Fotopro X-4CN Carbon Fiber Tripod/Monopod w/ Headsearch

Fotopro X-4CN Carbon Fiber Tripod/Monopod w/ Head

Fotopro X-4CN Carbon Fiber Tripod/Monopod w/ Head

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It's been less than a year and mine has already broken. Fotopro's warranty doesn't seem to cover their tripods other than from the factory and their suppliers don't sell spare parts. I am disappointed they don't have better support for their high end consumer products. Anyone have suggestions for getting parts or alternatives to replace this one?
This is about $10 off the amazon prime price once you include shipping...
50usd shipping... Says a lot about the confidence they have in the weight of the tripod.
Anyone have a good sense of how the quality of this is compared to the MeFoto Road Trip? Shaving a pound off of my tripod's weight would be greatly appreciated, but not at the expense of quality.
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Do you have a tangible reason to back this up?
I appreciate the reply! But without any discussion or evidence, this is a lot like asking "What camera is better, Canon 1DX II or Nikon D5?" and having a Nikon rep come in and answer "Our customers say Nikon is much better."
p4R4d0x
I totally understand what you're saying. No, I don't have any tangible reason. Just hearsay on my end but I suspect my customers and resellers are always going to tell me what they think I want to hear. There may be a review on youtube that compares Mefoto vs Fotopro. I know there is a Fotopro vs Manfrotto review on youtube that liked Fotopro more.
I got the 3 legged thing corey and am realizing that I should probably have gotten this one since it is lighter (2.2 vs 3.4 lbs) while still meeting my needs.
Can the center column be used upside down?
Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Fotopro X-4CN Carbon Fiber Tripod/Monopod w/ Head and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will ship the individual orders directly to you. The current estimated ship date is 1/20.
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I'd love to see some reviews from people who received this tripod in a previous drop
Cian
I paid $10 more for mine, and waited from Oct 1, 2016 to Nov 21, 2016 , a total of 51 days until I *finally* received it. Its very nice but haven't had much time to put it through any real-life usage. Hopefully, they'll have sufficient stock this time and the wait time won't be nearly as long. This is all I can say about it thus far. I will update this as time and experience with it permit. Thanks for asking.. I only wish I had more details.
What are the load capacities of the legs and head?
Edit: Looking around online, the max load seems to be 8kg which should be fine for most setups.
Also worth noting, it looks like the center column is locked in the extended position and can't be moved. This almost certainly negatively affects the stability of the tripod.
Rashkh
https://fotopro.com/product/x-4cn/ Spec sheet says max load is 8kg.
The vendor has confirmed that all of the orders are now on the way. Once tracking is available, you will receive a confirmation email with tracking information. Please allow 24-48 hours for this information to update in the courier’s system.
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We touched base with the vendor again this week regarding the group's order and it looks like the units experienced a slight delay in reaching their facility. They are currently anticipating delivery early next week and will be ready to turn around the individual packages as soon as they arrive. We will be sure to keep you all updated with any news we receive.
Once again, we understand that the additional wait time is undesirable. If you would prefer to cancel your order, please contact Community Support using the “Contact Support” button in your transactions page (http://massdrop.com/transactions).
You can expect an update from us on 11/17 or sooner if something comes up.
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Tyler
“slight delay” Are you serious?
We've continued to be in touch with the vendor about the shipping schedule for these units and they've told us that everything is en route to their facility now where they will be ready to turn around individual packages to each of you. As soon as we receive more news about when these packages will be prepared for shipment we will let the group know accordingly.
Again, we understand that the additional wait time is undesirable. If you would prefer to cancel your order, please contact Community Support using the “Contact Support” button in your transactions page (http://massdrop.com/transactions).
You can expect an update from us on 11/10 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (http://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Tyler
Now it looks like an endless story after waiting for almost 1 month and 2 weeks and still there is no clear visibility on when exactly will be the shipment date. Bearing in mind additional delay will be added to deliver it to my home.
Kindly add pressure on the supplier.
We've just heard back from the vendor once again regarding the group's order and they've informed us that the units will be available for shipment at the beginning of November. We understand that the additional wait time is undesirable. If you would prefer to cancel your order, please contact Community Support using the “Contact Support” button in your transactions page (http://massdrop.com/transactions).
You can expect an update from us on 11/3 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (http://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
We've continued to coordinate with the vendor about the group's order and they've let us know that it's taken them slightly longer than expected to gather and prepare everything for individual shipment to each of you. Rest assured, we will remain in close contact with them and update the group as soon as everything is sent out.
