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Aug 26, 2016

The Purplehearts are absolutely ridiculous. Way better than the originals for actual music listening; the difference in amount of open clarity between the two models is night and day. The originals are better for multimedia; all-around movies, games, music.
But, generally, daaaayumn...
Buy any of these now.

Aug 27, 2016

nantipaneithIf you swap the wood cups of original and PH, I bet you will find that the difference is not caused by the cups but the drivers, wood cups shouldn't and couldn't make so much difference. You probably got a very bad pair of mahogany THX00 and a very good pair of purpleheart THX00.

Aug 27, 2016

mmlogicWhere's your source on this?

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Aug 27, 2016

nantipaneithI swapped mine.

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Aug 27, 2016

mmlogicMy mahogany pair sounds spectacular and with the sound signature that has been described by countless reviewers since they first came out; the "Japanese" basey signature we know well from models like Sonys XBA Z5. If it is indeed a bad pair, which it isn't, I would consider myself lucky.
The purple heart on the other hand has a different sound signature, as I previously described, and also sounds nothing short of spectacular.
I will grant you the fact that I have various stack setups, and switching between those might have amplified (gigity) my impressions of the signatures being different.
Switching the cups and failing to personally perceive a difference in how the two headphones sound is the same as switching back and forth between audio gear, file systems, encodings etc, and not seeing a difference; it's a highly subjective assessment. And so, too, is my own experience.

Aug 27, 2016

mmlogicOn a practical note, doing A-to-B testing and impressions with cup-switching would require at least 4 pairs of headphones for any remotely reliable findings to be construed.

Aug 27, 2016

nantipaneithMy bad, I shouldn't use the words good and bad. anyway, in my case, the old TH-X00 sound relax/open/warm and the new TH-X00 sound tight/focus/crisp no matter which cup they use, the difference is not day and night but still pretty obvious. but there's still a factor need to be consider, the old pair has been used for 200+ hours, and the new pair...24~30 hours.

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Aug 27, 2016

mmlogicSo you have both pair and they sound the same or you got only the PH and have mahoganies cup somehow, just want to understand what you say, In your opinion the drivers are not the same? It's been stated many time that they are but is there a difference between swapping Cups and just swapping headphones?

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Aug 27, 2016

Pierre111I have both and they certainly don't sound the same, and after swapping the cups, I found out the difference comes from drivers mainly, not the wood cups.

Aug 27, 2016

mmlogicThat might be the case; the drivers are the same but they can be tuned differently. The role of the choice of wood could be very minor in comparison to that tuning. I personally have no problem with the difference in sound signature coming from tuning rather than wood properties and processing. Makes me that much happier not to have paid $1.5k for the TH-X900, all things considered.

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Aug 27, 2016

nantipaneithDrivers can't be tuned, that's a non existant concept. You can tune a multi drivers system, with what is called a cross-over system, but to tune a single driver, you have to physically Alter it, make the membrane thinner or thicker or softer or use different material, you can change de type of coil, magnet, etc. But all of these modifications, at least to me makes them different drivers, not same drivers tuned differently. The other way of tuning single drivers HEADPHONES is to change the environment the driver is in. Damping is one, changing volume of the cup, Changing MATERIAL of the cup, porting, changing earpads. All of that contribute to the sonic signature of the headphones, so in the end, sorry to sound geeky on that one but for better understanding we should use the right terms. So the real questions are: Do they have different drivers, and if so, Is the choice of wood the only alteration. IF the answer is yes, there can only be 2 reasons for what mmlogic is experiencing (bigger difference when changing headphone than swapping pads)
1-Quality control and tolérances (would indicate that there could be a good chance of different sounding even with 2 sets of PH) 2- The concept of burn in (debated by some but making sense none the less)

Aug 27, 2016

Pierre111Drivers are tuned by the manner and purpose in and with which they are manufactured. We weren't talking about modifications after the fact here.

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Aug 27, 2016

nantipaneithI was not talking after the facts and I agree with you to a point but I don't get what you are saying, What could you do at the manufacturing phase that would make 2 drivers sound different without changing the components they are made of? There is not much in a dynamic driver. A magnet, A diafragm, a coil. Changing any of those would make them different drivers, not drivers tuned differently.

Aug 27, 2016

Pierre111Well then that's what I mean. Changes other than just the wood cups that might account for the change in signature, if the type of wood is concluded not to be the prominent factor in that change.

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Aug 27, 2016

nantipaneithIt make sense, sorry to have busted your balls with semantics

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Aug 27, 2016

mmlogicWhere can I buy those headphone hanger things?

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Aug 27, 2016

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Aug 27, 2016

DenonFanboyit's Sennheiser HH 10 Headphone Holder, I'm afraid they don't make that anymore. here's an identical product: https://www.amazon.com/Auray-Headphone-Holder-Padded-Adjustable/dp/B01K2OMSSA

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