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Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
You have to wonder if these AIB partners just like losing sales. Do you know the only reason I am not buying in to this drop? Because I intend to side mount my GPU and the bottom has orange paint on it that will not go with my white and purple build. Will they never understand the concept of color neutral or they will lose sales? Not everyone wants orange, MOST probably don't. This is not just the case for orange but any color that doesn't go with EVERY color...RGB..it's a thing.
KushielAOC
28
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234I couldn't agree more. At least give a RGB selection Like Red, Green, Black...
Anzial
1494
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234Personally, I don't care what it looks like. It's not like I'm buying a videocard to stare at it all day long lol. Its purpose to produce pretty pictures on the monitor, not in the computer case which for most people is under the table and out of sight.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
AnzialI would say MOST people is not factual at all, if MOST people did that why is EVERY case builder making tempered glass side panels and RGB lighting the standard? Because MOST people want and buy that, that's why. That would suggest that MOST people do care while many might not.
I understand alot of people are function over form hence power supplies with ugly red and yellow and green and orange wires, because people are cheap. However look how big the market is for color themed cable extensions to hide that hideousness. I didn't buy a PSU to look at it all day either but I sure wouldnt like looking in my side window and seeing ketchup and mustard either.
That being said, sure alot of people dont care but there are many who do care about aesthetics and for those who care about aesthetics I imagine a very small portion of those have orange themed rigs, so you cancel out everyone who doesn't want orange...and that is a lot of people I am sure.
Noctua is arguably the best performing PC fan...but they are tan, I won't buy one and I am sure many many feel exactly the same hence all the fans that are NOT brown that even cost more and don't perform as well selling a metric butt ton of them.
Shall we go into how "Gaming" chairs are probably the worste chair to sit your ass in all day but people buy them and pay way too much for them because "they look cool"? Do they buy them to sit in or look at all day? I have noe idea, maybe some people get more G forces and need side bolster racing seats than I do when I am typing?
Johnrob
26
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234I thought this card did have RGB lighting on it, I remember looking at it when I was shopping half a year ago or so.
But for your build colors I think Asus is gonna be the only option for you.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
JohnrobIt does have RGB lighting which is why it is even more silly that it has an orange X painted on it. Well not painted, organge lenses over RGB lights.
MadVillainMC
4
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234It doesn't make a person cheap when they don't care what color their PSU wires are... You are allowed to do what you want with your rig but don't make assumptions about people because they don't care what it looks like as long as it performs. I am happy for you that you find joy in color coordinating your PC.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
MadVillainMCMy only point is I am not alone in this and companies are in fact losing sales because I am certainly not the only one or even a minority. If people especially gamers only cared about performance, Alienware wouldn't sell a single unit nor Apple for that matter.
Acme64
43
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234You are definitely in the minority don't kid yourself
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Acme64I guess all the companies putting RGB lighting and making tempered glass side panels are kidding themselves too because nobody cares how their components look. Its only a couple billion dollar market..shrugs
Acme64
43
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234uh, yes. only a couple billion, total pc revenue is around 450 billion. Do you know how many desktops shipped last year? about 250 million. How many of those are custom built cases with side panels? i'll give you a hint, its not even close to 51%, you're literally the minority. Please relax.
duskflights
20
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234You're not alone, but you're almost certainly in a very small minority. Most gamers do tend to put performance first, which is why discrete GPUs *exist*, after all, and why benchmarking is such a thing. I suppose we could wait and hope that someone decides to put out one in our preffered pastel yellow color scheme (/sarcasm), but it would probably be more expensive and would take months, if anyone ever agrees with our interior decorating values. I'd wager more people would take the cheaper option now than wait and also pay for vanity. Not that people don't do that, or that there's anything wrong with that, just that it's a smaller market.
Regarding Alienware, they have good specs, and their service is great. Personally I wouldn't choose an Apple for gaming, but many gamers also do artsy things and they're good for that, along with having an interconnected ecosystem and a reputation for stellar service.
There's a significant portion of people who don't give a flying fuck about fan voltages or tweaking CPU clock speed versus memory speed settings in the BIOS. They want a box that displays a pretty picture when they press a button, and for it to work with little/no stuttering or failures until Moore's Law comes back around.
