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Italix Commodore's Credential Fountain Pen

Italix Commodore's Credential Fountain Pen

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This one looks really neat, and my previous Italix pen has been a joy to handle. Still, the price is rather high compared to buying directly from MrPen in UK for us in the EU at least. On Amazon, you might break even, but they don't have nearly as many nib options.
If the cap does NOT post, then why does it still say: Length, posted: 5.7 in (14.5 cm) in the description area? Does the cap post or not? Please correct or change the description area, as needed.
STORMY_PENS
Cap does not post. Disregard that measurement
I have been very happy with mine, and I have found the nib glassy smooth. I think there are a couple of things to be aware of. As mentioned below, the section can unscrew instead of the cap. This becomes more pronounced with use, as the barrel threads loosen and the user inevitably gets some ink into the threads for the cap making those stickier. Second, my clip broke off. If you examine pictures of the cap carefully, you can see that it is a single strip of metal bent to create the clip. There is no reinforcement at the bend, and mine weakened quickly before snapping off. Also, I don’t post my pens; this one does not allow the user to post.
These are the negatives to think about. The positives? You can get a beautiful (this is the most attractive of the Italix pens imho), distinctive writer for much less money than anywhere else. This pen can go into the boardroom easily, and I find the medium italic oblique cut to write majestically. People who spend ridiculous amounts on pens will notice and appreciate yours. And people who don‘t will admire your handwriting without knowing why.
Total rubbish. Regardless of any other feature this pen may have, the inability to post the cap renders it completely useless to me. Unlike the pen Brown reviews in the video below, my cap isn't "somewhat" difficult to post, it's impossible to post--as if that feature was of no concern to the design or manufacture of the pen in the first place. So, without posting, what you end up with is a barrel that is too short and too light to grip comfortably. The plastic section feels cheap and tapers at such an angle that the tighter one grips it, the further one's fingers slide down to the nib itself. I don't have a scale, but the with the cap in one hand and the rest of the pen in the other, the cap feels noticeably heavier than the rest of the pen--I'd estimate the cap comprises 2/3rds of the pens entire weight--meaning that what initially feels like a substantial pen in the hand, is reduced to a cheap feeling, featherweight pen once the cap is removed.
I see the commenter below mentions the "mirror finish" of the pen. I suppose that was one of the features that contributed to my purchase decision as well. Let me assure you, the pen looks much better in the photograph, than it does in your hand.
I am tempted to skip any discussion of the nib because without the ability to employ it, what's the use of it?! None the less, for those readers with small hands and vise-grip fingers, the nib isn't half bad. I chose the italic nib suggested for left-handed users. Looking down at the nib, the cut slopes down from right to left. The design prevents the sharp edge of a typical italic nib from digging into the page as a left-handed person writes. And to that degree, the design works, but for the reasons listed above, my experience actually writing with the pen was short and unenjoyable. My advice is to avoid this pen. I don't recall what I paid for it (and I hope to hell it isn't what Brown quoted), but if I were to estimate it's worth, I'd value it's worth at $15, and no more. For all it's German design and engineering roots, I have paid less than ten dollars for Chinese pens that are far more usable than this MISTAKEN purchase. And one more thought--why did I wait two months for the pen to arrive? Is this the Massdrop model? Not impressed.
RayF
Thanks for the heads up. My Edison pens do not post, but they do not need to (plenty of length). For guys with big hands, a pen needs to post unless it is sufficiently large.
RayF
Good to hear someone’s experience good or ba. These are indeed things to really consider. I am reading more than a few folks posting about their experience(s) with their pens. I appreciate the information. I had looked at this the last drop, but didn’t join. Seeing it came around again, I am glad to have this discussion forum available. Curious if anyone has contacted Italix or MD regarding their displeasure with their pens, if so has anyone received a reply ? I am thinking I will pass - too many things to consider. Thanks for the feedback
Does anyone know if the section on this pen plastic or metal?
pyeekzero
Plastic.