Expect another update from us on 10/26 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (https://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Awaiting confirmation! We are still in contact with the vendor and just awaiting updated shipment estimates from them. We have a call scheduled for early next week and should get a bit more visibility in regards to when we can expect the group's individual packages to ship.
Expect another update from us on 10/20 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (https://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Just about there! We've been in touch with the vendor regarding the group's order and they've let us know that they are still working to gather and package the group's order for individual shipment to each of you. We will continue to check in with them throughout the fulfillment process and update the group again as soon as everything is sent out!
Expect another update from us on 10/14 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (https://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
The X-4CN tripods are being made with a lighter even stronger carbon fiber they will be the first of their kind ever made, but because of this process they will not be ready to ship until the beginning of November. We apologize for this inconvenience. We will be sending you all a 30% off coupon code with your tripods.
Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Fotopro X-4CN Carbon Fiber Tripod/Monopod w/ Head and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will ship the individual orders directly to you. The current estimated ship date is 10/20.
We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 10/12.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (http://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
I have a redged tripod I got a few years ago that came before the mefotos. Its similar to the one mentioned in the amazon length and has 4 sections instead of 5. Itsprobably closer to a clone of benro. The cf diameter I believe is 26mm which is OK for most of my micro four thirds gear. Anything heavy or long zoom lens really needs larger diameter legs. This is a solid deal as long as the ballhead is decent.
Is the 1Kg weight rating including the head? Kinda funny that this tripod still weighs more than my sleep system for backpacking.
What is the weight capacity/load that this tripod can handle?
PSquare
Up to 8 kg
This seems pretty much the same as https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Lightweight-Portable-Monopod-Capacity/dp/B00NSEKEMO, except $60 more.
SodaAnt
And 500g less.
I would totally want this if it didn't have the twist locks instead of the flip locks on the legs. Those twist locks are just awful and a pain to use
Acramer
Too funny. Don't buy a manfrotto, vanguard, or bogen tripod. You will be so unhappy.
ZeeDan
I have to agree...Which is why I dislike manfrotto. Which is sad because I know they are good tripods...The reality is twist sucks. I only consider it due to the number of good tripods out there that are twist. It's just kinda something you're stuck with. Flip is soooooo much faster to setup and more convenient when you're trying to balance a tripod in a tricky spot.
Since Climbrocks sort of opened up this discussion, I'll add a few observations. Without actually touching this tripod, but studying the pictures very closely, this tripod is very similar to a lot of other off branded tripods. Zomei is one of them. I happen to have about four of those in hand. When everything looks just about the same, I can be pretty sure this Fotopro came to life exactly the way Climbrocks described. It is a branded tripod from a large Chinese manufacturer.
There is nothing inherently wrong with that. As long as you know what you are buying.
The tripod part of the tripod is good. It is solid. The thing is super compact, that folding the center pole back over makes it really easy to carry around. The tripod is stable. It isn't Bogen, Manfrotto, or Vanguard strong - it is just a good solid tripod. It is a major step up from the really inexpensive tripods.
The thing that isn't good about this tripod is the head. The ball is coarse, the adjustments are not very precise, it is hard to get it to hold with heavier equipment, and the quick release plate is a bad design (there is no retaining clip on it and your camera can fall out of it if you accidentally loosen the retaining knob on the tripod). If you buy this, you will probably buy a new head, just be aware of that.
The whole idea of a tripod and monopod in one is super nice. But it takes a lot of practice to get any good at converting the tripod (you have to unscrew a few things and they can get dropped or lost). I would never do that in foul weather. And the monopod is just kind of OK. Better to buy a dedicated monopod if you really need one.
So it is a great tripod and a good deal, if you are upgrading a kit tripod, you want to test the waters with carbon fiber, you have a lightweight camera, you want portability, you don't want to break the bank, and you are willing to buy a new head when you get tired of the one on this tripod.
And if I were buying one myself - I would buy the carbon fiber, hands down, over the aluminum. Carbon fiber will last a lot longer, feels much better in your hand (think about using this outside in the cold - aluminum stinks at that), and it is sturdier.
Unfortunately they didn't include the one great thing about the other brands of this tripod - the carrying case. This normally comes with a fantastic padded case that can't be beat. I mean the case is way better than a lot of Vanguard and Manfrotto cases. Too bad they messed that up.
Just search for Zomei on Amazon, you'll see the similarity.
