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vvlierberghe
Dec 23, 2017
I can't believe that almost 4000 people are willing to pay for a keyboard that doesn't even go through a quality check during packaging and shipping. So many right handed pcb's kit with bad stabilizers and lost screws, etc.
This drop is a BIG FAILLURE. DON'T BUY THIS KIT...
BUYERS BEWARE. You can lose your money here.
Chloros
54
Dec 23, 2017
vvlierbergheWell to be honest now that the EZ is available I'd tend to favour it over the Infinity… if I had the money. I think the reason why any one client here is willing to pay for that keyboard with no quality check whatsoever is because they're lured by the former glory Massdrop gained by promising heavily reduced prices due to mass discounts. Long story short, if all those 4K people really commit to buy that kit, they hope to get the keyboard for half the price of the EZ. Also, I do believe many would consider the complaints of a couple of vocal clients after selling several thousands of keyboards somewhat unrepresentative of the product's quality, since Massdrop is, after all, community-oriented: you'd usually get way more "don't buy it" than you and Andrew, don't you think? But you're right on the fact that the lack of quality check, after-sale service, hotline support and possibly poor manufacturing of the parts & components are definitely liable to deter a good number of customers from committing at all, and if the bargain for this keyboard is not hard enough to save a really big chunk over what you can buy with all the good perks of the EZ, you really won't have to worry about the Infinity getting that many people involved. Mammon rules, m'kay?
vvlierberghe
Dec 24, 2017
ChlorosI agree with you.. Mostly.
The infinity ergodox is as expensive as the ergodox ez. With shipping, custom taxes and custom clearance once arrived at my door to belgium. (another 60 euro's to pay to hand it over.)

As a product and concept, the infinity has many more advantages. Ex. USB3 for reduced latency(i'm aware that we are pushing keystrokes not big data, but i just don't like a headphone jack connection).
LCD screens so you have an idea on which layer you are. (Good if you have 30+ layers active at the time.)
I would rather dive deep into the firmware source code to program advanced features than using a easy to use, rather limited web based software.
They are almost both the same hardware/software speaking.
The infinity just look more appealing to me as a programmer and hardware building geek. Who makes a lifelong living and career from computer science. I have wasted my entire childhood on a keyboard and computer screen. So i'm a computer science child prodigy.

My typing speed with a rubber dome keyboard on programmer dvorak was 30wpn. At the age of 17, i bought a blank daskeyboard with mx blue switches and quickly my typing speed went to 60-80wpn. Instantly hooked. I wonder what it would be like to increase typing speed again with the ergodox.
But now i realize that i am typing on a layout from before the computer was even invented.
The price is pretty much the same for me.
vvlierberghe
Dec 24, 2017
ChlorosChloros,
I hope that they at least learned from their mistake with this drop and not do it again, as this is the first time a disaster like this occurred.
Chloros
54
Dec 24, 2017
vvlierbergheIf the Infinity turns out to be as expensive as the EZ in the end this drop is pretty much good as dead simply because of those defaults we already mentioned earlier. Unlike you I'm not a keyboard connoisseur, despite my background in electronic engineering. However, I do need fast typing because I'm a velotypist and the Ergodox is pretty much one of those keyboards that I envision to provide me with some sort of comfort both at my workstation and for my everyday typing.
Hardware-wise, I don't exactly consider the USB 3.0 to provide any form of benefit whatsoever for a keyboard and I hardly see the point of these LCD panels, I heard they're [censored] hard to tweak so they might as well just be replaced by SSDs and that wouldn't change a thing. What I'm really wondering about is the N-key rollover which I hope is really efficient, there's not even a chance that the Ergodox can beat the RealKey™ of my Cherry MX Board 6.0 but that would definitely be worth assessing. Another element which I'm really worried about is the size of the keyboard, because… how can I put it·… ‘I have big hands’? All the videos I've seen online are reviews by people with cute girly little hands. Granted, I'm no gorilla-sized but it's a thing, really.
What I mean is, just like those 4K potential clients, I'm interested by the Ergodox because of Massdrop's bargaining power to somehow sweeten the bill for a keyboard with potential. I was sad to learn about Andrew's case and it's really one of those situations where you realize that the drop is only a big fat bet or a loot box: You may end up with a rather cool keyboard or a cardboard of e-junk. So yeah, I do hope that Massdrop and their suppliers at least learn from their mistakes. I just don't blame the sods who're willing to try that bet.
vvlierberghe
Dec 25, 2017
ChlorosChloros, I do have smaller hands, about a medium size. I think that it would be the same as any mechanical keyboard.
Using 3D printing and CAD, you can turn the infinity ergodox into a infinity dactylus ergodox. https://www.ergodox.io/ section 3.1. That's why the ergodox ez is not a 100% for me.
Kinesis advantage 2 on steriods.
I like the kinesis advantage 2 also, but it lacks the programmability of the infinity ergodox. Because i type in programmer dvorak and not in classic dvorak.
I will take the bet. $$$
alysdexia
26
Aug 24, 2018
vvlierbergheWhat in the hell is wpn? On slider and dome QWERTY I could/can do 111 WPM.
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