I'd bet quite a lot they outnumber you .
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Acme64and I would bet you most of that PC market is home pre built office machines, GAMERS tend to build their own and those are custom PC cases and MOST of those have side panel windows.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
duskflightsI dont want ANY color, how hard is all black? It isnt. My point here is making it completely neutral has a wider appeal while choosing any single color that isn't neutral is limiting and I would bet hurting sales because believe it or not, none of these cards it that much better than another by any significant difference...so same price same performance ..aesthetics becomes the deciding factor...everyone has a 1070 in this price range all perform pretty much the same, so aesthetics do in fact matter and influence buying decisions, I am merely making the assertion that putting ANY specific color vs NO color limits sales unless you specifically want Orange. The only way to truely test it would be to launch the same card one all black and one with the orange.. same launch date, same availability performance and price I would bet my years salary the all black sells better all other things being equal.
Acme64
43
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234most gamers do not build their own. where the hell are you getting your info from? in q2 2016 about 17million pc's shipped with discrete gpu, nvidia in the same quarter, with 70% market share shipped around 9million gpu's. using the loose definition of building your own pc and some massive assumptions that means only 8 million nvidia gpu's where installed. from 255 million desktops available.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Acme64Actually this is easy, prebuilt sales are down and component sales are up. AMD Ryzen CPU's are outselling Intel is one example, go to Best Buy, Office Max etc and you tell many how many systems have Ryzen in them..the answer is not many if any.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234I am not sure why this is even a debate. If anyone believes that Orange will sell more than black..go ahead and keep believing that.
Acme64
43
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234please, stop. walking into a retail store to try to gauge a global market is naive at best and obliviously ignorant at worst.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Acme64You win the internet. Newegg should shut down, nobody builds their own computers...only idiots dont because you know plugging 7 things into the only socket the plugs fit in is hard and screws are hard to screw in and who can find an hour to build one when they have 2000 hours on their game.
Haynesy61
3
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234Why are u so triggerd over a gpu color?
Acme64
43
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234are you breathing ok? you sound like you lack oxygen
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Haynesy61Im not, I made a simple comment about how some people wont buy it because it isnt color neutral, such a first world problem. I dont give a crap one way or the other but it seems that suggesting that companies make color neutral parts to make more sales is controversial..lol
Acme64
43
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234nobody is disagreeing with you there. the problem was your assertion pc builders are not a minority. when they obviously are. So next time you're thinking "why would they DO that?" remember, its because you're a tiny fraction of a market. they don't actually lose much.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Acme64Breathing just fine. I type over 150 wpm, doesn't take much effort..like building a PC does (insert sarcasm)
Acme64
43
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234you're literally the only person to have stated that "fact"
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Acme64Noctua again is my example, not many would agrue that they don't make the best performing fans...how in the world is anyone else selling fans for more money that perform less if aesthetics is not a legit thing that effects sales? A PC case is just a box, you would have to wonder why so many poorly thermal designed cases sell for alot of money based purely on looks..the best selling cases are NOT the best performers, people spend even more PURELY based on aesthetics for a zero performance gain in fact, often a loss.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Acme64and you are literally the only person to be such an Orange fanboy. Who would have guessed people would be all up at arms suggesting black would be better than orange because not everyone wants orange in their build.
Anzial
1494
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234How about a link to statistics before you proclaim that your color choices should be driving the GPU market? Here's a link for you http://wccftech.com/nvidia-wins-q4-2016-gpu-market/ From this you can see that discrete graphics in general are only 1/3 of the GPU market. Even then, the vast share of the discrete GPUs are low-powered, designed for basic use and for notebooks. This gpu, whose color offends you, is designed for a niche of a niche of a niche market, which translates into a very low %. So no, you are completely wrong, your choice of colors won't affect the GPU makers' bottomline one way or another.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
AnzialYou can frame anything around any idea you want to project with irrelevant stats. The only way to prove or disprove this would be with the scientific method. You would need to create two identical GPUS the only difference being one black and one orange release them on the same day with equal availability and see which sells out faster or has more sales in a given time frame. That would be only legit statistical data that isn't framed around a predetermined hypothesis. Without this exact experiment it is just a guess and my money is on black would outsell orange by a significant amount, it wouldnt even be close.
