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FIYTA Aeronautics Collection Automatic Watch

FIYTA Aeronautics Collection Automatic Watch

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I have been collecting watches (terrible thing to get into if you can avoid it) for a long time and have yet to see a genuine Swiss or German watch for under $1000. I think many are fooled into buying Swiss/ German names and businesses that are based there but do 100% manufacturing in China and source ETA movements AT BEST... if they're dodgy, they use Chinese clone ETA movements (as opposed to Swiss clones like Sellita). My cheapest German watch is a Sinn 556 on bracelet and that cost me $1200 or so in 2015. That's not even a chronograph. I think people who make claims that they can get a Swiss or German watch for around $500 are either naive and have been fooled or they are just full of shit and intend to mislead everyone else. BTW this chrono starts at $350 which is a price that even mushroom brands slapping in fake ST-19 movements can barely match (those watches are built poorly and QC is hit and miss). At least with these Fiytas, one gets a more unique design and OEM product rather than say an Alpha Speedmaster/ Daytona design knock-off. For $350 for the stainless version, it's quality is considerable. The cheapest modern Japanese chronograph is a Seiko 8R series movement used in the 2015 introduced Presage line of chronos. That one came out at a price of over $2000 despite that being an entry level mechanical chrono in Seiko's modern lineup. The Grand Seikos are well over this price. Russian's used to have the Strela watch based off a domesticated Swiss Venus 150 movement. That is no longer acquirable and modern Strelas have had their name rights bought by some businessmen and they manufacture the new Strelas in God knows where using a mix of ST-19 and a Valjoux based Russian assembled movement sans column wheel. And guess the price for those? Yep over $600 online. The only affordable path for mech chrono is vintage (rare find and usually needs a few hundred in servicing) and Chinese ST-19 based watches (legit ones from Sea-gull and fake ones from random factories). But then there is THIS! Don't go in expecting $2500 German made Damasko chronograph quality if you're paying $350. Don't get angry. If one can afford the expensive stuff, just do it and live your life. If one wishes to spend little, expect dodgy QC and cost cutting. There ain't a free lunch but cheap labour does offset the price-quality ratio somewhat. To each their own means and wishes. Free market out here. Paying relatively high prices doesn't guarantee anything these days either. My Speedmaster's pusher got jammed into the engage position when it was luckily under warranty. Tag Heuer 7750 based movement gets jammed every time I use the chrono function. $600 for full overhaul and case touch up. Only guarantee is paying >$10,000 for high horology pieces from manufacturers that are guaranteed to deliver good service. But then again one pays thousands for an overhaul of those pieces. Best thing is to avoid chronos and go with 2824 based movements or similarly simple movements. But then you have a non-complication watch and maybe some are seeking exactly a chrono. I reckon the best bet is to go with a Damasko or Sinn 7750 chrono and just spend that extra cash if one is after such a thing but many of us are looking for a beater chrono and one that is relatively inexpensive and in the chrono world, downright cheap as chips. BTW I opened my Fiyta stainless version up and the movement is as expected, assembled in dirty conditions with obvious signs of debris. I would wager the oiling is poorly done if bothered at all but for $350 even Chinese factories cannot include these "high standards" steps. Maybe if they charged more than can factor this in and deliver a still affordable albeit higher quality product. But then they won't made a dime because of all the gasping "WHAT?! Made in China for $1000!!!!" crowd lol so guess they're forced to cut corners and go for the low end of the market which is 99% of the global population.
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>... So the winding design improvement comes at no surprise at all. I was surprised to know what they did. You probably know GP gyrotron of 60x. They did similar to GP 31.7 which is impressive. >What I am going to insist  No need to insist, we trust your evidence Overall it is a shame to sell 7750 based watches as luxury imho, the movement was designed as a cheap high volume replacement. It is good, robust, refined after many years, but not luxury. So 3LZF2 modification make sense, kind of makes it a notch better.
victor2014
Of course I mean auto wind modification
What FIYTA stands for?( F In Your Tight A ), can't figure the first and last words.
$500 for a Chinese watch? Chinese manufacturing is well known for its legendary quality and innovation. The manufacturer is so proud of the product that Made in China is prominently featured on the face. Oh, it isn't. Imagine the pride in the manned space flight a full 50 years after the Russians. A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Tue last remaining real swiss watches start at omega price levels. Rolex, jlc and upwards. Then you have the purists with the seals.
