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Ihaveaquestion
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TheBinary
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Jan 23, 2017
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IhaveaquestionOverall YES these are "better" than the Philips X2 Fidelio; I own both sets & many more, but the pair plugged in right now are the TH-X00 - there are all kinds of reasons or others opinion - but the "best" headphones for any given task can be different. For example these have a closed back (obviously due to the wood), while the X2's have an open back.
Generally closed headphones are better at blocking outside noise as well as keeping others from hearing the sometimes bothersome "noise pollution" open back headphones like the X2). For some closed back or "sealed" headphone enclosures, & for people who like them the TH-X00 open back (like your X2's) on the other hand are able to "breathe well" & can be cooler to wear (in multi hour sessions).
Don't get me wrong, I love my pair of Philips X2 Fidelio headphones, they are excellent by themselves & the X2 would be my recommendation (or top 3) if a friends budget was only half the $400 TH-X00. The X2 are also becoming an even better value now the price dropped from the $299 it cost at release & some time after, of course the price dropping didn't help me - & I obviously don't know what you paid for X2's.
Overall it depends on what you want from your headphone; these Fostex TH-00 are VERY budget friendly, yes $399 might be a lot of money, but you'll get a TON of value pre dollar.
The "fancy/top quality" set these Fostex TH-X00 were off of from well cost 300% to 400% over triple the cost of this drop.
Don't get me wrong, I love my pair of Philips X2 Fidelio headphones, they are excellent by themselves & the X2 would be my recommendation (or top 3) if a friends budget was only half the $400 TH-X00. The X2 are also becoming an even better value now the price dropped from the $299 it cost at release & some time after, of course the price dropping didn't help me - & I obviously don't know what you paid for X2's.
Overall it depends on what you want from your headphone; these Fostex TH-00 are VERY budget friendly, yes $399 might be a lot of money, but you'll get a TON of value pre dollar.
The "fancy/top quality" set these Fostex TH-X00 were off of from well cost 300% to 400% over triple the cost of this drop.
Ihaveaquestion
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Jan 23, 2017
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TheBinaryI want a shaking bass for my games and movies. Same with music. I will also keep the Fidelio. I don't mind going open or closed back. I had a closed back before the Fidelio X2, but I feel like there is not enough bass for me there.
I basically want this: -Clear highs or kind of, same as X2 quality nothing less -Good mids, same as X2, nothing less -Better bass, more powerful, shaking bass that can be "felt" on games, movies and music. I am not going to amplify them. Running them through onboard ALC1150. -Descent soundstage. I heard the TH-X00 doesn't shine well on soundstage. Those also are not so good for positional and also are not OK for massive clarity on voices on games. I may be wrong.
I will play bass heavy games such as DOOM 2016 and Diablo 3. When I hit an enemy or hear a bass heavy effect in-game. I want to "feel" that. Fidelio X2 does a pretty good job, but leaves more to desire. Something I love about the Fidelio X2 is their positional audio, their clarity and warm sound. I just wish the bass was more powerful, but I understand that sometimes an open can may be somewhat fine with bass. Closed back do a better job as far as I know.
Regards!
I basically want this: -Clear highs or kind of, same as X2 quality nothing less -Good mids, same as X2, nothing less -Better bass, more powerful, shaking bass that can be "felt" on games, movies and music. I am not going to amplify them. Running them through onboard ALC1150. -Descent soundstage. I heard the TH-X00 doesn't shine well on soundstage. Those also are not so good for positional and also are not OK for massive clarity on voices on games. I may be wrong.
I will play bass heavy games such as DOOM 2016 and Diablo 3. When I hit an enemy or hear a bass heavy effect in-game. I want to "feel" that. Fidelio X2 does a pretty good job, but leaves more to desire. Something I love about the Fidelio X2 is their positional audio, their clarity and warm sound. I just wish the bass was more powerful, but I understand that sometimes an open can may be somewhat fine with bass. Closed back do a better job as far as I know.
Regards!
Neddoge
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Jan 23, 2017
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IhaveaquestionBased on your few posts, I would say you should absolutely jump on this drop before it ends. I'm in the same boat as you, and while I still want a pair of X2's for casual use due to their comfort and soundstage -- I grabbed these X00's in the meantime for the punchy bass for movies and immersive games (X2 would be better for competition games related to the massive soundstage).
Ihaveaquestion
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Jan 23, 2017
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NeddogeSounds like what I am looking for hmm. But Ned, the bass is powerful enough? to a point of feeling a little head shake. Or what kind of bass it is?
Regards!
Regards!
Ihaveaquestion
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Jan 23, 2017
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IhaveaquestionGot into the drop. I hope they deliver great. I just want a great bass (Fidelio X2 has good bass, but I need more bass) to enjoy games bass heavy games such as DOOM 2016 :)
TheBinary
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Jan 24, 2017
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IhaveaquestionHonestly how can honestly answer you "is it enough ?"