Posting stats in the manner you did would be like me going and finding stats on sales of all GTX 1070's and comparing how many were orange and how many weren't and suggesting that is legit proof that orange sells the worste out of all gtx1070's. Although that is clearly inaccurate it would be more relevant than your link is. LOL. At least my target demographic would be valid...people who buy GTX 1070's.
Acme64
43
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234you'd still lose, orange is attention grabbing and exciting, black is boring. There are more uninformed buyers than informed, they'll go for whatever has the best marketing. Why do you think Ferrari's most popular color is red? Marketing > your aesthetics
MCDELTAT
18
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234... 95% of the people that buy this card will mount it with the orange facing down, just because that's the default PCI direction. In my case I can't see the orange at all. So from the side it's just another grey/black card with the RGB lighting. And the orange isn't even that large of a surface area, so if you're the type of hobbyist that wants to side mount it, just paint the thing, it'll take less than an hour easy.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
MCDELTATI don't know because I don't own this card, is the orange not a lens over a light. If so, if you turn the RGB lighting to white does it cast an orange glow under the card? Seems painting the lights would be counterproductive.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Acme64Have you ever seen the Cougar Conquer tempered glass PC case? It only takes scanning ANY review of the comments on it. You know what the top two comments are? It's ugly because it shouldn't have been Orange and That huge logo is ugly. So in the case of that case, no matter how much marketing they do, it will only appeal to people who want a Orange PC...who I am pretty sure are the minority considering a search on Newegg doesnt really come up with many orange cases...I suspect it is because nobody really wants an orange one vs a black one just sayin. This card would be an excellent choice for that case however, maybe they should do a bundle discount.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 12, 2017
Acme64Ok, well now you have to factor in the whole cognitive dissonance thing and the fact that these reviews are from people who already decided with their wallet that they love Orange, they could clearly see it was orange before making their purchase so those who oppose orange are filtered out already.
MCDELTAT
18
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234Nope.... there are no lights on the shroud of this card. So the orange is literally just orange paint. The only RGB is from the side on the Gigabyte logo. Which isn't that much RGB, but that's fine because this card hit the perfect balance between performance and cash for me, I just tossed other RGB lights in my case and went on with my life.
branchini
7
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234RED CARD = FAST
Acme64
43
Oct 12, 2017
Jacqueline1234oh, these reviews, not ANY reviews, but these specifically that don't support your claim, these reviews must not be part of the ANY reviews. my bad, how thoughtless of me.
Anzial
1494
Oct 13, 2017
Jacqueline1234That's what EVGA did, with 1080 ti FTW. In very limited quantities and for select customers (EVGA club or something) they offered the same GPU with different color options. Which tells me that even the most customer-oriented GPU maker (most of them nowhere close to how well EVGA treats their customers) doesn't really care about color selection. Most people who really care about this sort of stuff simply spray paint the cooler on the videocard. It's called modding, in case you didn't know.
As for the stats, ever heard of interpretation? Numbers by themselves mean nothing, interpretation is the analytical tool. So yeah, argue all you want but I presented you with scientific facts. You just chose to ignore the obvious. Pretty sure even if I produced stats for sales of identical cards with different colors, you'd still challenge the conclusions. In this respect, you very much like Trump, who chose to ignore the overwhelming scientific evidence for global climate change, just because he doesn't want to admit being wrong.
Bobert
46
Oct 13, 2017
Jacqueline1234What evidence do you have on what “most gamers” do or buy? I’m not saying you are wrong I’m just wondering from what data are you using to form your opinion? There are seemingly just as many PC parts stores as there are boutique gaming PC builders.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 13, 2017
AnzialYes I have heard of interpretation, as I said above, all other colors combined of gtx 1070s sell more than orange. At least my data is the right demographic instead of your obscure data that is completely unrelated to the conversation.
Anyway, your type shines through when you can somehow bring politics (as if they are real and not some fictitious bullshit to keep the masses from uniting) into a discussion about computer parts. Whats even sadder is how much arguing people will go through to defend a brand color choice when i simply said they should make shit color neutral, you guys really love orange don't ya?
