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Bugxy
2065
Aug 22, 2017
Is this a working or decorative moonphase?
Virgule
343
Aug 22, 2017
BugxyI've never seen non working decorative moonphases.
Bugxy
2065
Aug 22, 2017
VirguleI suppose that's true, if you discount Orient Sun and Moon and some from Certina. Orient is arguably not claiming S&M is a moonphase complication.
Mezz
350
Aug 22, 2017
BugxyThis is a true moon phase movement. It is not a day/night indicator as you see in some cheaper watches
Quazi
67
Aug 22, 2017
MezzThanks for confirming! This is a "can't miss" for me even though I didn't know about this watch until the drop. I have a similar Glycine, 36mm but no moonphase, and love it. I've been after a moonphase watch for ages, and silver dials are my jam, so this couldn't be more perfect. 40mm is a great size for my wrist. I'll swap out the band seconds after getting the watch, but that's par for the course on any watch. Too bad it doesn't have an eclipse indicator for the next event!
Virgule
343
Aug 22, 2017
MezzOh, I never thought about that. So is it a rotating dial with a 29.53 (roughly) day period ?
Quazi
67
Aug 23, 2017
VirguleI believe Glycine generally uses re-branded/numbered movements from other suppliers in their watches. Given the 280, I think this is likely based on the Sellita SW280, which matches the description of 25 jewels, 28,800 vph, and 38 hour power reserve. I found a highly (almost too detailed) info sheet about the movement here: http://www.sellita.ch/images/stories/documents/SW280_1_8_20170308.pdf
While it's certainly not photo-realistic, it appears that the moonphase dial has two moons and 135 teeth so once set, it's accurate for approximately 122 years, as noted here: https://gearpatrol.com/2015/04/14/complications-the-moonphase/
EDIT: comments/picture below suggest that it has 118 teeth, which would mean it's not accurate for 122 years. Not a deal breaker for me if I have to reset it every 3-4 years since I'll be rotating my watches a dozen times in that 3-4 year span anyways. Thanks Virgule and Luck_my-Fife!
Virgule
343
Aug 23, 2017
QuaziNice research. Yea, It's probably that movement. Nice level of details in that technical documentation. They explain how to set the moonphase :
"In position 2, turn the stem until the full moon appears in the middle of the opening. Determine the date of the last full moon with a calendar showing the moon phases. Then make one jump of moon phase indicator for each elapsed day since the last full moon."
If this is the modified movement Glycine uses, it is a true moonphase and not a day/night indicator.
I called 4 "authorized retailers" yesterday from the info on Glycine's site. I wanted to validate if it was a true moonphase complication. All retailers explained they are not Glycine authorized retailers anymore (since the acquisition) and the info on the site is probably not up to date. From what they told me, I feel 3 out of the 4 didn't even know what a moonphase was. The last did, but was confused by my question as to how it differed from a day/night indicator.
Quazi
67
Aug 23, 2017
VirguleKudos to you for doing that research! I'm convinced it's a true moonphase, but I guess we won't know until we have it. Couldn't get a glycine manual off their website or anything.
https://twitter.com/thomasorewatch/status/898583020646617088 This appears to be a picture of that movement. Maybe somebody with better eyes or more patience can count the teeth on the gear:
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Luck_my_Fife
80
Aug 23, 2017
QuaziI counted 118
Quazi
67
Aug 23, 2017
Luck_my_FifeYou rock! Thanks for doing that. Interesting, it doesn't match up with the number in the article posted above, but it is almost exactly equal to 4 x 29.53 (118.12). I don't know what to take from that - maybe accuracy in between the two?
Luck_my_Fife
80
Aug 23, 2017
QuaziNp. And yeah I'm unsure what doubling the amount of teeth does aside from increasing the vibration frequency, but I'm no expert. I wonder how this compares to the 135 teeth variation.