill out the small y-splitter. Next time I willl use a bigger splitter, but it takes time to sheath the cable with paracord.
This is made using Van Damme mini starquad, which is OFC + SPC conductors, the HD6XX connectors are cheap from China, but Neutrik 4-Pin XLR are around $6-7 (here in the UK - £4.50).
$20 profit is not a lot for the work put in, unless you have chinese kids making them.
I make them, it takes a while, roughly 2 and a half hours on this due to having to drill out the small y-splitter. Next time I willl use a bigger splitter, but it takes time to sheath the cable with paracord.
This is made using Van Damme mini starquad, which is OFC + SPC conductors, the HD6XX connectors are cheap from China, but Neutrik 4-Pin XLR are around $6-7 (here in the UK - £4.50).
$20 profit is not a lot for the work put in, unless you have chinese kids making them.
NotABot
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Jan 29, 2018
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VarholiaglimpOh, I was just calling him the millennial stereotype that older folks like to make fun of. Of course it's not universally applicable. But he does play into the stereotype so wonderfully.
It was an idea that was raised by someone else in the second post, so I ran with it.
It was an idea that was raised by someone else in the second post, so I ran with it.
Ostewart
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Jan 29, 2018
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MbotAlso I have the DX200 and it does not provide the voltage swing required for a few full-size headphones, that is the limitation of batteries vs mains powered equipment.
But it seems you don't want to believe this, and are stuck in the "a DAP can drive them fine" camp. 300 Ohms means nothing too, it depends on how the impedance changes with the frequency response, along with sensitivity.
Oh well, just keep saying to yourself that you are driving them fine...
Why do OTL amps tend to work well with less sensitive dynamic drivers? Because they can output lots of voltage, but are not great at outputting large amount of current (hence why they don't work as well with many Planar headphones).
But it seems you don't want to believe this, and are stuck in the "a DAP can drive them fine" camp. 300 Ohms means nothing too, it depends on how the impedance changes with the frequency response, along with sensitivity.
Oh well, just keep saying to yourself that you are driving them fine...
Why do OTL amps tend to work well with less sensitive dynamic drivers? Because they can output lots of voltage, but are not great at outputting large amount of current (hence why they don't work as well with many Planar headphones).
Ostewart
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Jan 29, 2018
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MbotI'm in the UK so nope, can't do one that cheap.
My HE-500 are far better than the HD600 and HD650 to my ears, but they like lots of current, like what my Keces S3 can provide.
My HE-500 are far better than the HD600 and HD650 to my ears, but they like lots of current, like what my Keces S3 can provide.
kxrider85
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Mar 21, 2018
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OstewartI couldn't agree more. I converted my stock 6xx cable to balanced xlr just the other week. I didn't do a great job or anything but I spent far less than I would have buying a cable. I am thinking about making another cable from scratch. Van Damme seems easy to source in the UK, but do you know of any other good cable brands that are easier to source in the US/worldwide?
Old-Beans
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Mar 21, 2018
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kxrider85Canare L-4E6S Star Quad cable is high quality and reasonably priced. It makes excellent headphone cable and is readily available from several US vendors.
https://www.markertek.com/product/l-4e6s-bk/canare-l-4e6s-star-quad-microphone-cable-by-the-foot-black
Ostewart
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Mar 23, 2018
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kxrider85Mogami and Canare seem easy to get in the US. I use Van Damme due to it being easier to get than Mogami in the UK.
But now I have used it lots, I like the mix of OFC and SPC conductors.
Here is a recent cable I made, fully sleeved, using Van Damme.
But now I have used it lots, I like the mix of OFC and SPC conductors.
Here is a recent cable I made, fully sleeved, using Van Damme.
TheOmegaCarrot
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Apr 21, 2018
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MbotUm, using a 6.3mm to 2.5mm adapter would make your audio non-balanced
This also is crossing the negatives of each, and I’m fairly certain that’s bad for the amp circuit
XLR4 is what you’d want for that to work, and use an XLR4 to 2.5mm adapted
That would get bulky though, but you can always buy a cable *elsewhere,* like from Periapt (they’ll do a custom job), Ursine Audio, or literally any other custom cable maker, and get what you want, instead of complaining over here that this one particular drop doesn’t have exactly what you want
YankeeRider
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Apr 21, 2018
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MbotWell, your sense of entitlement probably puts off the massdrop staff from trying to accommodate you. The majority of items on this drop community are for desktop use, and I’d guess the majority of Senn users are using them at home due to their open back design. If you want a 2.5 TRRS tomorrow, just pay the piper and have one custom made, or buy this one and solder it yourself. Otherwise be patient and make a poll.
Assimilator702
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Apr 23, 2018
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OstewartNice work. Is that 2 different sizes of paracord or did you use the same size before and after the Y split?
Assimilator702
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Apr 24, 2018
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OstewartWhich sizes did you use. So far I have the Type III / 7 strand cord.
Assimilator702
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Apr 25, 2018
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OstewartThanks. I've seen survival wire but I didn't know there were so many different sizes of Paracord. I never actually needed it for it's intended purpose. This also reminds me of many custom cables that looked much bulkier than they needed to be.
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