Sennheiser PC37X randomly goes bad after disconnecting the cable ?
Greetings, Yesterday I was using my headset like normal with my macbook, just listening to music and on a call with people like usual, and the headset was perfectly fine. The stock wire that came with the headset is extremely long and yesterday it annoyed me very much that it kept getting tangled with itself, so I decided to see if the cable is replaceable. I pulled out the cable from the headset and saw the adapter, and looked online for a replacement. Upon plugging it back in, the audio sounded extremely muffled and washed out. Im not sure what I did wrong to make it mess up like that as I've always taken good care of it, ive had it for about 2 years and its always just been chilling on my desk, but anywho I thought the cable just went bad and ordered a replacement. The replacement came, and the issue is still persistant, so I am not sure what the issue is I've tried multiple different headsets and the issue is not with the port, and I also tried it with my windows laptop and...
Apr 23, 2024
In other words, what I'm trying to say is don't base your decision based on the "savings" criteria. Look at the prices presented to you at this moment: $399 vs $299. $100 difference, period. Because in the end, savings don't mean anything if you're settling for headphones you don't want. $150 for the Beats Pro that retail for $500 or whatever dumb price they have, but I still will not drop that cash on those. I will choose, for example, the DT990s we see on Massdrop for $200-$250, but I can usually get locally for $300.
Now if I did want the Beats Pro, sure, I'll bite. But I won't do it because of the savings, I'd do it because I wanted those headphones. Same for you. Do you want the TH-X00 or the HE400i? Don't think about the savings, pick what you want to have.
Even though they are 299 right now. You would still need to update the cable since it's got a godawful 90° angle on the end plus getting better ear pads is a must.
SO in reality, you will be paying more for those than these unless you end up modding the cable on these like I am wanting dual mini xlr (which I am having doubts will work the way the cup is made)
But if the 400i is your first ever pair of Planar Magnetic Headphones. It may be worth it.
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I think I like it this way (both Massdrop exclusives and Schiit products) because then I don't worry myself on if I'm paying "full price" for something that might go on sale in the future. Plus resale value stays relatively constant. It's just a lot less to worry about. The MSRP of a product I oftentimes look upon with skepticism since some can be deceptively high, such as with the case of the K7XX's sold here. Those are advertised with an MSRP of $600, but they're only really clones of a $450 product. Still great value, but it's just misleading and I wish they could change that.
As for this product's MSRP, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt since it's supposed to have performance on par with the other Fostex TH series headphones (which do cost upwards of $1k USD). But beside that, I still think these offer great value because they're a much more affordable rendition of a sadly discontinued headphone, the Denon D5000/7000.
Sorry for going on about that, but thank you for your wonderful comment!
I have sampled them with those pads and I think, in my own opinion, sound to bland to me.
I heard them with pleather hm5 pads and the mr speaker lamb skin pads and they sound more neutral, which to me is good. The pads were able to bring out the detail in the lows and highs without overfilling it
My opinion though
Also, I have never had an amp/dac, but do they usually color the sound? If so, what would be a good neutral sounding dac/amp combo. I only want the headphones to have any coloration.
Thanks!
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Most Solid State amps you usually do not want to color the sound -- it stays relatively transparent. All that's happening is the signal getting louder, neither less in some places or more in other places.
If your audio codec or your sound card on your computer sounds particularly bad, then sure, get an amp/dac combo unit.
Anyways, just to summarize some of the options...
* JDS Labs O2/ODAC separate/combo. I find them a bit too expensive, but given what you're paying for (including the support) it's probably worth it. Also comes with the option of customizing it -- you can laser etch your own selected artwork on the O2/combo enclosure with a few extra bucks. * Massdrop O2/ODAC separate/combo. Great bang for the buck. That being said, it costs... $15 extra to have the O2 RCA inputs and power on the back? I prefer that option since I don't like everything on the front. Alas, I don't own this unit, but I have listened to it. * Schiit Magni 2/Modi 2. Both the O2/ODAC are well-known for being a reliable dac/amp combo, but the Magni 2 is almost twice as powerful as the O2 amp, in case in the future you buy any REALLY inefficient headphones. Both units are $100, so they're very competitively priced with the O2/ODAC and have similar performance. * CEntrance DACport Slim. This is seriously amazing -- it has a lot of juice for such a small unit and it just sounds so clean. Huge bang for the buck for $100 -- I would highly recommend you get this as a starter. Although it is advertised as portable, and it certainly doesn't look like the prettiest piece of furniture on your desk, it just performs so well.
