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Cloaca
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Another affordable Glycine "SWISS MADE" (i.e. "just the rotor"?) watch.
http://www.asian-watches.com/2015/02/the-great-chinese-swiss-watch-paradox.html
===== From the above URL (note that currently SWISS MADE requires that 60 percent of value be Swiss):
The movement to the right above (made with high quality components) would cost you $50 and it's manufactured in China. The engraved rotor in the photo to the left costs about $25 made in Switzerland. The single part - the engraved rotor equals 50% of the parts of the watch movement. Here's a bigger rub. The Swiss watchmaker can ship the rotor to China and have it installed at the movement factory. That's 50% of the cost of the movement. Labor doesn't figure into the equation. What about the casing (adding the movement to the case)?
"Thanks to current weak Swiss laws, watches produced almost entirely in China can be sold legally under the "Swiss Made" label," Jean-Daniel Pasche, chairman of the Swiss watch federation." 
Quoting Silke's article in Reuters one last time:
The directive (current law) also has little-to-no heft in international trade disputes, making it a blunt sword in the fight to protect the reputation of "Swiss Made", luxury watchmakers say.
One other problem, no one has explained how the Swiss actually enforce the law. One press release from the Swiss Trademark Division amended an earlier amendment and said essentially that if a part is made in Switzerland and shipped to a foreign manufacturer, the box could also be stamped "Swiss Made". Here's the next rub. It's up to the consumer to find out what the manufacturer did. For example, the Hamilton Watch dial above shows "Case Hong Kong". That's a disclosure, but are you going to remove the back of the watch to see where someone made the case? I'm willing to bet that 99.9% of the population (I'm being generous) wouldn't know how to remove the back An associate at Shenzhen Meigeer Watch Co., Ltd in China, not allowed to speak officially said that her company has made a turn-key watch for Swiss firms such as Glycine Watch, SA.
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Cloaca
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Cloacahttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-luxury-watches-swissmade/what-puts-the-swiss-in-a-swiss-made-watch-idUSBRE9230KS20130304
ODDLY ENOUGH
MARCH 4, 2013
What puts the Swiss in a "Swiss Made" watch?
Silke Koltrowitz
ZURICH (Reuters) - How much are the words “Made in Switzerland” worth to consumers increasingly vigilant about the provenance of everything from what they eat to what they wear? The answer, luxury watchmakers say, is “a lot.”
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Both versions are stricter than the 40-year-old “directive” currently governing the use of the “Swiss Made” stamp used for watches, which says at least 50 percent of the value of only the watch movements must be made in Switzerland.
This means cost-conscious watchmakers in the lower-priced segment can import 100 percent of the cases, dials, hands and straps and still mark their watches “Swiss Made” as long as half of the parts of the watch movement are made at home.
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“Thanks to current weak Swiss laws, watches produced almost entirely in China can be sold legally under the ”Swiss Made“ label,” Jean-Daniel Pasche, chairman of the Swiss watch federation (FH), said in a telephone interview.
“This is going to harm the label over time as consumers nowadays want to know what they are buying. Some complain their Swiss watches are not as Swiss as they should be,” he said.
Erich Mosset, head of movement maker Ronda, which makes some parts for its Swiss quartz movements in its factory in Thailand, said the new law meant a “massive tightening”.
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CHEAP CHINA
The debate over how high to set the threshold is partly due to concerns that producing more in Switzerland, where salaries and prices are high, could hurt small and mid-sized firms’ margins, already squeezed by a strong Swiss franc.
Some watchmakers agree.
Ronnie Bernheim, head of the maker of Switzerland’s railway clocks, Mondaine, said a threshold as high as 60 percent could compel makers of lower-priced watches to buy cheaper components abroad.
“If you import a lower price component, also of lower quality, the Swiss percentage goes up ... Lower-quality products would qualify for ‘Swiss Made’. It is paradoxical,” said Bernheim, on behalf of some 25 watchmakers opposing stricter rules.
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Buying less crucial watch components such as cases, straps and dials from Asia, mainly China, has been common practice for decades. While luxury players and big groups can afford to make these parts in Switzerland at a higher cost, smaller and mid-sized firms in the lower-priced segment cannot, said one Swiss movement maker who asked not to be named.
“You can find these components in a very good quality in Asia,” he said. “They are not better if you make them in Switzerland.”
JOBS AT STAKE
Mondaine’s Bernheim said Switzerland would lose its competitiveness if it adopted rules that were too strict. But Pasche said the special reputation and value of Swiss watches justified tougher rules.
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Additional reporting by Stephanie Nebehay in Geneva; Editing by Sonya Hepinstall
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CloacaCool story bro.
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CloacaFor me a SWISS MADE watch needs to have as a minimum a known SWISS Movement inside, and be assembled in Switzerland. Putting a rotor on the back of a non-swiss movement might pass the laws, but in my opinion its not a Swiss Made watch. If you are unsure ask the brand directly for answers about the movement or other doubts before purchasing.
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