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Jac Zagoory Beta Inkless Curve Pen

Jac Zagoory Beta Inkless Curve Pen

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Featuring a Bauhaus-inspired design, the Jac Zagoory Beta Inkless Curve Pen uses technology that dates back to medieval times, when scholars used a silver tip to write their dissertations. As you write, the patented AXL-METAL tip glides across the page, leaving trails of metal that resemble the gray strokes of a pencil but are totally permanent and smudge-proof Read More

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Clearsound
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Mar 31, 2019
Writing appears too light for me. Thanks for the pics. Also, I wonder if you have to press harder than normal to get legibility.
ZoeFiri
26
Mar 31, 2019
Yeah there's a reason they don't have pics of the kinda' line it lays down.
bobtheaxolotl
104
Mar 30, 2019
I like the claim that it "doesn't run out", which is quite simply a lie. When you're writing here, you're wearing away material from the tip. Of *course* it's going to run out. But I guess that lie sounds better than "runs out, and you can't refill it".
bobtheaxolotlYou are correct that the pen will eventually run out, but the amount of time it would take to wear this down is years upon years. We have tester pens that have been used at trade shows for the past 8 years from the original pen created and they have only used about 1/4 of the tip so far. We have yet to have anyone come to us and say they have finished the point down to the end.
Preston.B
1
Mar 30, 2019
This pen appears to be $30.95 from the retailer’s website: https://www.jzpen.com/products/the-beta-inkless-pen to confirm, is this the same pen you’re massdropping for $30.00 ?
CrypticMetaphr
8
Mar 30, 2019
Preston.BThose don't look exactly the same, I think the pen being dropped is this one: https://www.jzpen.com/collections/pens/products/beta-inkless-curve-pen which they're selling for $44.
bobtheaxolotl
104
Mar 30, 2019
Preston.BIt's the same tip, so it works the same way. But it's not the same handle shape or materials. Regardless, this is one I'm skipping. $30 for a pen you can't refill, and one that can't be used for legal documents. I couldn't use it at work, either, as the writing I do there is all legal/medical in nature. Blue or black only, no wispy metallic grays.
AloofMagician
35
Mar 30, 2019
So, is this better than Napkin Forever Pens? https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Napkin+Forever&ref=nb_sb_noss
AloofMagicianThis is from the original creator of the inkless pen trend. They are completely lead free if that is something you prefer. So the choice is yours on that end, but we prefer the smooth wooden handle of these pens personally.
AloofMagician
35
Apr 2, 2019
JZdesignsok cool!
ljcavanaugh
4
Feb 8, 2019
This looks like a variation of using Silverpoint (95%+ silver tip), since that was what was frequently used in the middle ages and early Renaissance. It was used mostly by the Dutch and German artists, who would use it on their prepared boards to sketch in what they were planning to paint. I have ordered one to check it out, but have done a lot of drawing with silverpoint. You will want to use something like a 400 grit sandpaper to get it started, and also for shaping the point. You don't need to use the sandpaper on the sides - that's not the part you will write with. But you may want to shape the end to your preferred width. I am really curious to see how the metal in this pen has overcome the problem of smooth papers. When I used silverpoint, I always had to prepare the surface with a layer of gouache first.
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nywing
42
Feb 6, 2019
I personally have two of these pens, I call them "Thin" and "Thick" The one they are selling here is the "Thick one"
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I've written here using a bunch of different pens.
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As you can see, it is a bit light when compared to other usual means of writing, and it does give the impression it has been written using a pencil.
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In direct light it will reflect a bit and seem more light in color, but this shot was done with a specific angle to highlight this and you won't usually see this effect / have a light directly above and look straight down like that. Overall, in my experiences, it has been fine on my leuchtturm1917 and I actually prefer the slightly faded color for my eyes.
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random page of notes about a change of information with the government I have been carrying these two pens with me for the past 1/2 year and obviously they won't ever dry (like the felt tip) or break (like the H pencil, NOT shown here because I didn't have a sharpener) or run out. But they are a bit light in color, acceptable (for me) in everyday usage. I haven't actually written hard for any of the photos here, the underline is a little bit harder just because of the way you draw one. Hope this helps! P.S. if this happens to be the only pen on hand when you need to sign an official document, the person receiving it WILL get mad at you and suggest that HOW DARE YOU use a pencil to sign something :)
Junn
1
Feb 6, 2019
nywingThank you for the writing samples!
bzbeer
0
Mar 30, 2019
nywingThanks for the pics and review.
pattmyn
82
Feb 6, 2019
I sadly really mean it when I say this, but it is a complete waste of money. It leaves super faint marks on paper since if you press it too hard you'll rip through most general note paper and even when you do use it on higher quality paper, the markings aren't dark enough and so superficial to leave me confident that they'd last the test of time. Will do sample pics when I get home from work if requested.
pattmyn
82
Mar 30, 2019
Holy crap, I completely forgot about this. I'm going to grab some shots now before I forget.
pattmyn
82
Mar 30, 2019
Holy crap! I completely forgot about this! So here's the "pen" (older version made of metal, but clearly the same thing) and my beat-up Moleskine which is a memento of a late friend of mine.
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Pen to paper, no trickery here folks,
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And the results. For reference, this all was shot on a Note8 with no flash or image editing.
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So maaaaaaybe not the best writing tool on the planet. If you can see the tiny line of blue ink in the second picture, that was from a broad fountain pen (can't remember which) with a blue ink cartridge (not bottled ink). Sorry for the delay!
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MrBean
121
Feb 16, 2018
If there's one thing we know about medieval times, it's that it was the pinnacle of technological advancement.
The_Jniac
322
Feb 6, 2019
MrBeanOh my god, I am dying.
MrDiBs
4
Feb 13, 2018
Pencil / pen is a worthless implement for writing and will become a useless paper weight aswell. If you are looking for something to start the conversation as to "Where did you get this piece of BLANK?" then this is right up your alley. Save your money and spend it on something more substantial, like a bunch of Bics or #2 pencils.
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