Watched the SBRE Brown review : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL944Vk0DT0 And even with the 2 main complaints, problems posting and the barrel occasionally unscrewing, the review is very positive. In the video writing sample I think he has the PIN combo down for the nib. Italic Medium and Akkerman Royal Blue - Looks great. I am liking that nib - I think I could over look the 2 issues for a great writing experience. However, it might end up costing a little extra if I need to order some Akkerman Royal Blue ;) I should add - I don't normally post, but - If I did, I a not sure I'd want to with this pen. It has such a great mirror finish, I wouldn't want to risk damaging it by posting -
Has the pen been re-designed so that it now posts securely? Many in the discussion below say the cap does NOT post; Massdrop description says it does. Can we have clarification (my guess is no we can't)?
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writerstephen
Anyone, including Brown, who claims this pen's cap will post AT ALL or to ANY degree, is mistaken. You could try pounding it on with a hammer and it wouldn't post.
RayF
This sounds like bad manufacturing tolerances -- never a good sign.
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Bulk order shipped! The vendor informed us that the group's order was picked up and is on its way to our warehouse in New Jersey. Based on the tracking provided, the order is scheduled to arrive on 11/11.
Expect another update from us on 11/14 or sooner if something comes up.
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Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Italix Commodore's Credential Fountain Pen and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 11/11.
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Are there any import costs or is it just the shipping cause this company is in the uk
I'd also like to express interest in the fine cursive stub. I'd jump on this right now if it were an option. I love my Parson's essential and just want something with a thinner line I can keep inked up.
I wish we had the option of a Fine Cursive Stub like we've had with other models. That's usually my favorite kind of Italix nib. Any explanation for why it's not available at all for this one?
The barrel also untwisted on mine, in addition to the non-posting. I have five other Italix pens and love the brand, especially the low price high performance custom nibs. No problems with any of the other five I have, so I would guess this is an issue of the company working with a new body material and not getting things exactly right. I would suggest new potential buyers start with one of the older more established Italix models like the Parsons Essential (#5 nib) or the Captain's Commission (#6 nib) which appear very frequently on MD.
Update: The model doesn't post. The seller refunded my purchase. Don't buy this model if you want a postable cap.
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No matter how careful I have been with the J. Herbin pens, all have developed cracks along the barrel. I have been very disappointed with the J. Herbin pens and would not recommend them to someone. I have had much better luck with the $1 fountain pens found on Ebay.
Rosebud41
I want a refund too!
Hey, wasn't this supposed to post? My cap cannot be secured on the barrel at all, but instead falls right off when "posted". Does not screw on, does not snap on, just rests loosely and then falls off when writing commences.
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Bulk order shipped! The vendor informed us that the group's order was picked up and is on its way to our warehouse in New Jersey. Based on the tracking provided, the order is scheduled to arrive on 8/2.
Expect another update from us on 8/3 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (https://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the talix Commodore's Credential Fountain Pen and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 8/2.
We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 7/20.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (http://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Here is an online review documenting the (occasionally) unscrewing section:
http://www.holidaychaser.com/vacationvideos/index.php/0TD0kWhaTV449La/Italix-Commodore's-Credential-Fountain-Pen-Review.html
Reviewer here states that extra tightening of the section does usually keep it from unscrewing when cap is unscrewed. Does seem to be a known issue, but as to whether this is a dealbreaker or not will vary from one user to the next. Reviewer in this case speaks very positively of this model's build and performance -- with the issue of the occasionally unscrewing section as the only issue of note.
I own one of these. When you unscrew the cap, the section will unscrew from the barrel. Mr. Pen suggested I screw the section in tighter, which I did and the section still unscrews with the cap. This is a fatal design flaw.