One of your comments was
"When I hit an enemy or hear a bass heavy effect in-game. I want to "feel" that. " (Can I ask out of curiosity what else your playing?"
Anyway Ihaveaquestion I'm almost certain you'll LOVE the FostexTH-X00 - this is a good pair to treat well and enjoy for many years :)
Anyway Ihaveaquestion I'm almost certain you'll LOVE the FostexTH-X00 - this is a good pair to treat well and enjoy for many years :)
TheBinary
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Jan 24, 2017
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IhaveaquestionForgot to add, to truly get the kind of bass you want in games it sounds like a better fit would be a speaker system with a dedicated sub. Since you're shopping Closed headphones I guess you don't was to disturb others - hence no real full size "system" - am I right??
Ihaveaquestion
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Jan 24, 2017
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TheBinaryThanks, please don't worry about it. I believe it is a misconception I have with bass in general (I used to love "badass" bass on my previous speakers at super high volumes). I am still learning. I do believe that what I am looking for doesn't exist on headphones on this time and era at all (probably), but the Fostex, after some research. Do provide a taste of what I am looking for. In any way or another, I believe those have what I am looking for.
But, that doesn't mean that the Fostex TH-X00 will be my main headphone from now on (probably). I will be changing from the Fidelio X2 for certain "needs" of mine, and then the Fostex for another "needs". In the end, I bought the Fostex thinking on the word "pleasure". I believe the Fostex, if they deliver what I am looking for. Those will be used for "pleasure" while the Fidelios will be used casually. Yeah :)
Also, yeah, you nailed it. I want something bassy and enjoyable to be used in semi-private. At least the open cans work better than having my speakers and bass at 100%. I do believe these are semi-closed, but not sure. You say closed. If closed, it would be better, but I don't mind the status. Open cans at 100% do not disturb anybody near me, but speakers with bass at 100%... is another story :]
Finally, I play many, many titles. Some range from modern stuff, to old school stuff. I even pop up Diablo 1, Dungeon Keeper and Quake once in a while. But I also play stuff like Battlefield 1, Titanfall 2 and Overwatch. It depends the feel I have in a certain day, and the free time I have too. Then, I jump into any title I feel like to. It really depends. Now, returning to DOOM 2016. It is kind of like a dream to play the game with a bass heavy headphone. I had tried to EQ the X2 (has nice bass, but I need more) and previous ones I had, but that's not enough. Hmm, yeah. It is really hard to explain, but realistically. I am starting to doubt such thing exists without "killing" mids and highs. It's fine. :(
Any way or another, I am happy, that's for sure. I strongly feel that the TH-X00 are not made to disappoint any folk that buys it, and I believe I bought a great product. It looks amazing. I hope the audio does too.
Best Regards, IHQ
PS: Something I kind of paint for you to what I want gets near what it's called. "Taction Kannons", but those are not in the market still at all. I am unsure when those will hit the public hands as for their final form, but those are something near to the bass + audio quality I want in a future headphone. But I believe those are in another league. I may be wrong, but I feel like the Fostex are also made in another league. One which I decided to get and jump into. :]
But, that doesn't mean that the Fostex TH-X00 will be my main headphone from now on (probably). I will be changing from the Fidelio X2 for certain "needs" of mine, and then the Fostex for another "needs". In the end, I bought the Fostex thinking on the word "pleasure". I believe the Fostex, if they deliver what I am looking for. Those will be used for "pleasure" while the Fidelios will be used casually. Yeah :)
Also, yeah, you nailed it. I want something bassy and enjoyable to be used in semi-private. At least the open cans work better than having my speakers and bass at 100%. I do believe these are semi-closed, but not sure. You say closed. If closed, it would be better, but I don't mind the status. Open cans at 100% do not disturb anybody near me, but speakers with bass at 100%... is another story :]
Finally, I play many, many titles. Some range from modern stuff, to old school stuff. I even pop up Diablo 1, Dungeon Keeper and Quake once in a while. But I also play stuff like Battlefield 1, Titanfall 2 and Overwatch. It depends the feel I have in a certain day, and the free time I have too. Then, I jump into any title I feel like to. It really depends. Now, returning to DOOM 2016. It is kind of like a dream to play the game with a bass heavy headphone. I had tried to EQ the X2 (has nice bass, but I need more) and previous ones I had, but that's not enough. Hmm, yeah. It is really hard to explain, but realistically. I am starting to doubt such thing exists without "killing" mids and highs. It's fine. :(
Any way or another, I am happy, that's for sure. I strongly feel that the TH-X00 are not made to disappoint any folk that buys it, and I believe I bought a great product. It looks amazing. I hope the audio does too.