SkipPp
278
Oct 13, 2017
Jacqueline1234Not everyone has a display window. Some of us just like powerful hardware.
Bobert
46
Oct 13, 2017
Jacqueline1234" all other colors combined of gtx 1070s sell more than orange. " How is that any kind of evidence to prove anything? All other colours combined sells more than any one colour by itself. How can you call such a thing a fact when you didn't give any actual data?
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 13, 2017
BobertIt isn't, it is absurd which is my point if you read up. I also explained the only FACTUAL relevant data would be if they made two identical cards at identical prices and available quantities one with orange and one without as being the only possible data that could be used as evidence in this argument. No such data exists and anything else is posting irrelevant data and cherry picking it to fit your own version of the facts to come out with a pre determined conclusion, which is straight BS. The point I was making is that as obsurd as that statement was, it was more relevant than the other persons supposed fact proving data because at least in my ridiculous assertion the market demographic was correct...sarcasm, it is a thing.
Bobert
46
Oct 13, 2017
Jacqueline1234Do you understand the word “factual”? You gave opinion and no facts. What actual evidence do you have? Actual numbers. Do you have any?
”sarcasm, it is a thing” what does sarcasm have to do with anything you’ve said. Also sarcasm doesn’t normally work when typed.
Your whole “thing” is you have an opinion based on speculation. Your speculation is not fact.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 14, 2017
BobertYou win the internet Bobert, more people prefer orange than a neutral color that would fit any theme, you got me!@ You don't need data to understand that there are more than one color themes in a build and just having 2 colors that arent orange is enough to make a fairly accurate guess that more people would like and buy it if it weren't orange...are you [moderated]? All it has to do is lose one sale..one, one person not buying because it is orange and not color neutral is enough to mean it cost sales..my own choice not to buy it is proof of a loss of sale because they made it orange where if it were color nuetral I would have bought it..ie, it lost a sale because its orange. Derp, no link, no charts, no data required..there is your proof.
What are my options if my build doesnt match orange, the options are every other card that ISNT orange, you know, the ones everyone else who doesnt have orange components (or taste) in their build are buying.
This isnt a court of law or debate club, go to any group..ANY and ask who here prefers the color orange over every and any other color in the world? The minority would say yes me me me I love orange...I am sure there are some who do, but those who dont I am 100% sure are greater in number than those who do. Im not even picking on Orange here, look around how many people complained about Zotac putting a big yellow stripe on the backplate of theirs? Obviously enough to make them not do it on the next model. This is simple shit guy. If you want MASS appeal you don't do that kind of shit, its a marketing mistake..period. It has millions of colors in the RGB lighting to choose, how many of those millions go with orange? It isnt very many. You strike me as a guy who wears socks with sandals...Linus loves orange too.
Bobert
46
Oct 16, 2017
Jacqueline1234" more people prefer orange than a neutral color that would fit any theme, you got me!"? What are you on about? Did you not read what I wrote? Clearly you didn't. I never argued against your point I only argued you formed an opinion without actual data or facts. I even summarized what I said at the end of my previous post. I'll post it again for you.
"Your whole “thing” is you have an opinion based on speculation. Your speculation is not fact."
" go to any group..ANY and ask who here prefers the color orange over every and any other color in the world? " How many people did you ask? What led you to believe orange is the least liked colour out of all colours and that colour is more important than price?
" The minority would say yes me me me I love orange " Based on what evidence?
" You strike me as a guy who wears socks with sandals...Linus loves orange too " Do you form your opinion for everything from nothing but your personal bias? And what did you used to base that opinion? I'm wholly against wearing socks with sandals as it defeats the purpose and I don't even like the colour orange. I do really like Linus socks, sandals, orange and all, though.
If one 1070 cost $50 - $80 less than others, with no other difference but colour I'd still buy it. I'm not going to claim everyone else thinks the say way I do, however, which is exactly what you did. I'm sure for many colour, brand, number of fans and the packaging the card comes in is worth paying more money, but I'm not going to claim I know how people think based on zero data.
Bobert
46
Oct 16, 2017
Jacqueline1234You said " It only takes scanning ANY review of the comments on it. " You even capitalized "ANY". And yet the two reviews posted weren't accurate.
