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jmacie
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Jun 13, 2017
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So I do understand induction has a lot higher btu than everyday gastops, so if gastops max out at 500° F, how will this Ironate perform at that lower temp? Not any comparisons on the web I can see.
PACoug
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Jun 13, 2017
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jmacieThe video focuses on performance on the stovetop. They mention that insanely high temperature to let you know it is capable of performing like a brick oven if placed in a hot enough coal bed.
Just a bit too much money for me. I get very nice results in my Weber kettle (which I already have) on a cast iron pizza pan, which cost me $20. It's a great pizza oven, especially if you drop a chunk of mesquite in the coals.
Just a bit too much money for me. I get very nice results in my Weber kettle (which I already have) on a cast iron pizza pan, which cost me $20. It's a great pizza oven, especially if you drop a chunk of mesquite in the coals.
jmacie
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Jun 13, 2017
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PACougThanks, I'm a chef, I understand btu, induction, chinese gas jets, and pure electric coils. And induction burner is gonna give the potential to heat to 825°F, a conventional gastop is gonna be in the range of 400-500°F. The videos are induction, and I wanna know what to expect from a gastop rated at 12500 btu /or 450° F. I cooked pizza way back when in italian bricks and in metal decks, and if you try this carbon steel on a regular gas stove it's not gonna perform IMHO, and I wanted someone to justify a $120 purchase for me
PACoug
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Jun 13, 2017
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jmacieAgree. You are going to have something you can cook a pizza in but it's not going to magically make you the owner of a brick oven.
For pizza bakers on a budget I recommend leaving a cast iron pizza pan in your Weber charcoal grill, stoking it like the fires of hell and when it's preheated as hot as it's gonna go then bake your pizzas. Works great and gives a nice smoky flavor.
For pizza bakers on a budget I recommend leaving a cast iron pizza pan in your Weber charcoal grill, stoking it like the fires of hell and when it's preheated as hot as it's gonna go then bake your pizzas. Works great and gives a nice smoky flavor.
IRONATE
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IRONATE
Jun 16, 2017
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jmacieYou have to look at power output. Induction stovetops have aprox. 2000W output, give or take. That is comparable to a standard gas burner and most larger gas burners have more power, up to 4000W.
We have tested IRONATE on many surfaces, but the video and most of the development was done on a low end ceramic-glass stove for aprox. $250 with a power output of 2200W. IRONATE performs even better on gas stove, and it really flies if you have a large, powerful burner available (large middle burners usually have 3500W or 4000W output).
We have tested IRONATE on many surfaces, but the video and most of the development was done on a low end ceramic-glass stove for aprox. $250 with a power output of 2200W. IRONATE performs even better on gas stove, and it really flies if you have a large, powerful burner available (large middle burners usually have 3500W or 4000W output).
jmacie
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Jun 16, 2017
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IRONATEsince gas burners are not rated in wattage, I'm pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about. With that in mind, you might want to read my previous post about BTU. A gas stovetop is ONLY going to put out 500 ° F at it's MAX, most gas are lower @450° F range. That is NOT going to make a pizza properly. I cooked pizza for a living
IRONATE
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IRONATE
Jun 16, 2017
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jmacieWatt is a measurement of power. BTU means British Thermal Unit. When used in context of cooking and heating, the unit is actually BTU per hour but is abbreviated to just BTU. BTU/hour is a measurement of power as well, so it is easy to convert to Watts.
1 BTW = aprox. 0,3 Watts. So, 12500 BTU gas burner has a power output of aprox. 3700W.
This, however, has nothing to do with the temperature. You can't just convert BTU to temperature. Propane and Butane gas burns at around 3600 degrees Fahrenheit, not 500. If enough power is applied, it could, in theory, heat up the pan to that temperature. In practice, there are loses between the flame and the pan, the pan radiates heat and it cools down so the temperatures are much lower.
Induction stoves are generally lower powered. Around 2000W (which converts to "only" around 7000 BTU), but they are more efficient. Around 90%, gas only at around 60%. Still, a typical household gas stove has enough power to heat up IRONATE to advertised temperatures and with more powerful gas burners, you can get even better results even faster.
With a grill burner like the one on the photo (9000W or 30.000 BTU), you can get IRONATE up to a working temperature in 4 to 5 minutes and you can make one pizza after another only a minute apart.
1 BTW = aprox. 0,3 Watts. So, 12500 BTU gas burner has a power output of aprox. 3700W.
This, however, has nothing to do with the temperature. You can't just convert BTU to temperature. Propane and Butane gas burns at around 3600 degrees Fahrenheit, not 500. If enough power is applied, it could, in theory, heat up the pan to that temperature. In practice, there are loses between the flame and the pan, the pan radiates heat and it cools down so the temperatures are much lower.
Induction stoves are generally lower powered. Around 2000W (which converts to "only" around 7000 BTU), but they are more efficient. Around 90%, gas only at around 60%. Still, a typical household gas stove has enough power to heat up IRONATE to advertised temperatures and with more powerful gas burners, you can get even better results even faster.
With a grill burner like the one on the photo (9000W or 30.000 BTU), you can get IRONATE up to a working temperature in 4 to 5 minutes and you can make one pizza after another only a minute apart.
IRONATE
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IRONATE
Jun 16, 2017
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jmacieLPG is a mixture of butane, propane and some other gases. Its composition is not the same in all parts of the world, but generally, it burns at around the same temperatures. Around 3600 degrees Fahrenheit.
We are looking into making another video with all the different heat sources. Gas being one, but also kettle grill, camp fire etc.
We are looking into making another video with all the different heat sources. Gas being one, but also kettle grill, camp fire etc.
timo
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Aug 26, 2017
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IRONATEmostly love the science-based smackdown you're placing here. anyone who has heated a piece of steel on a gas burner knows that it will reach *at least* 1000ºF with no problems after a few minutes, whatever the "rating" of the burner may be.
however, the nominal rating *is* a factor for the rest of the stove, since consumer stovetops don't have a very rugged construction and can mechanically fail (sometimes disastrously) if regularly pushed to such high temperatures. how much testing have you done with this failure mode?
however, the nominal rating *is* a factor for the rest of the stove, since consumer stovetops don't have a very rugged construction and can mechanically fail (sometimes disastrously) if regularly pushed to such high temperatures. how much testing have you done with this failure mode?
IRONATE
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IRONATE
Aug 27, 2017
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timoHi timo. IRONATE does reach high temperatures, but so does other cookware. Stoves are generally made to withstand this. Many traditional recipes require you to preheat cast iron skillet for 10, 15 minutes before searing or stir frying your food.
We have tested IRONATE od dozens of different stoves, ranges and burners. The only type of heat source we had problems with, were the cheap, portable induction plates. Thay have a temperature cut-off built in and they turn off before you can reach high enough temperatures to make a decent pizza.
We have tested IRONATE od dozens of different stoves, ranges and burners. The only type of heat source we had problems with, were the cheap, portable induction plates. Thay have a temperature cut-off built in and they turn off before you can reach high enough temperatures to make a decent pizza.
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