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I contacted him only once, there is no way that I'm the only person who contacted him about this. I own three other pens from the company, and they don't have this issue. This is the only pen from him that I do not use. His nib grinds are nice crisp italics and the pens are dependable writers. I just don't like having the section come out with the cap, and then unscrewing the section and then screwing the section back into the barrel every third time I uncap the pen. BTW, the problem is in the design and can't be altered by tightening things up. It is basic machining. Lefty loosey righty tightey. Much better to have threads on the barrel and cap as opposed to cap and section. The only other solution would be a snap cap. Name any European fountain pen or vintage American pen where the threads for the cap are on the section. As far as I know, there aren't any. The problem was figured out 100 years ago.
scottyC
I think Franklin Christoph has section threads on some twist cap models (e.g the 02 & 03) but those are all acrylic bodies. Maybe the Italix problem with the Commodore is heavy metal cap and heavy metal body linked by light plastic section? Perhaps the mismatch in materials might lead to torque distribution issues. Just a theory! But in any case, thanks for bringing this issue to the attention of this community. It's good to be informed of potential problems in any purchase.
Wow some peoples are harch! I personally own several Italix and I love them for both their affordable price and the quality of the nib grinding!!! I use them as daily writer, and write with them for long hours without any problem, no flow problem, no scratch problem, no problem at all... Easy, simple, stable pens who don't need to be tuned up every day... What can you ask more than that? Mr Ford is one of the best artisan ever in that business... Its my 2 cents...
I would avoid all the Italix products. They are cheap pens and the nibs are not very well reground. They may be low price, but you get what you pay for. I have bought a few, and all are disappointments. You will be happier with a different purchase, even if it costs more, the quality will be worth it.
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ipa789
Italix provides an excellent value and skillfully ground nibs.
totally agree with folks who think highly of their Italix. I have an Essential italic medium, smooth writer but a tiny bit dry. Later on, I bought a captain's commission with broad italic cursive stub. That's it. I am 10000000% satisfied with my Commission, as I couldn't imagine a pen that writes smoother yet produces the nice and crisp-enough line variations. The pens are made of metal and are definitely sturdy, to say the least. They may not be beauty pageants in FP worlds but definitely produce joy in writing. I will only buy italic nibbed pens from MrPen.
Hello everyone, great news to share!
We were able to work for a better cost from our vendor. The new (final) drop price is now $55.99 instead of $65.99. We understand that there might be better deals out there, but please consider international shipping into account for those of you that are shopping outside of UK. MSRP has also been updated, apologies for the system error! All changes should be reflected shortly for those of you that have already joined the drop.
Thank you all for being interested in this drop, and we appreciate your support! :)
I love these Italix pens from England's, MrPen. I have two of the Parsons Essential, The Captains Commission, and Churchman's Prescriptor. These are great pens because they are built well and tuned by hand before they are shipped out. There are youtube reviews for most of the italix line. Recently, I have taken to ordering direct from MrPen. The pen arrives within the week here in Delaware vs. months when coming from massdrop. Right now Mr Pen sells this pen for $51.32. The Massdrop mrsp here is $112.00? Massdrop Lowest price is $65.99. Those are the facts. I understand that there are parts of the world where it makes sense to pay the extra massdrop costs. Each of you have to decide what is best for your situation. Happy writing.
Luke5403
The Pound took a hit courtesy of Brexit. Massdrop must have negotiated this deal pre-Brexit (Prexit?). Mr. Pen, Diamine, Namisu, CultPens... we'll never hear the end of it now.
Luke5403
I just looked it up at the Mr. Pen site, and with the current exchange rate it is only $ 50.43 (37.50 pound). Methinks the MSRP is just a bit overstated.
This nib looks very different from other Italix nibs, like an old MB nib. Does it have any flex/ spring to it?
dedalian
Yes, which in my opinion makes it feel very different from the nibs in the Credential, Commission or Prescriptor. I personally prefer the Italic grinds to be a bit stiffer than this nib and probably would have preferred it as a plain medium. Of the four Italix pens I have, this one is the one I like least. Also the nib unit is removable but if you want to buy an additional one, it costs as much as the pen alone.
dedalian
I was going to post this very thought, except that it looks like a Lamy nib to me.
I'm assuming the 35g weight includes the cap. What is the uncapped weight?