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JakeRoberts
240
Jul 18, 2018
I got mine yesterday, and having not paid attention to the dimensions, I was struck at how freaking tiny it is! I paired it up with the Ostry KC09 IEMs that also arrived yesterday and the sound quality is great for such a small, overall package.
Unfortunately, the firmware still needs a lot of work and the physical control buttons have an issue where they register multiple presses from just one actuation. I'm running the firmware that came stock with the unit, version 1.01 Beta, and right now the back, enter, up and down buttons register multiple times when pressed only once. That makes it very, very hard to play a song or make a selection from menus.
By default, the AP60 Pro came with hi-gain mode enabled. On initial startup the unit hung up asking for an SDXC card to be inserted, which required a reboot to get it to boot normally. Upon first boot I was presented with the main menu; going into System Settings by pressing Enter once registered as two clicks, which launched me straight into menu language selection. Thankfully, English is the default language when you enter, but I can easily see people changing the language by accident due to the extreme sensitivity of the buttons.
Having set up the player, I inserted a 128GB Samsung Evo SDXC card which contains 875 songs. The player ingested around 10 to 15 songs a second, which wasn't bad at all. I'm still in the process of reorganizing my library for SDXC cards, so this is only a fraction of the 5,000+ songs I have. Still, pretty fast media ingestion.
Sound from the ESS Sabre 9018 is very nice, and the AP60 Pro didn't have problems driving the KC09 IEMs. I tried them briefly with the Fiio FH1 hybrid and the Campfire Polaris hybrid, and both sounded great. Sound is no problem, but the control buttons are.
No matter how careful I am with pressing the buttons once, they activate multiple times at least 90 percent of the time. This makes making selections really freaking hard... selecting albums launches you past the album and into the songs list due to the sensitivity issue. The same thing happens when navigating through folders.
The thing is, you hold down the Enter\Play button during music playback to access a second, radial menu that has options for low and hi-gain, music playback (repeat once, repeat all, shuffle, etc.), as well as options to add a song to a play list, favorite it, erase from the SDXC card, and so on. But again, due to the issue with the buttons, you pretty much end up selecting things you didn't want to do.
Another issue is that I haven't been able to get the AP60 Pro to recognize playlists. As configured, the SDXC card stores all music in a "My Music" folder I created using MusicBee. So the folder hierarchy is root\My Music\Artist Name\Album Name\music files. The M3U playlists are stored in root, and they properly point to where the music is stored on the SDXC card. Still, the AP60 Pro fails to see the playlists. Album, Artist and Genre navigation due work, and at least in Album navigation songs appear in the correct order, but I'm guessing that has to do more with the tags I placed using MusicBee, including song order. The Hiby R6 recognizes playlists stored this way, but the AP60 Pro doesn't. One thing the AP60 Pro does that the R6 doesn't is to properly list albums in alphabetical order.... for some reason the R6 lists albums any which way it damn pleases...
A second issue I found is that gapless playback cuts off the first second or first two seconds of every song. Also, pressing the Enter\PLay button cuts off the first one or two seconds of every song. This happens with both MP3 and FLAC files (don't have DSD files, so can't test if it also happens with those).
A third issue is the fact that playback controls get locked out once the screen shuts off. No matter how many times you hit Enter or the up and down buttons to change tracks, they do nothing unless the screen is on. The controls work when you're in the clock screen, so you don't even have to go back to the player screen to get them to work, but it's annoying. Volume controls do work while the screen is in standby, sound continues to play and it plays the next track when another ends. And I do have Power Saving Shutdown and Scheduled Power Off disabled. You can configure the volume buttons to act as track skip and rewind, but then you can't control the volume...
Finally, the AP60 Pro can take anywhere from five to 10 seconds to resume playback when coming off of standby. Hitting Enter\Play when you turn the screen on, you hear a click on the IEMs, which I interpret to mean they are getting a current again, but the music takes a long time to play... you have to press Enter\Play many times to get the AP60 to respond. So this could be either a firmware issue, an issue with the processor taking a long time to resume from standby, or yet another downside to the overly sensitive control buttons.
Portability is awesome, the screen is pretty sharp for its size and the sound reproduction is more than capable, but between the buggy firmware and the problematic control buttons, I'm considering returning the AP60 Pro for a refund. I don't think the button sensitivity issue can be fixed via firmware (seems to be the mechanism is physically broken or not working properly), and based on the experience from users of the AP60 II, its a problem that also plagued that unit.
jotry
47
Aug 6, 2018
JakeRobertsI was wondering if anyone was having problems with double clicks. That has been most annoying. There's been some other quirks that happen here and there that I can't think of at the moment, but the double clicks is the most glaring problem for me.
I'm well pleased with the unit working as I want it to with setting the volume keys allowing me to change tracks while driving. I wish it was a bit bigger so I could glance at it to see what was playing easier, but I could always buy something else. For the cost so far I'm enjoying it. I have a pair of bluetooth headphones coming soon and I'm going to test out how the bluetooth functionality of it is. Most of my use to this point is just driving in the car.
JakeRoberts
240
Aug 6, 2018
jotryFortunately, MassDrop had some leftover units and they sent out a replacement... but now I have to wait another month for the replacement to get here. Also, they are not allowed to test replacements, so I'm hoping the new unit works properly.
If you haven't bought them yet, try to get Bluetooth headphones with AptX support, or if the cables are replaceable, get the second revision of the Mee Audio BTX 1 Bluetooth cables. The quality is much better compared to earlier audio transmission BT profiles.
Better yet, if you already have a pair of IEMs with replaceable cables, just get the BTX 1s, or an equivalent cable for full-size headphones. It will be cheaper than getting IEMs/headphones with integrated BT.
jotry
47
Aug 6, 2018
JakeRobertsThanks for the suggestions. Already did happen to get a pair of bluetooth headphones with AptX support. I have a few IEMs around, but overall see little use. Just not as comfortable as headphones, but great to have when space is really tight!
I'm curious what Hidizs has to say on the matter so I sent them a message, too. I'll try to remember to post what they have to say on the matter. Sometimes my memory is notoriously bad. I have a feeling I'll remember to posting though!
JakeRoberts
240
Aug 6, 2018
jotryNo problem. Do let me know if they reply!
jotry
47
Aug 6, 2018
JakeRobertsSo far just asking if I upgraded to the latest firmware which I did. Just let them know that didn't work.
jotry
47
Aug 27, 2018
JakeRobertsDid you get your replacement yet and tested it to see if that resolved the problem?
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