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OlivierPons
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Sep 19, 2017
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This is not crossposting, just a summary: Am I the only one who tries to compile using kiibohd source code?
git clone https://github.com/kiibohd/controller.gi cd Keyboards ./ergodox.bash
Plug the left hand of the Infinity Ergodox, push reset and do:
sudo dfu-util -D linux-gnu.ICED-L.gcc.make/kiibohd.dfu.bin
It works, it's transfered, but my ergodox doesnt work and send bad keys (just typing once sends 2 keys for almost all the keyboards keys). Any solution?
Sep 19, 2017
OlivierPons
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Sep 19, 2017
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OlivierPonsCompilation fails.
It's like a car's vendor who sells car and say "ok you've bought you car 8 months ago, now you just can use its basic functions, even though you paid the maximum price, because we're working on other stuff".
As an amateur, as an enthusiast, this is ok. But here's we're in the professional world, you sell things. When people pay for something they should get the quality they pay for. The Infinity Ergodox is one of the most expensive keyboard of the world, and you dont have the tools to customize it properly. What you give on Internet is buggy.
This doesnt work out of the box, conclusion: this is totally un-professional.
What a shame.
And when using the online configurator here : https://configurator.input.club/?layout=MDErgo1-Default, try to put only ƒ1 and ƒ2 on the main layer. So, each time you press a key, this should only change layer temporarily right? Even when you type on all keys that haveƒ1 and ƒ2, you should be able to type many times without something happening on your computer, right?
This is working... if you dont type fast. If you type a bit fast on two different keys, they some random keys are sent to the screen !!!
So I've paid for a Ferrari, but the wheels are bicycle's wheels. I've been taken for a ride.
I've spent something like $3000 on Massdrop, and this is the second Infinity Ergodox I buy, because the first one had manufacturing problem and the right LCD doesnt work properly. I'll send this one, because I've never used it (no joke). I really thought that in two years, they would have improved.
This is almost not the case: there's still so much room for improvement that I can't say "I paid for a professional keyboard".
I'm so pi**ed off right now, Linux installation because they can't make proper use of Windows ("use a Ubuntu vm" under Windows what an answer!)
I can't use my new Infinity Ergodox and I'm still forced to use the old one (three years old, not the Infinity Ergodox, just the Ergodox) which works better.
What a burning shame.
No help on the community, no help on the forums, no help on github, no help here, not talking about the fact that: - there's no clear forum for hardware problem, or software problem, so everybody posts here and pray for a bit of help (which happens only when it's not about the Infinity Ergodox (watch what I bought here you'll see I know what I'm talking about, I've been on a lot of different drops)) - the discussion here is a non-sense from a user point of view: every conversation is mixed with another one, you have to scroll down, see the advert, and wait (!!) for the older posts to appear, WTF! Is this a joke? - the colors of editing / adding a post are exactly the same than the posts you read! It's impossible to differenciate my long post here with the other posts when I scroll with my mouse - when you make a long post here if you edit it, and scroll with your mouse (wheel) on the top and left-click, it brings you down! WTF if you want to edit what you've written on the top? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You want to hear more about technical stuff? If I buy the Infinity it's only for the LCD. For fun. For showing off, let's be fair. So you are supposed to do whatever you want with the display, right? Let's go deeper. You're on the layer 0. You press a key to activate layer 1: ƒ1 and you keep it pressed, you go to layer 1. You see on the screen "1". Nice. If you press ƒ2 then you go on layer 2. You see on the screen "12". Nice, you have the clue that you come from layer 1 to layer 2, and if you release, you'll come back to 1.
Two incredibly stupid and useless things come from that: - you can only configure a matrix of the 1/4th of the screen, because the LCD is divided in 4 parts, to show which layers "override" (up to 4 of course) - this implies that: - you can't easily see on which layer you are (if you see 1457 please tell me on which layer I am? PLEASE TELL ME) - you can have the "clue" of the layer (if there's only one) of 1/4th of the screen! When I bought the Infinity Ergodox I thought: well I have layer 0= base, layer 1 = numpad, I want to see "Numpad" on the WHOLE LCD. Layer 2 = For gaming, I want to see "For gaming" on the WHOLE LCD. BUT YOU CANT. Maximum size = 1/4th of the LCD screen. This is not a joke.
Display up to 4 clues for the layers is f***in useless. Who cares? Seriously, honestly, WHO CARES.
MD should be honest and precise this, when they sell the Infinity Ergodox: Unless you are deep in electronics an C programming : - only the layer 0 is 100% customizable - the other layers will occupy 1/4th of the LCD
I'm wondering right now if I make a nice article and send it to my 17k contacts on LinkedIn: you are supposed to sell a finished product the buyer can assemble and solder, and customize to his/her needs. You sell a product that is supposed to be 100% customizable, NKRO, and this is not the case (see explanations above).
And the worse thing in my opinion is that you can't do macros as long as you've not compiled the sources, and you CANT compile the sources right now.
It is unacceptable.
Correcting bugs has to be your #1 priority before making anything new.
Sep 19, 2017
HerAres
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Sep 19, 2017
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OlivierPonsHmm, I've only used the windows tool recommended on input clubs site. I'll boot up Linux, see how it fares and get back to you.
Sep 19, 2017
aenertia
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Sep 19, 2017
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OlivierPonsUse QMK.
Sep 19, 2017
OlivierPons
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Sep 20, 2017
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aenertiaIt's not my kind of behavior to be aggressive, but when you sell product to a scale like 1000 keyboards / months you have to handle problems and bugs in a more professional way and this is not the case right now. FYI, here's what I've done:
git clone --recursive https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware.git cd qmk_firmware/
Then I've plugged the right side of my Infinity Ergodox, pushed its Reset button and typed:
sudo make ergodox_infinity-default-dfu-util MASTER=right
Then same opération for the left:
sudo make ergodox_infinity-default-dfu-util MASTER=left
Not only everything ran smoothly, but the LCD screen: - changes its whole image every 2s, this implies that you can change the **whole image however you like** (on the contrary to kiibohd where you just can change layer 0) - is off all the time except when you go to layer 1, where it's RED. This implies the code can change the colors too.
And the macro which prints the version of the qmk firmware is working too! Press one key = send the version of the qmk firmware.
I guess this will code will be hard for me to understand, but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to do whatever I want with the qmk firmware.
So I'll do what I do for my old Ergodox (not infinity): go for the qmk firmware. What a slap in the face for the kiibohd controller which is supposed to be the backbone of the Infinity Ergodox.
Sep 20, 2017
MagicSmoke
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Sep 21, 2017
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OlivierPonsI know you know the Kiibohd source is broken for IED. Just mentioning it here in case anyone is wondering.
The firmware from the Configurator site is still OK as it is older / from February.
Sep 21, 2017
OlivierPons
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Sep 21, 2017
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MagicSmokeThis just implies you cant do macros, you cant do mouse move, you cant configure the LCD. Not professional. End of the story.
Sep 21, 2017
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