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Aleskb
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Nov 8, 2017
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Did these newer versions of the Airman actually ever retail at 1650, or even 1500 USD? I doubt it, I've never seen a new version sold anywhere at more than 1,199 USD (and that was one place only, not sure how they managed to sell any). Something intriguing about how these "AD" prices are defined...
RobertK
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Nov 8, 2017
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Aleskbnot sure, but the grey dealer jomashop offers it at 749 and a retail of 1650 listed, with their nonsale price being 1095. one thing though, i own several glycines, and their bang for the buck is always high, as far as swiss wathes go. i am in, once i figure the model thats most appealing to me.
Aleskb
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Nov 9, 2017
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RobertKI've actually never seen it higher than 750 on jomashop in the last few months so I'm not sure what they mean by "sell" :) don't get me wrong, I've bought my dc4 here on massdrop and think it's great vfm. I'm just wondering where these watches were ever sold at 1650 usd, and how many were sold. Frankly speaking, as much as I appreciate the airmans vfm at 6 or 700 usd, I'd be disappointed at 1600 or even 1500, knowing à stowa flieger with a top grade ETA and hand brushed case costs around 1000, and a damasko with ice hardened case can be bought for 1600...
RobertK
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Nov 9, 2017
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AleskbNo watch is ever sold at the retail price. Thats a ridiculously high price for purposes of insurance, and perceived value. You can usually cut that in half, but its really manufacturer recommended pricing, so you can actually say it means nothing unless you give it a meaning. I can tell you my used socks are user-recommended sale price of $20,000.00, but does that mean anything? What if the watch manufacturer says that? That said, I stand by my statement above with regard to value. My glycines are by far the most bang-for-the-buck. They always look phenomenal, and they always keep time better than other watches in the price range.
Aleskb
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Nov 9, 2017
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RobertKI guess value for money is a highly subjective notion, and I appreciate your take on it. When I look at my collection, I repeat, I find the VFM of my DC-4 purchased at 600 USD really good. Now, is it better than the VFM of my Seiko Alpinist that cost me 360 USD? I'm not sure, even though the Glycine comes with a Swiss ETA, the 6R15 of my Alpinist performs admirably well, can be serviced for 30 USD, and the watch itself is gorgeous. Is the VFM of my DC4 better than the one of my Seiko Blumo that also costs around 600 USD to purchase? Again I'd say no, the finishing on both watches is equally excellent, the Blumo feels more solid on the wrist and has a better bezel action, but that's normal for a dive watch. It does however keep time worst than the Glycine.
These are my comparison points, 2 watches which retail at a lower price than Glycine ADs. I'll soon receive my Stowa Flieger to have another comparison, but I'm expecting better VFM than on the Glycine: top rated ETA (same as the chrono version ETA, just not regulated with the same strict standards), hand brushed case, blue heated hands, far, FAR better lume than on the Glycine (which frankly speaking is the worst of all my watches), saphire crystal on both sides (dial and movement display), personalized engraving on the case, leather strap (versus the cheaper NATO on the Glycine) all that for 1,000 USD AD (I insist on the AD as they can only be purchased through the Stowa website), it's very hard to beat for any watch, Glycine, Seiko or any other. But I'll give concrete feedback after receiving it, these are just my expectations and what I have read on forums about it.
Last, I really have to disagree with your statement that "every watchmaker" presents crazy AD prices that you basically cut in half at the time of puchase. Glycine and Invicta are actually the only ones that come on top of my head doing that (I'm sure there are others I can't think of). But all the tens of other watch brands I know of don't do that, you'll find a difference of 20, at most 30% between their AD and actual retail price. Look at Seiko, Citizen, Oris, Damasko, Sinn, Stowa, Laco or even the larger players like Omega, Tudor or Rolex. I doubt you will find all of their line available somewhere at less than 50% of AD (750 on Joma versus 1650 AD means it retails at around 40% of its AD). Invicta has always been severely criticized for that, and Glycine is going the same direction since its Invicta purchase. Before that, it was really hard to find an Airman at less than 1,000 USD...
These are my comparison points, 2 watches which retail at a lower price than Glycine ADs. I'll soon receive my Stowa Flieger to have another comparison, but I'm expecting better VFM than on the Glycine: top rated ETA (same as the chrono version ETA, just not regulated with the same strict standards), hand brushed case, blue heated hands, far, FAR better lume than on the Glycine (which frankly speaking is the worst of all my watches), saphire crystal on both sides (dial and movement display), personalized engraving on the case, leather strap (versus the cheaper NATO on the Glycine) all that for 1,000 USD AD (I insist on the AD as they can only be purchased through the Stowa website), it's very hard to beat for any watch, Glycine, Seiko or any other. But I'll give concrete feedback after receiving it, these are just my expectations and what I have read on forums about it.
Last, I really have to disagree with your statement that "every watchmaker" presents crazy AD prices that you basically cut in half at the time of puchase. Glycine and Invicta are actually the only ones that come on top of my head doing that (I'm sure there are others I can't think of). But all the tens of other watch brands I know of don't do that, you'll find a difference of 20, at most 30% between their AD and actual retail price. Look at Seiko, Citizen, Oris, Damasko, Sinn, Stowa, Laco or even the larger players like Omega, Tudor or Rolex. I doubt you will find all of their line available somewhere at less than 50% of AD (750 on Joma versus 1650 AD means it retails at around 40% of its AD). Invicta has always been severely criticized for that, and Glycine is going the same direction since its Invicta purchase. Before that, it was really hard to find an Airman at less than 1,000 USD...
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