NewMDUser
The swiss are dodgy bastards. Some of the dodgiest lot. Stealing gold, pretending to make stuff in Switzerland to dupe the masses, allowing international criminals a financial haven... If one wishes to get solid honest quality, get real German ( real as in prices starting $1000 from sinn damasko nomos etc) or high end Japanese like grand Seiko. Or just fork out the extra Ks and get an omega or Rolex.
(sorry, copy / paste problem on google translation for my previous post, i'm french from belgium) I've bought mine for 550 dollars on jomashop last month, beautiful, lightweight but I'm sure it's a fake. Looking at the official fiyta documentation on this watch (I'm talking about the Mars 500), the two pushers buttons of the original are bigger and closer to the body. the finish is not bad, but I found traces of claws on the screws of the back, proof of a refurbished watch or a lack of care in editing. I agree with the previous comments, a limited edition watch of 520 copies that is found for almost two years on all gray market sales sites and group purchases, it smelled bad ... I tried my luck ... missed! Mine went to timegrapher, it takes between 24 and 27 seconds in each position but with a good beat error of 0.1 and an amplitude of 260-300 which is quite correct.
i've bought mine for 550 dollars on jomashop last month, beautiful, lightweight but I'm sure it's a fake. Looking at the official fiyta documentation on this watch (I'm talking about the Mars 500), the two pushers buttons of the original are bigger and closer to the body. the finish is not bad, but I found traces of claws on the screws of the back, proof of a refurbished watch or a lack of care in editing. I agree with the previous comments, a limited edition watch of 520 copies that is found for almost two years on all gray market sales sites and group purchases, it smelled bad ... I tried my luck ... missed!Mine went to timegrapher, it takes between 24 and 27 seconds in each position but with a good beat error of 0.1 and an amplitude of 260-300 which is quite correct.
I kinda like this watch; not five-hundred-dollars-kinda-like, but still, some!
RayF
There's the stainless steel version at $350. I personally think steel is preferable over titanium because of the weight. Some like it some don't. That's if you like the look of that one. Overall they seem to be okay but the movements can be a miss depending on your luck. May need to fork out some money for a service but the cheapest "Swiss" auto chrono is around $750 in the grey market and the finishing on those Tissots and Hamiltons are only about as good as this one while their cases are actually cheaper to manufacture and all made in China anyway.
NewMDUser
Good points and frankly, I like the GA8370.WBW the best anyway.
The chronograph's hour counter doesn't reset to zero. Is this normal or just a defect?
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alex_dch
It is a feature not a bug
dkzzzz
Now I just need to convince myself...
So many people complaining about tachymeter. Can I remind you all that the speedmaster also has one, along with many many other chronograph watches. Many are complaining that the tachymeter bezel rotates. You should save that complaint for the Mars version that has a rotating bezel without any intended function. The original space watches these 43mm ones are based on have actual functioning rotating bezels that are specific for certain non-terrestrial applications. So these other versions basically use the same tooling, design, and build as those watches with functioning bezels and so they had to come up with new bezel designs or types that are conducive to the design themes and everyday function. If anyone knows how a tachymeter can be used, you will understand that a rotating one only adds flexibility. It can be used to measure AVERAGE speed (scalar) IFF you know the distance traveled. It can be versatile and measure some average frequency of an event or rate that takes between 10 and 60 seconds. If you can rotate the bezel, that means you have the choice of starting the chrono to measure some event A and want to measure the average rate of event B. Let's say your chronograph for event A has been running for 1.45 mins and event B is about to begin, then you can move the 60 on the bezel to line up with where your seconds hand is/will be when event B begins and read off the tachymeter scale as usual. People complaining that this is an example of why Chinese designers don't know the purpose of a chrono or whatever are pretty clueless. Ask yourself why a tachymeter bezel usually has 60 at the very top. 60 units in one full minute?? Apply brain.