ZeeDan
There are two bolt heads on the QR plate and the recessed cutout on clamp will catch that bolt heads in case you accidentally unscrew the QR knob.
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ZeeDan
Zomei! Thanks, ZeeDan, that's the one I got--couldn't remember the name the other day. Maybe the Z668C? Whatever. Great for my needs. I also agree that the ball heads are pretty average--but the "quick release" plates are plain awful. No matter, I use my RRS head or a really lightweight Benro head instead (anyone wanna buy a Zomei ball head??) and good RRS L plates or other Arca compatible plates depending on the circumstances.
One thing to add--the monopod looks like a really strong billy club, great for appearing well-defended. It isn't really good, of course, because it's carbon fiber and will break when you smack someone with it...but it looks strong. It's pretty much useless as a monopod, since it's about 3 feet high (monopods should be eye level).
I used to work in the photography industry, attended CES to find (Chinese) factories from which to import gear, and ultimately worked with a couple to import a line of tripods and another for camera bags. Just adding a coupla cents worth here.
The reason these look like 3LT and MeFoto tripods is because they are (nearly) the exact same thing, just re-branded Chinese factory tripods, nothing more. Nobody is copying anyone, they're just slapping their own brands on them. If you order a large enough batch (i.e., change the molding beyond anything the factory already has), you can make modifications and have something unique; pay a bit more for more designs and better QC (which I believe 3LT does) and you get a marginally better product. Anyone who has paid up to $400 for a MeFoto or similar tripod is foolish; the exact same tripods can be had for less than $150 for a carbon fiber tripod with ballhead on eBay or Amazon. Sirui has caught on (to how many foolish people are out there) and has jacked up their prices; Triopo appears to be following suit. I can't recall the name of the last one I bought (precise same measurement of this drop) but they sent me the wrong one; when I complained, they sent me the right one and didn't ask for the other one to be returned (I've used it for parts). Bottom line: this is a decent price for a pretty good if somewhat short tripod. I personally don't use mine as much as my Gitzo Mountaineer.....and if you think I'm foolish for buying one of those, well, you clearly haven't handled a Gitzo (bomber!). And the fact that I got it for only 200 bucks off of Craigslist. There is a big difference between the top of the line tripods and the Chinese ones; I think the 3LT's fall somewhere in the middle (so not a huge difference) and the Fotopro's are definitely grouped in with the latter. (I'm happy to discuss my very negative views on outsourcing everything and losing IP to China separately.)
Speaking of which, word to the wise: do NOT pull strongly on the legs of these tripods when you lengthen them--they will come shooting out and the little plastic pieces can be a pain to put back together. Gitzo has stoppers, which is one reason they make that really cool swooshing sound when you open the legs...
Oh, and why carbon fiber instead of aluminum? It's not about weight at this size. It's about vibrations--CF vibrates less than Al, and when you're dealing with a tripod, well that's the point.
climbrocks
Thanks for your helpful insights, climbrocks! Much appreciated. As per your remarks, I wouldn't pay anything like 3LT prices at B&H, Amazon, et.al. ...and did not (see my other posts here). I do like the 3LT look a lot, though. The Tim is being returned to a 2nd tier 'outlet' seller, BTW, principally due to my disatisfaction with the Airhed 0 ball head. The Evo 2 Airhead 1 on my Jack and Brian seem fine: I like their much lighter weight, appearance, larger ARCA type clamp, and the somewhat slimmer profile (different alloy... more magnesium?) compared to similar competition in ball heads. I am keeping my eye out for a compact, later model Acratech.
I wonder if you have any reliable information on the Nest tripods? These seem to be very good overall and may handle well -- perhaps another step up, yet again -- out of the box and in light use... but there seem to be one or two concerns expressed about longer term durability with respect to the twist lock mechanism. I am presently looking for a lightweight "field" tripod with ~32mm diameter top sections and 4 sections max (preferably 3, if it can be configured to operate low enough for nature subjects and near-macro) in anticipation of the purchase of a Pentax K-1. The Pixel Shift feature on this camera will, I believe, mandate another step up in stability from that offered by the 28mm top section variety of tripod. There is also a similar 32mm x-section, newer model carbon fiber Dolica at around two hundred bucks (!) on Amazon you've probably noticed. Would you have any dependable observations on that one vs. the Nest? I would buy Gitzo in a heartbeat if I saw the kind of deal you got, but... I don't really require high levels of durability for my uses -- nature, landscape, cityscape -- and at my age ("late middle age", as I like to call it); but I do want dependability in light use, repeatability in action, fast handling, and effective vibration damping characteristics. New firmware for the K-1 just released provides electronic first curtain shutter operation in live view mode -- hoo-ray! That just lowered my requirements for internal damping by the tripod-head assembly a notch right there. Thank you for any assistance!
