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OMG, I LOVE these keycaps (in orange/white)!! If ONLY they supported backlighting, I would find a way to get them! I am dumb, and chose white/orange/black as my personal signature color scheme, which turns out is not used by anybody else on the planet. I love that it makes me unique, but when it comes to buying products that match no one makes anything that does. I am so surprised and delighted to see it here, but I rely on backlighting to see my key legends. My left radial nerve is injured, so I can't home-key type with that hand. I have to hunt-and-peck with my left ring finger and my right hand covers a larger portion of the keyboard than normal.
I will have to continue waiting, but it is great to see a keycap designer using my favorite colors. Maybe this will eventually spread to some of the new PBT double-shot keycaps that support backlighting, but backlit doubleshot ABS would be a great start if in white/orange.
JamesLee
57
Mar 25, 2018
TipsyMacScotchslurpenbacklit keycaps arent on those enthusiast liking list. especially either in GMK or any thick quality keycap manufacturer (beside vortex). So you would be waiting for some time before they did it. Underglow actually more preferable.
JamesLeeYeah, I guess if you are disabled you don't have the luxury of being an enthusiast. Though I would love to see a backlit version of the SA Carbon keycap set, I would honestly be happy with a "plain" set of doubleshot bi-color keycaps (that is, one color for character keys and another color for modifier keys) using generic fonts for the legends, PBT for the keycap, and whatever plastic is handy for the transluscent legend. Obviously I want white with orange modifiers, but they could be produced in any number of color combinations.
That doesn't really rise to the quality of "enthusiast" keycap sets, but it would let me add a personal touch to the appearance of my computer desk.
BlueCrowned
5305
Mar 26, 2018
TipsyMacScotchslurpenHonestly I think you should give up on backlit and just go for Carbon, it's perfect for you and looks way better than most backlit sets.
BlueCrownedDid you read my first post?
Non-backlit is NOT POSSIBLE. Unless I waste electricity lighting my whole room or spend extra money on a fashionable desk lamp that also matches my color scheme, I won't be able to type or game at night (which is when I spend the majority of my time at the computer). I have no alternative to hunt-and-peck typing at my disposal because of a left radial nerve injury. I can't fully open my hand, and I cannot lift my fingers back up off of keys I have pressed with my left hand, so I can't use home keys. I also don't have much feeling in my thumb, index, or middle fingers on that hand, which is why my left hunt-and-pecking is done using my ring finger.
Besides that, I can't help but enjoy my custom backlighting for the keymap/macro layers on my K-type.
Anyway, I'm not here to force some keycap maker to manufacture a bunch of keycaps they don't think they can sell. However, no one will know people want backlighting-capable keycaps in high-quality materials with a good selection of color choices if those of us who do want that don't tell them we do. I don't understand why people would tell a person to "just give up" and buy something they don't want. Why not encourage more options for mechanical keyboard users? I understand that the SA Carbon keycaps wouldn't have the same clean look without their wonderfully designed color scheme, to which the legends contribute. I'm not asking that they put out a new backlit set. I just want a double-shot PBT set of keycaps with backlit legends that has modifier keys in a different color. Heck, I'd buy a full white set and a full orange set and choose keys from each set to make my perfect set if I had to.
Sadly, it seems like many people in the keycap/mech keys "enthusiast" community look down on people who want backlighting (or, in some cases, legends at all) as childish plebians who never learned how to type using the home key method. I don't fit into that category, as I could type fine with my eyes closed before my car accident. Even if I was just someone who never learned to type, I don't know why I wouldn't deserve to have my voice heard as a potential customer, though.
Wolverines
23
Mar 26, 2018
TipsyMacScotchslurpenAre you any good with a soldering iron? You could make an led keyboard light that runs off usb. It won't be the same as backlit keys but it's better than nothing. I made one years ago with dual color leds and it worked good enough to game and type in the dark. It helps if you use an under-desk keyboard tray, as this gives a convenient place to mount a light out of the way.
Just an idea I thought you might find useful.
BlueCrowned
5305
Mar 27, 2018
TipsyMacScotchslurpenI definitely don't think you're childish or anything. I also don't necessarily care whether you use shinethrough caps. I have a set and they look nice. I'm sorry to hear about your injury. I'll let you in on a little secret though:
I have typed with one hand all my life and I use blanks. Homing keys are near useless for me. It's a matter of knowing the pattern of keys on a standard layout, and from there I know where to put my hand. I taught myself to type when I was a little kid and I didn't know what I was doing so I taught myself to type with one hand and never bothered to relearn since I type about 80-90 WPM when I get going. I don't have to hunt and peck, but even if you have to type that way I feel confident that you could definitely manage it even with blank or non-shinethrough caps if you gave it a try. You just have to be able to find the first key and know where all the others are in relation.
As an aside, I had a K-Type for about six months and I was able to enjoy the glow from the backlight even without shinethrough caps. Putting non-shinethrough caps on doesn't just block out the backlight.
BlueCrownedI think you have to have a mind that is capable of that, or you have to have learned to type that way when your mind is young and malleable. When I look at the center of the keyboard I lose my place. I just see a jumbled mess of nothing. My head can only work from the home keys (with their little bumps) because of muscle memory, but that muscle memory only works if my hands stay in a set position. Having to move my right hand to momentarily hit a key my left should have hit forces me to fumble around feeling for the home key bump or look at the keyboard to reset my position. I have to be looking at the keyboard to contribute anything with my left hand.
I spilled a bunch of orange soda into my K-type a week or two after I first got it (naturally), and looking back on it, when I went to put the keys back on I worked from the edges/modifiers in towards the center. I placed keys in phrases like 'qwerty', 'asdf', 'gh', 'jkl', and 'zxcv'. I accidentally swapped semicolon and single-quote, hyphen and equal sign, and 'n' and 'm'. I learned to type in my teens by accident just by trying to keep up with the wall of text that was IRC (internet relay chat, the first real form of text chat on the internet, which is still popular today for certain groups of people -- especially open source software). My ability to type using home keys was all muscle memory, because I could look away from the keyboard and type if I didn't think about it, but when I did think about it and my head didn't know where that key was, I would lose my place. I am not capable of "instantly knowing" where a key on the keyboard is. I have to walk along known keys to find that key. I could do it, but I would be typing at 10 or so words per minute while I fumbled around trying to rationalize where the keys I am trying to find are.
At this point in life I just don't have the years and years of time it would take for me to learn the exact location of every key on the keyboard.
BlueCrowned
5305
Mar 27, 2018
TipsyMacScotchslurpenThat makes sense. Personally while I don't know the *exact* location, if I start from the middle of the board I can do it via muscle memory without needing to look at the board. I also seem to have the entire first row memorized, so if I get off center I can remember that the first row is qwertyuiop and I can re-orient myself that way, or with the homing keys. I did not memorize this on purpose. Just happened that way.
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