Was a part of the last group purchase and went with the 8370 model which is the stainless steel version at $350 total. Overall quality of casework isn't as impressive as I thought it would be. My chronograph start pusher is slightly loose and wobbly. More so than the reset button which indicates it wasn't designed to be that way. Crown's threading is pretty awful even for sub $500 watch (FYI you need to screw in and out in the opposite direction as you would normally with a typical diver's watch). Bezel rotation is harsh and some play in it. Screws fixing caseback to case look poor in quality. Movement makes minute counter advance at 58 second mark rather than 60/00 seconds. Reset feel is different to Val7750 but that could just be because of the Shanghai movement and one with modifications to make it a 45 min counter. Lume is fantastic and applied nicely. Everything is clean and well done otherwise. Clasp nub is terrible quality though. Errrgh the feeling of opening and shutting sucks and does not feel nice and secure. Watch is a good design and wears small for 43mm which is good for me personally. Ran it under tap water with no obvious signs of moisture appearing under crystal after exposure to heat so 5ATM resistance SEEMS to check out. I own about 50 mechanical watches from 1890s to modern ones of all sorts from American to Russian to Swiss to Chinese to Indian in origin and everything in between. Most retail ~$500 Chinese watches are far better made than this which makes me feel it might be from a fake manufacturer. But I've never owned a Fiyta. Sea-gull and Beijing quality is far better but then again, those are not automatic chronographs so obviously Fiyta (if indeed them) needed to save money in finishing. That Shanghai version of 7750 is not exactly cheap either especially for low volume 45min modded versions of it not to mention all the detail that goes into producing this relatively complex case and bracelet setup. So I'll cut it some slack. Nice design so if you like it, buy it with the expectation that you are getting a cheaper watch with auto chrono movement and bracelet. If they just brushed up every category and made this a $1000 watch, it would be soooo impressive. This MassDrop price is definitely a much more appealing price than the 6800 RMB retail (~$950). Compared to another relatively common 7750 like a Tag Heuer at about $3800 retail, the quality is about proportional to price. Slightly better chrono quality/value would be a 7750 powered Hamilton but that's if you want to spend over $1000 on the Hamilton with a bracelet.
does this screw in the bracelet allow it to be a double deployment?
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Also been meaning to ask. Does your bezel also turn with a pretty horrible gritty action? Like there's sand stuck underneath it.
NewMDUser
Not gritty but feels like its breaking. Feels bad
Joined the drop for the non-limited edition stainless. Kinda reminds me of the speedmaster a little bit. Looking forward to receiving it. Kinda disappointed by MD’s email that it is not going to ship until Oct 26.
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For $350 this is absolutely unbeatable, especially being based on watches that have an association with a space program. The slightly loose button isn't too much of a bother and honestly it's only the tiniest bit wobbly and turns a little easier than the reset button. Weakest design of the watch is the clasp. I wonder how long the nubs will hold up. Seems to be made from higher strength steel compared to the push button clasp and the friction clasp but one side will wear faster like any brand that chooses this type of clasp. Both nub parts are probably welded in. Whenever the bracelet fails, it should look fine on a strap anyway. Whole thing does remind me of a speedmaster... but more a casio based on a speedmaster.
Also been meaning to ask. Does your bezel also turn with a pretty horrible gritty action? Like there's sand stuck underneath it.
I have it from the last drop (Mars-500 version), and did quite a bit of testing, very nice movement. In 6 standard positions (dial up, dial down, 3h, 6h, 9h, 12h) results: 0, +6, -3. -7, -7, -3 all in sec/day, average on two days, total 2x6=12 days of testing against radio/atomic standard, with no adjustment, as received. Bit graph perfect in all positions, the amplitude 290-325 degrees depending on position, which id good. The bottom line: it is a nice watch performing close to COSC chronometer standard. The only so-so is the main spring - power reserve 40-45h, it is less than modern ETA 7750 (50+ hours), on the other hand the auto wind is better vs 7750. Very underrated, and strongly recommended. The look is also very nice.
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Hi Victor, Does the bezel on your watch also turn with a pretty horrible gritty action? Like there's sand stuck underneath it? Thanks for answering.
NewMDUser
No
Ok so I've seen this watch advertised for years over different sites, the 520 unit limited edition Mars commemorative. My question is , is this a real limited edition or is it being reproduced every so often? I find it hard to believe that 520 units have not been sold in over 2 years
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Correct, limited number (but not 520), not enough to spend on serious advertising . More than 520, but the same as others do all the time, the watch still worth the money, imho
victor2014
I mean the Mars version, about the other - did not see it alive
Any one who purchased one of these watches have pictures they could share? Especially on their wrists? Thanks in advance
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Thanks you! :)
Thanks brother. Great watch
jesus christ! a five hundred dollars Titanium and saphire crystal automatic chronograph is this for real? seems to good to be true can previous owners give some feedback?
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Reference please. I researched this watch for quite some time, and though there isn't much info, everything I found says it's legit and of a good value.
alex_dch
Just what I've read about the brand on here, nothing more.
Wooow.
I recently purchased the GA8470.WBB for almost double the Massdrop price. I scoured the web and found only one available at an Indonesian retailer (I am in the US). The watch had stripped crown threads (they are reverse threaded) so the vendor sent the watch back to Fiyta for repair. Fiyta ended up sending a new watch in an old box even though this is a discontinued limited edition. I assume there are some shenanigans at play on the factory side (refurbished watches, previous rejects, etc) but I went ahead with the purchase.