"Cognitive dissonance: In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who...is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs..." That sounds like your situation.
You also said " The only way to prove or disprove this would be with the scientific method. " and then you still picked a side based on your personal preference. You didn't even bother to post what data you used to form your opinion.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 16, 2017
Bobertyou have gone full [moderated].
Bobert
46
Oct 16, 2017
Jacqueline1234Your response is typical for those who can’t be bothered to type out a well researched reply. If you can‘t be bothered to defend your opinion with facts or evident why inflict them on others?
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 16, 2017
BobertGo ask any ten people, what is your favorite color? 6 of ten would have to reply Orange to prove me wrong. I will bet you my annual salary 6 of 10 will not claim orange. I don't need a database of statistics to come to a pretty obvious conclusion that MOST people won't choose orange man. Are you just [moderated]? There is nothing to defend here. I don't need to do a statistical analysis to make the claim that most Americans don't eat worms either, some things are painfully obvious. Only you would be the type to say I would need some kind of data to prove most Americans don't eat worms right? You bring up cognitive dissonance when clearly it is you who are triggered by the fact there are well over a million colors to choose with RGB and that color neutral would be a better choice that more people would make over orange all other things the same..all other things include price and performance..the same.
Bobert
46
Oct 16, 2017
Jacqueline1234When did I argue about favorite colors? Am I dense? Seriously? I‘m not the person who’s arguing a point that wasn’t made by the person I’m arguing with. When did you establish people buy video card based on color over performance or price? Would a person buy a black 1060 over an orange 1070 is they were the same price of $200?
I asked what facts and data you used to come to your conclusion. It should take amy analysis to defend your opinion that color matters that much.
You eat worms example is just ridiculous hyperbole. Eating worms is not the same as claiming most people avoid better deals because the item isn’t their favorite color.
Go go look up the definition of cognitive dissonance you are exhibiting those traits. Let me remind you again that I am not arguing what color people prefer, but your lack of evidence when spreading around your opinion. You haven’t listed any sales number if any kind just your opinion. Your opinion is not evidence. Providing the data you used to form your opinion should be super easy because you used it to form your opinion. All anyone can tell from what you’ve written is you don’t like the color orange and you won’t be buying this card no matter how good of a deal it is. I’m mean a colors matching rig is much more important than one that serves its purpose, right?
Bobert
46
Oct 16, 2017
Jacqueline1234This card is a good price. People will buy it if it suits their needs and many won’t care about the color because the price is so good.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 16, 2017
Bobertactually if you read I said the ONLY valid data would be is if you had IDENTICAL cards at IDENTICAL price and performance, all things the same other than the color. It has nothing to do with a 1060 vs a 1070, I said IDENTICAL cards the ONLY difference being color would be the only quantifiable data, all else is wrong data. I didn't say people avoid deals, I said they would make more sales if it were color neutral because I am sure some people won't buy due to it being orange, the fact that I am one of those people is proof of a lost sale...this isn't rocket science man.
MurderDogg
73
Oct 17, 2017
Jacqueline1234Maybe you could remove the little orange accents with a bit of nail polish remover, or just rub it off with a Scotch-Brite. Even a rubber pencil eraser would probably do a decent job in 10 minutes.
Bobert
46
Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234How can you collect data from a hypothetical situatio? How can you use a hypothetical situation you invented to prove any point? Your sample group is one person in size. Do you really think that’s enough to form an opinion?
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 18, 2017
BobertYes it is enough when my opinion is "It's costing them sales" It cost them my sale..100% proof it is costing them sales. I'm done with you.