C_Elegans
Hi C_Elegans,
Thanks for the message. I had not heard of Nest until you pointed them out. You shouldn't be surprised since (a) I am not in the market for any more tripods since my Gitzo and my Chinese knock-off carbon fiber (and my aluminum Manfrotto and Slik* and other rebranded Chinese...) tripods are all doing quite fine and I therefore have no need to go tripod shopping, (b) my RRS ball heads and L brackets and macro rail (!!!) kick butt, and (c) sadly, tripod companies are a dime a dozen now, and it is really quite difficult to differentiate between quality and further knock-offs. (As I implied in my prior post, I do not like having played a role in the success of knock-offs--at some point, I believe it disincentivizes companies like Gitzo from putting more into R&D and putting all of their resources into marketing.)
The Nest tripods appear to be in the Dolica/Triopo/Siriu/whatever Chinese knock-off department (appears that Nest IS Dolica?). The twist locks are the issue for these, and, as I warned previously, probably don't "lock" like the Gitzo's and RRS's of the world--the legs come flying out if you pull too hard or unwind the locks too far and you have to get the little plastic pieces to fit back into the tubes. Honestly can't recall if I've done that on my Gitzo, but not gonna try. I think any of the above will work well but they won't be on the level of Gitzo or RRS for build quality, etc. That said, do you need an $800 CF tripod, w/o a ball head, camera-specific L plate, etc.? My guess is no. Get some better glass instead. Or, if you do macro, get a couple macro rails!!! (They'll make a bigger difference in your macro shots than any tripod.)
*The Slik Sprint 150 Pro II Aluminum tripod is one of my absolute favorites and has been to 3 other continents with me. It weighs 2 lbs, holds 4.5 lbs, folds to 18.5 inches (a bit less, actually, if you take off the ball head or take out the center tube), and gets to 50 inches without extending the center column. Oh, and it costs 60 bucks!!! I often carry it around at night when traveling in sketchy spots (it looks like a club). No, you won't be taking photos of the stars in heavy winds or shooting cheetahs with a 400mm telephoto, but you'll be solid most of the rest of the time.
Is the only thing that makes this one better than the aluminum one that's also on massdrop at the moment the fact that it's carbon fiber? Because the stats are practically identical for another 70$
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I understand your hesitation entirely, and I sympathize very much. But if you check around a little more, I think you'll find that $70 is a pretty modest upcharge for carbon fiber + some presumably desirable changes in the overall spec. This, unfortunately, is what upgrading tends cost in this game. It can be very hard for someone less experienced to know where it's most sensible to draw the line.
One observation that's been made many times is that few ever regret spending more for quality that matters... and soon forget the cost. Not so, the typical outcome of a less informed, bargain hunting strategy! Also, the somewhat better (or, at least, the more distinctive) gear tends to hold its value notably better; you usually take a big hit in the end when you just buy a well reviewed 'commodity' item, instead of something a little special. As with many things, tripods are a "horses for courses" matter; and that's why so many experienced photographers own several. I'll be looking into this deal myself, as I need something near two pounds+ and under 15" folded to replace the 3LT Tim I mentioned. I also use, in addition to a DSLR and medium format film, a mirrorless combination of Canon M3 plus Sony A5000 (in preference to the A6000 for performance at low ISO's, BTW) -- the two are a complementary & synergistic combination. Something like this Massdrop may be just right for those cameras in some situations... as well as for a high spec DSLR, with the center post lowered and the overall height extension limited to something like 30".
EvanKupec
The aluminum one also cant become a monopod
Anyone know how this compares to the C5? Hard to find online comparisons and reviews. Load capacity?? Min-height?
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Any I guess. I'm not so much curious about the carbon fiber vs aluminum, but here's a review for one I saw that sounded positive: https://www.slrlounge.com/fotopro-c5i-tripod-field-review/ and I was curious how this compared. I can't seem to find the X-4 anywhere online.
tom_m
They are very similar. The C5I is just like a bigger version of the X-4CN. The C5I is aluminum and the X-4CN is carbon fiber so its a lot more durable and lightweight. Min. Height is 350 mm Load capacity is 8 kg.