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Jim74
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Dec 11, 2017
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For goodness sakes you guy's I have three custom knives and a host of other EDC's (Kizers, ZT's, WE's and the like) that I 'm having to have professionally sharpened... My wife will kill me if I buy this set-up. Please explain to others why this is so necessary!!!
And why those $1,400 shoes look just like the $600.00 one's you bought last month!
I hate my life... But I love my knives!!!
Dec 11, 2017
AngryAccountant
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Dec 11, 2017
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Jim74Long term, you could save money vs pro sharpening, obviously. This isn't an expense, this is an investment with a solid rate of return!
Dec 11, 2017
anonomous
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Dec 11, 2017
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Jim74Add up the costs over two years. If it's cheaper to send them out do that. If you want to learn and diy and you save costs buy the system. Frankly it's less frustrating just sending them out.
If you want a pro to sharpen them I recommend spade knife work when his books are open.
https://www.instagram.com/spadeknifeworks/
Dec 11, 2017
LoremicusIpsuminus
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Dec 12, 2017
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Jim74Unless you want to give up your right to repair and manliness. You still need to learn to sharpen your knives, but you learn a skill. Also get the Venev Bonded Diamond stones, their stock Silicone Carbide is utter crap. Also get some basswood plank, some diamond paste and you are all good. You can sharpen every neighbors knives then.
Dec 12, 2017
JimmyP
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Dec 12, 2017
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LoremicusIpsuminusSeen a couple of suggestions for the Venev Bonded Diamond stones, do you find that they wear quickly like the stock SIC stones? And have you attempted to flatten them, if so, was it easy/hard? I have only had experience with the way DMT/Eze Lap Diamonds cut, if you have experience with them also, how do they compare?
Dec 12, 2017
anonomous
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Dec 12, 2017
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JimmyPThe Venev stones will last a long time. And they are good for beginners because you won't rip diamonds off the base like non bonded diamond stones that dmt is known for (beginners usually use too much pressure destroying them).
They will load up so you'll need to clean them off periodically with a cleaning stone. Which can be done when flattening too.
Flatten by getting a flat surface like glass or grannet stone and some sic power (Silicon Carbide). Mix the SiC with a bit of water and swirl the stones around on the slurry. This will flatten the stones and refresh the bonded surface so more diamonds can surface to the top.
The bonded stones is an organic epoxy of sorts with diamonds scattered throughout the matrix.

Dec 12, 2017
Major_Infidel
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Dec 12, 2017
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anonomousAnon, do you think one of the 8”x3” double sided Veneev diamond waterstones would be compatible with the Hapstone V7?
Dec 12, 2017
anonomous
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Dec 12, 2017
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Major_InfidelI have no idea. They make sizes that fit the hapstone tho. Email gritomatic.com and find out more info from them. Konstantin is very informative and should be able to give you more info.
Dec 12, 2017
AngryAccountant
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Dec 12, 2017
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Major_InfidelThey sell 1x6 Venev's for the Hapstone format, I wouldn't be surprised if an 8x3 would work with it though it likely wouldn't have the stability unless it has a 45 degree edge geometry thing like the aluminum backings sometimes are. The Hapstone has corresponding 45 degree geometry to capture those.
Dec 12, 2017
Major_Infidel
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Dec 12, 2017
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AngryAccountantThanks, guys.
Dec 12, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Dec 13, 2017
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anonomousAgreed. I have the full set of vanevs as bench stones. They're great, but make sure to get a nagura of some kind to unclog them. I find mine load up relatively fast.
Dec 13, 2017
LoremicusIpsuminus
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Dec 13, 2017
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JimmyPOkay so the system ate my comment yesterday. Like others have said, the Venev last long and little maintenance is needed, much more tolerating than diamond plates. I do not find my stones clog up though.
The SiC are just very irregular, wear fast and will easily scratch your mirror polish, the broken abrasive also a hassle to clean. Sad!
Dec 13, 2017
Gritomatic
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Dec 13, 2017
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Major_InfidelYou can use 8" x 3" stones on Hapstone V7, but it's not handy due to limited visibility of cutting edge.
Dec 13, 2017
Nimitz85
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Dec 22, 2017
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Major_InfidelHere is the link for the bonded diamond stones on gritomatic. https://www.gritomatic.com/products/6-x-1-dual-side-bonded-diamond-full-set
Dec 22, 2017
Major_Infidel
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Dec 22, 2017
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Nimitz85Thanks for the link, admiral. As it turns out, I ordered that very set of stones (along with an 8000 grit Nagura Stone) last week. They arrived on Monday and I’ve been blissfully using them with my Edge Pro Apex touching up my entire stock of 10V, 110V, ZDP-189, 20CV, M390, CTS-20CP, Maxamet, M4 and HAP40 blades ever since. Yes, they might be a tad slower than my DMT diamond hones, but the edges now seem much more refined and I expect these stones will last much longer. I can hardly wait until this Hapstone V7 drop is delivered so that I can try out these stones with that set up.
Dec 22, 2017
AngryAccountant
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Dec 22, 2017
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Major_InfidelYeah, that set's fantastic. It made (what seemed like) quick work on some D2 I was sharpening as well as the not impossible to sharpen S35VN. The 2000 grit actually gets pretty close to a mirror finish for me, kinda like its foggy. Be aware that the 2000 grit Venev is about 1.2 microns, I'm not sure how the 8000 grit Nagura converts to microns, but it might be larger than that.
Dec 22, 2017
Major_Infidel
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Dec 22, 2017
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AngryAccountantThanks for that, AA. I’m actually only using the Nagura stone on the Venev hones to help them maintain their flatness and keep them from loading up.
If I want a finish more refined that the 2000 grit Venev hone can provide, I’ve been transitioning over to my Edge Pro glass blanks with the 3000 and 6000 self adhesive polishing tapes applied.
Dec 22, 2017
AngryAccountant
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Dec 22, 2017
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Major_InfidelThat would do it for sure. I've gotta get me some of those PSA tapes
Dec 22, 2017
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