Bobert
46
Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234Let me fix what you said “it might have cost them one sale” there you go. You aren’t everyone. You only know it cost them one sale, though there is no telling if you were really all that interested in buying a 1070 anyway. If you can afford to pass up a good deal on a 1070 then why not just buy a 1080 ti and not inflict your personal opinion on this forum? I don’t know why you kept replying when you couldn’t be bothered to defend your opinion with some actual evidence. I’m not going to waste my time collecting evidence to disprove your claim, but why don’t you look at how long gigabyte has been making products with orange accents. I’m so releaved you are done I was getting tired of repeating the same “where is your evidence” phrase.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 18, 2017
BobertJust ordered Ausus Strix 1070. Nor do I feel the need to conduct polls and shit to determine that those who prefer orange over every other color in the world would be the minority of people, whereas NEUTRAL would allow for the option of every other color in the world and orange limits things to just orange, not sure why you cant understand this without being [moderated] or something..orange is one color all the other colors are way more options than Orange and it is a very simple conclusion with no data or evidence needed..its not even the orange it could be ANY single not neutral color would be a result in ostracizing anyone who doesn't like that color. If it were blue, anyone who doesn't like blue would be put off..you see my point? No, you don't because then you can't argue and you live to be contrary I suspect.
Bobert
46
Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234Ausus? You mean Asus? Where did you buy it?
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 18, 2017
BobertNewegg
Bobert
46
Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234“Just ordered Ausus Strix 1070. ” I’m just going to leave this here. And let me point out your use of the word ostracize: exclude (someone) from a society or group. Your use of the word is ridiculous hyperbole. No one is being excluded from society by the colour of a graphics card. You paid $40 more for another 1070 instead of spending $70 more and getting a 1080.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 18, 2017
BobertI don't need a 1080, no plans to upgrade my monitors, why would I spend 70 dollars more? I did pay 40 dollars more to have a card that matches my build yes. I would gain nothing by getting a 1080, a 1070 is overkill for my set up in truth. Hell at 60hz on 1080p I could have got away with a 1050ti. And yes, more proof that at least one person would spend MORE just to NOT have orange or any single color that doesn't match all other colors. If everyone only cares about the best "deal" then I suppose there is no reason in the world to have colored fluids, or colored cable extensions etc, seem an aweful lot of people invest in those things..but obviously for people like that and myself its more than just what the best deal is, otherwise we would all have ketchup and mustard cables because hey why pay more to match your aesthetics, nobody does that right? I mean you can screw your motherboard into a 25 dollar case as easily as a 200 dollar case too can't ya? I mean fuck if you really don't care you could just screw your components onto a piece of particle board..it would still work the same. I have one computer that is built on the box the motherboard came in...works fine. Look mom, no case! (I know you need proof) https://gyazo.com/c30e31ac8e0a9460a8aed85c3b6408b9
Bobert
46
Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234“without being autistic or something” what a crap thing to say. Autism is a condition not an insult stop being an @ss. Here is the bottom line. You didn’t say “I think”, “my opinion” you basically said “this is a fact” and then spoke on behalf large groups of people you know nothing about. How long has gigabyte been selling stuff with orange accents? Any idea?
Bobert
46
Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234So you don’t need a 1080 because that’s overkill, but you said a 1050 ti is overkill so....you just like wasting money? Your opinion is yours not everyone else’s. For a person who is done you sure type a lot.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 18, 2017
BobertIt is a fact when given the option of ALL other colors vs any single color the minority would choose the single color. You make no sense, you are saying that any single color vs all the other color could possibly ever be the majority? It simply cannot be, and thats not an opinion its a statistical probability. I can speak on behalf of all humans in say that a majority of the people in the world would not choose the same single color over all the other color options in the world, if they did why bother giving us a choice at all ever? If the majority of people in the world like one color there is no point in any other color since all those people must be weird everyone knows that orange is the best right?
