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basepi
62
Jun 2, 2015
Would also love an update. Been hoping against hope this will actually ship in June, but my optimism is waning.
Qudeid
63
Jun 2, 2015
basepiCount me in on that statement as well! Feels like an eternity. At least I had time to transition from QWERTZ (German) to now Colemak (albeit still a bit slow)
weehooherod
88
Jun 2, 2015
QudeidColemak master race reporting in.
OneMoreGottaGo
33
Jun 3, 2015
weehooherod6 weeks in and loving it. Only concern now is switching to the horizontal staggered layout. Colemak feels great though already even the word 'you' rolls nicely.
OneMoreGottaGo
33
Jun 3, 2015
basepiI'm just hoping the boards are well made and I don'tess up soldering the switches in. Time to start sourcing LEDs
primitivetype
58
Jun 3, 2015
basepiEstimated ship date is June 29, 2015. It says this at the bottom of the description page. It's been there since they put the page up.
Iaeen
277
Jun 3, 2015
primitivetypeYes, we all saw that, but as you point out it has been there since the beginning. Back then, the keyboard was in early development, and the date is a very rough estimate. Hopefully they have a better idea now, hence the request for an update.
dylanmc
91
Jun 4, 2015
IaeenAgreed, the description says "Estimated ship date is June 29, 2015" - if they're really shipping in about 3 weeks, it seems like we'd have had an update or five by now. Since we haven't heard anything, this date now seems a bit at risk. Communicate, please!
primitivetype
58
Jun 4, 2015
IaeenGood point. I didn't gather that from your comments, but you're right, an update would be nice. Maybe no news is good news?
basepi
62
Jun 4, 2015
QudeidTrying to decide if I should wait to switch to colemak until the ergodox comes....confuse my brain and fingers all at once, or stagger it...?
Qudeid
63
Jun 4, 2015
OneMoreGottaGoEverything rolls so nicely.. Can't type properly on QWERTZ anymore xD.. At work that's annoying when on a colleague's PC. But well... Like @weehooherod said. Master race, hue hue!
basepiYour fingers will be so confused by the ergodox that they won't notice the extra confusion from colemak.
I wish I'd picked up colemak when I was learning my ergodox rather than waiting :(
elpeterson
213
Jun 4, 2015
OneMoreGottaGoMax keyboards has 110 packs for $20. I just swapped the Corsair blue LEDs in my K70 with white ones from Max Keyboards.
basepiHave you heard of/considered Colemak? It's even less jumping than dvorak and keeps some important keys in the same spot as QWERTY, such as C and V so you don't have to relearn copy/paste commands: http://colemak.com/
basepi
62
Jun 10, 2015
ferretwithasporkYep, colemak is the one I'm planning to use. =)
Qudeid
63
Jun 10, 2015
ferretwithasporkThat's the one I'm using right now and that he also said a few posts up this conversation :). It's just incredible how much less the hand moves compared to QWERTZ. And as a Programmer that had go put up with the quirks of a German keyboard, it's even more amazing!
Qudeid
63
Jun 10, 2015
RagingRooseveltWhen I decided for the Dox in this drop, I said that I won't keep the pesky QWERTZ. I immediately started learning using Tarmak (iterative way to colemak). Worth! Still not at the speed I was before, but I'm getting there.
The main reason actually was, that I wasn't used to keeping my hands really separated when typing which, obviously, would be a big problem with the Dox. That part should be settled now :D.
Haulien
428
Jun 11, 2015
basepi@basepi, @Qudeid, the Workman layout is also an option if you're changing away from QWERTY/QWERTZ/AZERTY. Bit more efficient than Colemak.
Workman layout:
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There's a good post here about it: http://www.workmanlayout.com/blog/?p=21
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The maltron layout is also an option for a more efficient layout (the E key is on the thumb cluster) and can be used pretty easily on the ErgoDox.
Maltron layout:
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Qudeid
63
Jun 11, 2015
HaulienEssentially, Colemak was after a lot of research the most sensible one without investing too much into it. It is hella efficient and, while there is more efficient stuff out there, the value they give on top of Colemak's is little, in my opinion and, for me, not enough to invest more into it as there are more keys that have changed. Much like I never would have changed to Dvorak for the exact same reason.
weehooherod
88
Jun 11, 2015
QudeidColemak's ubiquity is an advantage over Workman. OS X, Linux, Android, and iOS have Colemak built in.
Qudeid
63
Jun 11, 2015
weehooherodWhich isn't much of a factor in Windows, though. There is always a way to get the layout working where you need it. Like I said to me the effort/efficiency calculation was more important. I just love it right now, while my colleagues curse me, when they want to type something with my keyboard :D.
amencarini
7
Jun 12, 2015
weehooherodiOS doesn't have it built-in AFAIK, and if it does I need it :D
Iaeen
277
Jun 12, 2015
amencariniQWERTY (or other language equivalents) is the only layout supported for the on screen keyboard, but it might have a Colmak setting for for attached bluetooth keyboards.
I don't use Colmak, so I don't know. I do know Dvorak is supported for bluetooth keyboards, and I would bet that if Colmak is supported in OS X, it is also on iOS.
dragon788
69
Jun 13, 2015
weehooherodAdditional advantage is if you monitor their forums they actually have a couple tweaks to colemak that make it MORE efficient than Workman, and Tarmak still works (with tweaks). :) That's my plan for making the jump.
dragon788
69
Jun 13, 2015
IaeeniOS has Dvorak and possibly colemak, you add it under "Additional languages" because the key layout is based on your "speaking" language even though Colemak/Dvorak/Qwerty are mostly language agnostic (but not enough keys for most Nordic languages).
MrRooks
18
Jun 17, 2015
elpetersonWow $20 for 110 LEDs! That's steep as hell. Check eBay. You can get 100 packs for less than $10, free shipping.
elpeterson
213
Jun 17, 2015
MrRooksFlangeless LEDs were hard to come by in my search. Plus I was worried about voltages. The white LEDs that came with my SparkFun kit wouldn't light up.
Iaeen
277
Jun 17, 2015
elpetersonI found a better 3mm flangeless selection on ebay than they have on the site you recommend, and unlike your site, the ebay listings give the voltage of the LEDs. For more than 75% off, I'll take the risk of them not working.
MrRooks
18
Jun 24, 2015
elpetersonSearch for 2x3x4 LED on ebay and you'll get tons. I bought some orange ones.
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