My preference for starter desktop dac/amps lie on the Schiit side. I love the way they advertise their products. However, as others have said, I would highly recommend waiting for the CEntrance DACport Slim to redrop on Massdrop. It shouldn't take too long, given how popular they are.
Best of luck to you, hope this was informative...
Thanks everyone for their responses, appreciate it!
Also just a note but I have a brand new pair of 598's and I just got them for 95 on amazon. If you buy them I would wait for a sale.
I wish I could answer your question to the best I could but to be honest it really is impossible at this stage. Not enough people have reviewed it yet.
You could even look at the Hifiman HE400i that are on sale for 100 less then these.
But what's for sure is that for most of the people here joining this drop, this pair of headphones will have some incredible value, as we're getting the Fostex TH series signature sound that would normally cost upwards of at least $600 for something like the TH-600.
Nobody knows for sure how these sound like except for those that went to the HF meet in San Francisco last month and got to preview some of Massdrop's unreleased products, one of which included this. A friend I know in person who is a fellow "Massdropper", if you will, got to demo the prototypes and he said he really liked them, but could not join this drop because he already spent money on the WA7.
Is this a better choice over HD598's? Well, a few days ago on Black Friday the HD598SE was on sale on amazon, and that went for something like $100. I think it's safe to say these will probably have a lot more fidelity (and craftsmanship for that matter also), but the HD598 is of course a slightly different sounding headphone. HD600's are also pretty good, but those also compete with the K7XX's offered here on Massdrop. I'd recommend the K7XX's over the HD600's, but that's a matter of preference, as both sound pretty much identical save for a few bumps in the highs, past 7K or so.
Regarding the cable... don't consider it. Cables will impact so little of your experience. Unless you have a cable with really high impedance such as the likes of the Fidelio X1, there is really no reason to get a special "audiophile"-grade cable, because that's just a lot of snake oil being harvested.
EDIT: That being said, the only pair of cables that I might buy are bespoke custom headphone cables from the likes of bestintheverse.com or so. Those look gorgeous, and I'm considering a pair if ever my K7XX cable breaks. That's the exception to the rule, however.
As boring as this answer might sound it will ultimately ensure that you get what you're after. If you're a fan of fun sounding headphones with a V shaped sound signature the TH-X00 may very well be the biggest bang for your buck going around at the moment (keep in mind that only select few who have their own preferences have tested these phones this far so there is a certain level of risk/trust that you'll have to tolerate); otherwise there are plenty of very well received and reviewed headphones that offer amazing value particularly during the current sales period that may be to your liking and have withstood the test of time - HE400i, HD598, HD600, HD650, X2s, DT990s (massdrop all black edition) etc; you really can't go wrong with any of these choices as far as durability.
I think everyone appreciates a little bit bass, whether it's warm or V-shaped. They're just so fun to listen to. Nothing wrong with upsetting the balance just a teeny bit :)
I remember last Friday the HD598SE's were on sale and /r/headphones was getting really excited, thinking "Those look really nice but... I already have K7xx's..." And so I kept reading the thread and came across veni_vidi_vale saying something along the lines of: if one already has the K7xx, the HD598SE would be marginally more euphoric but exhibit less detail.
If you're reading this veni_vidi_vale, I just wanted to thank you for saving me some anxiety. You're awesome.
But if you start comparing them to each other, side-by-side, you'll just wind up spending a fortune and you'll wind up with too many headphones, like me.
If I was facing your choice, I wouldn't spend an extra $100 to get the HD600's with fancy cables. The cables are the very last thing you need to think about at this point. To me, the choice would be the HD600's for ~$300 (US price @ amazon) vs. these at $400. I have nothing but good things to say about the HD600's, they've been around a long time for a very good reason: they're excellent. I'm getting these Fostex because I expect they'll be a bit better, and because I've got the GAS disease ("Gear Acquisition Syndrome").
If you're a mostly normal person, probably the best thing is to decide whether you want to spend $300 on something excellent or $400 on something excellent-plus. There's also the question of whether you want to spend $100 on a great little dac/amp. Then, once you decide, just enjoy whatever it is and don't second-guess yourself about your choice of headphones... unless you really want to spend a fortune on this kind of stuff.
Bottom line: Both the HD600 and these will be better than fine. But I wouldn't blow an extra $100 on HD600 cables unless you have everything else sorted out. People get way too crazy about that kind of stuff.