It turned out to be a very high quality watch, and probably one that I will keep. Fit and finish are excellent, and the movement accurate and so far reliable. The bezel is terrible. It is very hard to turn and is not set for 60 or 120 clicks, Fortunately I do not rely on the bezel for anything. The rubber strap is great, and the hinge will allow this watch to wear nicely on smaller wrists. That being said, I think the strap is a little thin/narrow in proportion to the watch case, and the rubber edge next below the Fiyta hinge is not the cleanest.
At the Massdrop price this is a steal, however please be cautious. I think my transaction went smoothly because the retailer I used was an authorized Fiyta dealer and was able to get preferential treatment. I don't think we civilians will have the same success communicating with them and getting a timely repair. The bezel could be repaired under warranty, and while I'm sure the retailer will continue to provide excellent service, I do not consider it worth the time and shipping costs.
Dead watch arrived yesterday. Please help.
Dgth
No updates from the support and engineering team after a day. Disappointed with the after sales service.
Dgth
Toby from massdrop support replied yesterday, saying i need to write in to fiyta directly. Not very happy since it's defective from day 1 for me. Expected a replacement from them.
50m water resistant - 5bar 😂
Are these guys for real?
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😆
I'm sure you have an impressive collection of Invictas.
Is anyone willing to post their feedback/photos of this watch?
Thank you
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Is the caseback the same as shown in the pictures?
jarcamp
No, its has a different picture. I think the caseback pictured is for the titanium Mars edition only.
will this ship before new year?
I am somewhat interested in the non-commemorative, so please let me know if you are selling. Thank you.
hubert_cumberdale
Me too
That's an awful lot for a Chinese watch, especially considering you can have a "Swiss made" chronograph with a genuine Valjoux 7750 movement for less (e.g. Hamilton, Bulova).
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The 7754 is based on the 7750 but trades its weekday wheel for a GMT hand.
Search for Bulova's Accuswiss models on eBay. It's a discontinued line featuring either Valjoux 7750 or Selitta's equivalent chronograph. A lot of them go below $300. Not bad for a Swiss Made chrono watch.
I have a question for someone at FIYTA: With the design of the GA8370.WBW | Non-commemorative Edition of this watch there are small crater like imprints on the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock subdails. Are these imprints just decorative or do they represent certain locations on the moon (e.g. the Sea of Tranquility, etc.) or maybe somewhere else? Very curious to hear the answer-- thanks!
I've been waiting a long time for a good price on a space inspired FIYTA-- thanks Massdrop! Just was wondering if anyone has any details on the movement (which Shanghai model is it based on?) and/or can comment on their experiences with it? Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Just got mine in the mail, looks fantastic! But does anyone else's watch sounds like there's metal scrapping noises when you shake it, is this just who the moment sounds? I have a watch with an ETA7750, and it doesn't sound anything like it....
RetroInferno
Some watches have loud rotors regardless of quality. Hamilton Jazzmasters are notorious for it on watch forums. The Valjoux/ ETA7750 you mention isn't immune either, but it seems like you got a good one :)
Flypanam
Thanks for the reply. Turns out the screw holding the rotor down came lose and it was indeed scraping the back plate. But I opened the watch and screw it back down. Works great now!
Received mine yesterday. Very nice, big and heavy. The lugs are rounded on the wrist side, this adds to wearing comfort. Be careful, the screw down crown should be unscrewed clockwise...
Glassman1403
Yes, quite surprising at first time. I even did not know it had a srewed crown (not very intuitive for a 50m water resistance).
Absolutely love this watch. It is definitely big on my wrist, and quite thick. I am happy with that though - I've been looking for a watch with a bigger profile. The craftsmanship is pretty impeccable - everything about the watch and band is clean and very well put together. Plan to really enjoy this purchase!
What is the length of the bracelet? I need at least 8 inches (total).
The description page says " Note: At checkout, choose between the commemorative version and the non-commemorative version (- $170). This drop is limited to 30 units. " When I try to join the drop for the non-commemorative one the price reduction is only $150.00. Either the description or the order page is wrong... which is it?
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guzzimike66
Hi there, apologies for the confusion. The -$170 was a holdover from the last drop and has been fixed. Pricing overall has been renegotiated lower but the difference between the options is not as large.
What exactly is the point of a "Rotating tachymeter bezel". That seems pretty strange to me.