trevincan you share more shoes that you have? These will fit roomier than the 65 last but hard to know whether or not to justify taking half size down....need more info
trevinConsensus is that shoes on the J.FitzPatrick TMG last run true to size, very much like the Carmina Rain and Meermin Hiro. This is also true of the Allen Edmonds 511 (1) last (Dundee, Dalton, MDxAE). If your Dundee in US 9D is a perfect fit, order UK 8E.
Also, for reference, the AE 65 (5) runs long and narrow. I'm 8D on Brannock, 8D on the 511 last but 7.5E on the 65 last (all US sizes).
I dint gave many other dress shoes :)
Also, for reference, the AE 65 (5) runs long and narrow. I'm 8D on Brannock, 8D on the 511 last but 7.5E on the 65 last (all US sizes).