Best Regards, IHQ
PS: Something I kind of paint for you to what I want gets near what it's called. "Taction Kannons", but those are not in the market still at all. I am unsure when those will hit the public hands as for their final form, but those are something near to the bass + audio quality I want in a future headphone. But I believe those are in another league. I may be wrong, but I feel like the Fostex are also made in another league. One which I decided to get and jump into. :]
TheBinary
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Jan 25, 2017
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IhaveaquestionJust checked and found your headphones on KC. They seem to be doing what you want, price per-headphone is kind of hard to see? Regardless I thought you should know about it. Hope you are well! -TB
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2053327139/kannon-headphones-accurate-bass-you-can-feel
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2053327139/kannon-headphones-accurate-bass-you-can-feel
Ihaveaquestion
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Jan 25, 2017
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TheBinaryOh, totally, yeah. Those are the ones I told you about on my previous message. :)
Yeah, unfortunately prototypes are being sent only to a few reviewers at this time (I may be wrong). The shop page is up, but there is no ETA on where people will get the final product. I also understand that they are a new company, and are starting from zero as far as I understood. Kickstarter was just a goal on their side, an important one of course. So maybe, it will release during summer of this year. Please don't take my word as main.
But it is pretty exciting, they are brining to the table something that seems exciting. At least to me, as an avid gamer. But, I am tired of "gaming" headsets. I want good audio and a good experience as-well. If I wasn't looking for good audio, I would already bought what's called. Skullcandy Crushers. But I am looking for a jump from that panorama and get a better experience, while having good audio at the same time.
I had been doing some research, and also talking with some of my buddies, plus people on the internet. It has been a rough journey because not everyone seems to understand what I am looking for. I do believe this has to do with my 50% ignorance on headphones (still learning), and 50% unrealistic expectations, but I hope the Taction Kannons get to the public hands soon. As far as what I can tell, those seem, indeed, what I am looking for as for what I described earlier. I hope they deliver. To me, those sound like a dream coming true, but I will see when those release.
Meanwhile, the JVC HA SZ2000 exists. Those are supposed to be the most "bassy heavy" cans on existence as for my research went on head-fi (may need some tweaks, amp and EQ). I may be wrong, but those hit hard :). Now, the mids and highs, as for what I can tell, are not what I am looking for. So, that's when my "perfect idea" of what I want starts to conflict with realism. It's sad, but I have hope that the Taction reach that balance I am looking for. Yeah. If not, the future will tell.
Thanks for your time and input TheBinary! I believe that the TH-X00 are what I am looking for instead, and right now. As for my research went, those cover another side I was looking for in a pair of headphones. Plus they look so great, and I am sure they will satisface me for many years to come. Yeah.
Wish you good too, and I hope you are well :)
Best Regards, IHQ
Yeah, unfortunately prototypes are being sent only to a few reviewers at this time (I may be wrong). The shop page is up, but there is no ETA on where people will get the final product. I also understand that they are a new company, and are starting from zero as far as I understood. Kickstarter was just a goal on their side, an important one of course. So maybe, it will release during summer of this year. Please don't take my word as main.
But it is pretty exciting, they are brining to the table something that seems exciting. At least to me, as an avid gamer. But, I am tired of "gaming" headsets. I want good audio and a good experience as-well. If I wasn't looking for good audio, I would already bought what's called. Skullcandy Crushers. But I am looking for a jump from that panorama and get a better experience, while having good audio at the same time.
I had been doing some research, and also talking with some of my buddies, plus people on the internet. It has been a rough journey because not everyone seems to understand what I am looking for. I do believe this has to do with my 50% ignorance on headphones (still learning), and 50% unrealistic expectations, but I hope the Taction Kannons get to the public hands soon. As far as what I can tell, those seem, indeed, what I am looking for as for what I described earlier. I hope they deliver. To me, those sound like a dream coming true, but I will see when those release.
Meanwhile, the JVC HA SZ2000 exists. Those are supposed to be the most "bassy heavy" cans on existence as for my research went on head-fi (may need some tweaks, amp and EQ). I may be wrong, but those hit hard :). Now, the mids and highs, as for what I can tell, are not what I am looking for. So, that's when my "perfect idea" of what I want starts to conflict with realism. It's sad, but I have hope that the Taction reach that balance I am looking for. Yeah. If not, the future will tell.
Thanks for your time and input TheBinary! I believe that the TH-X00 are what I am looking for instead, and right now. As for my research went, those cover another side I was looking for in a pair of headphones. Plus they look so great, and I am sure they will satisface me for many years to come. Yeah.
Wish you good too, and I hope you are well :)
Best Regards, IHQ
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I want the same quality as the Fidelio X2, but with more bass. Almost like shaking bass, powerful bass. Using those for games, movies and music.
Thanks.