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 18, 2017
BobertI didnt say a 1050ti is overkill, I said I would be able to get away with just a 1050ti, yes a 1070 is a bit overkill for my set up, but per your why not spend 70 dollars more, I did that by stepping up to a 1070 vs a 1060 because a 1060 is only about 60 dollars less. Not to mention I have multiple machines and other interests beyond computers.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234Oh look I paid extra for cables that don't improve performance and extra for a CPU cooler that doesn't perform as well as an ugly brown one from Noctua also! Yeah I should start buying orange parts now! https://gyazo.com/28bbbe515e0aca8512210d43b38ac501 . That being said in the pastr two years I have built 6 computers, not one of them has any orange and therefore this card would not have been an option for ANY of them..so that is more than one sale on just me alone and yes I theme my builds to all match aside from that spare parts thing on the box I use to test Linux distros on. Also I don't own any Gigabyte stuff, you know why? Because when they have a product I consider, most of the time it has Orange on it, so I go elsewhere. I do the same with Red as well, so its not orange bashing..lol. I considered a Zotac card once, it has a big yellow stripe on the backplate...guess what? I didn't buy it for that single reason. You cannot tell me I am the only one who does this. The MSI Gaming card in every flavor from the 1050-1080 and AMD 460-580 is probably the best price for any of them in their category..but guess what? RED
Bobert
46
Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234You are correct I misspoke. The 1080 was over kill and the 1050ti is good enough which means the 1070 is overkill. So...what was the point in saying what you said again? The cheapest 1060 6GB is $259 and the Asus 1070 Strix is $439 you might want to check your math...let me just do it for you: $180 difference. Also if you cared that much about price you would have bought the orange card, some masking tape, black rattle paint can and calculated the difference in price better.
"If the majority of the people in the world.." The majority of the people? Oh when you say the majority of the people in the world you mean just you. Go on then.
Why don't you tell KTM, Revzilla, Gigabyte and Linus everyone hates the colour orange. If they asked for your evidence tell you "because I said so" and while you are at it throw in a "don't you know who I am" because that makes every thing better.
Bobert
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Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234Oh wow 6 computers? That's so amazing *sarcastic golf clap*. I don't care about you or your builds, just stop speaking for everyone. I'll send an e-mail to gigabyte asking them if they pick colours specifically to offend people.
I'm not going to click on your random URL : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Bobert
46
Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234At no time did I every say orange was more popular than any other colour. Seriously it's the second effing time I've said that. Again I'm arguing with you spreading your factless opinion as fact. If the colour of anything made sometime sell significantly less the company would stop selling stuff in that colour. What evidence do you have that gigabyte's business has been significantly hurt by choosing the colour orange on at least two of their products? And before you say it again: you are not significant.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 18, 2017
BobertWe already covered this. The only actual and provable data would be if they made the same exact card at the same exact price and availability in both orange and black and see which sells more. Any other data would be cherry picking to support a hypothesis which isn't scientific at all. I would bet my annual salary the black one would sell more units again because a majority of build are simply NOT orange. Also the link was the build with the Asus Strix card in it and if you did look you would see orange would be a horrible choice.
Jacqueline1234
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Oct 18, 2017
Bobert" If the colour of anything made sometime sell significantly less the company would stop selling stuff in that colour. " I wonder why Noctua started making fans that aren't tan suddenly if color was not hurting their sales? Things that make you go hmmm.
MikeMD
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Oct 18, 2017
Jacqueline1234Ok I love a great debate just like everyone else, but please keep the discussion about the product and refrain from any personal attacks. Thank you
Bobert
46
Oct 19, 2017
Jacqueline1234Suddenly? Who actually likes the colour of their fans? How long has Nactua been making brown fans? Do you have any idea? And how long has gigabyte been selling stuff that is orange? How long has KTM been selling stuff that’s orange? Get a fact I swear it won’t kill you.
Bobert
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Oct 19, 2017
Jacqueline1234“The only actual and provable data would be if they made the same exact card at the same exact price and availability in both orange and black and see which sells more. ” and since that condition doesn’t exist your opinion is based on opinion only and not facts. Your opinion isn’t based on facts scientific or otherwise. Your opinion is based on nothing but your personal opinion. There is no cherry picking of anything. You didn’t type your post as if it were your opinion you typed it as fact. Again until you have actual evidence otherwise you only speak for yourself and no one else.
Bobert
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Oct 19, 2017
Jacqueline1234I’ll type it again for you: what evidence do you have gigabyte‘s business has been significantly affected by their choice in colours? How many products do they sell of each colour? How many products do they sell in the colour orange? Get a clue or a fact or some kind of evidence. Saying you’ll bet your salary on something isn’t worth the effort it took to read the words.
Anzial
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Oct 19, 2017
BobertDude, don't feed the trolls lol. :)
Bobert
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Oct 19, 2017
Anzial“I just want the truth!”
Jacqueline1234
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Oct 19, 2017
AnzialLooks to me that he is the troll, The only person in the world that cannot understand how a non neutral color is not as good as a neutral color and extremely limiting as it doesn't match MOST color themes. Guy wants data to prove this fact which to the rest of the world is called COMMON SENSE.
Anzial
1494
Oct 19, 2017
Jacqueline1234
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Oct 19, 2017
BobertYes they suddenly started making colored fans instead of just brown as they have for years. You are not very good at reading comprehension are you? If they made brown fans for 175 years and only started making colored fans this year, that's suddenly yes. I guess they finally figured out after arguing their performance that people actually give a shit about matching the color in their builds. Shocker I know they were stuck like you. I predict you will argue they weren't making fans for 175 years because that is what you find important in the post, actual specifications instead of just understanding that they only had brown for many years, you will get stuck on the 175 years, you're welcome.
Bobert
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Oct 19, 2017
Jacqueline1234Common sense? Ill just summarize everything else I said before. What is the portion of people who really care about colour matching? What is the portion of what’s left that cares more about colour than price? The number of people who hate the colour orange isn’t significant enough for gigabyte to change.
Bobert
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Oct 19, 2017
AnzialRetardation shouldn’t be used as an insult, but there are no winners in an internet argument. Only once has someone said “that’s a good point I didn’t think of it that way”. Also I set you up for “you can’t handle the truth!”
Bobert
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Oct 19, 2017
Jacqueline1234I don’t think you are making a good point when Nactua fans were also much more expensive. If no one bought their hideous and expensive fans then perhaps you’d have a point or perhaps if their hideous and expensive coolers wheren’t so popular you’d have a point. On Amazon the ugly brown F12 has 858 reviews the black F12 has 252. Do you think the evo 212 is more popular because of the way it looks or the price?
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 19, 2017
BobertThere have actually been several studies that show with results showing that as much as 92% of purchases are made on color alone. Do your own research, take a marketing class, I don't care but many many many many many people and research suggests MOST people color is the number one deciding factor when making a purchase according to many studies on the issue. If you want me to google search and post the over 1 million results I can or you could ya know...try googling it yourself.
Jacqueline1234
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Oct 19, 2017
Bobert" Nactua fans were also much more expensive. " actually there are many many sales of lesser performing fans selling for much more than Noctua fans...Thermal Take RIIng, NZXT Hue + fans. Corsair ML LED fans, none of which have the performance of noctua and sell amazingly well for a higher price, so you need to look at that angle as well. If lesser performing fans are selling for more money..why? Color?
Anzial
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Oct 19, 2017
BobertWasn't intended as insult, it's just an old, overused joke. I guess it's no longer politically correct, and yet that's the first thing that pops up when you google "arguing on internet" lol Blame google!
Bobert
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Oct 21, 2017
Jacqueline1234How can you compare the price of fan that’s only a fan to a fan that’s also a light show?
Bobert
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Oct 21, 2017
Jacqueline1234There have been several studies? I don’t see any of the URL’s for those studies. Are any of those studies on computer hardware It was it fashion items? “Do your own research...” why would I research for you? I said get some facts and all you could come back with was the same BS the media feeds the public “...studies suggest..”. Go away until you actually have evidence or facts or something that isn’t just your opinion.
Jacqueline1234
35
Oct 21, 2017
BobertRGB lights cost 10 cents
maximusmith529
9
Oct 22, 2017
Jacqueline1234Plastic and wires only cost a couple dollars, so why aren't all fans about 5 bucks?
Bobert
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Oct 23, 2017
maximusmith529Which RGB lights cost .10 cents? And again where is your actually effing data? GTFO with your BS until you can collect some actual data for anything. Why aren’t fans like 5 buck? Seriously get a clue.
maximusmith529
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Oct 24, 2017
BobertWrong person? I'm on your side. Read the last couple comments then try again. Don't worry you can do it. :D
Bobert
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Nov 9, 2017
maximusmith529I see don't understand where you got 10 cents from, but I get your point, unfortunately it's wasted on the OP
maximusmith529
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Nov 10, 2017
BobertJacqueline1234 was the one who said the lights were 10 cents.
Jacqueline1234
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Nov 10, 2017
maximusmith529
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Nov 18, 2017