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DrewDunn
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Feb 16, 2015
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NikeluI can't tell the difference between Kailh and Cherry browns on my keyboards.
Daan
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Feb 19, 2015
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NikeluSome people prefer the lower price and don't notice the difference. Others however, who are used to Cherry MX, will not even be able to type on it properly, so Massdrop just fullfills the needs of both types of people by dropping Kailhs and Cherry MX boards
Shame this one doesnt have Cherry MX though, they used to anyhow.
Shame this one doesnt have Cherry MX though, they used to anyhow.
Pr.Plump
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Feb 20, 2015
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Daan"Others however, who are used to Cherry MX, will not even be able to type on it properly [...]"
Those people are obviously biased, or have not even tried Kailh switches before spouting nonsense. Reviews coming from people who have actually tried both switches state that beside the blues (which lack "precision"), Kailh does a pretty good job cloning Cherry, at least in terms of typing feeling. All that remains to be seen is how long those clones will last. As far as I can tell, far so good.
Try and think for yourself, the internet is a place where people judge a lot without knowing...
Those people are obviously biased, or have not even tried Kailh switches before spouting nonsense. Reviews coming from people who have actually tried both switches state that beside the blues (which lack "precision"), Kailh does a pretty good job cloning Cherry, at least in terms of typing feeling. All that remains to be seen is how long those clones will last. As far as I can tell, far so good.
Try and think for yourself, the internet is a place where people judge a lot without knowing...
Daan
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Feb 22, 2015
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Pr.PlumpIf you try to judge me for being biased towards Cherry MX, here's a review that I am willing to believe:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2u21tg/review_i_gave_up_heres_my_razer_bw_te_review/
Go read it for yourself if you don't believe me, but I still think that most people coming from Cherry MX will noticably feel te difference to a point they can't use it anymore.
People differ, so the usability of the switches does too, but I'm talking about the majority of people here.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2u21tg/review_i_gave_up_heres_my_razer_bw_te_review/
Go read it for yourself if you don't believe me, but I still think that most people coming from Cherry MX will noticably feel te difference to a point they can't use it anymore.
People differ, so the usability of the switches does too, but I'm talking about the majority of people here.
Pr.Plump
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Feb 24, 2015
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DaanI'm not judging, I speak from experience. I understand the bias, I had one before. Then came this board, that I really wanted, so I looked around for proper reviews, not people spilling their bile on something they did not try. As I mentioned in this thread before, Kailh's bad reputation started a few months ago, when a chinese guy posted on Reddit a photo of a first gen yellow switch with a broken stem. Since then, anyone will tell you that these clones are a joke. Except they're now in their third generation, and people who have actually TRIED the stuff give a different opinion.
To summarize : black and red feel exactly like the original, brown feels even "better" because the tactile bump of a Kailh brown is closer to a MX clear than a brown, and blue is mediocre, as its actuation is less precise and crisp than what a MX blue offers.
Now, regarding the review you refer to, two things need to be said. First, these switches are manufactured by Kailh, but Razer added their own changes to the datasheet (for the usual "gamerz" bullshit), so you cannot compare Razer green to MX blue. It doesn't make sense, these are two different switches. So yeah, people coming from MX blue will feel the difference. And Razer's idea of a shorter actuation point was stupid to begin with. Second, Razer green use Kailh's clicky mechanism, which is the most (probably rightfully so) criticized for its lack of precision. When added to Razer's QC, well, there you go, a bad keyboard, with bad switches. Pretty simple.
As an advice, I'd just share my own experience : I now type on this KC 84 with Kailh black, and although I had a big apprhension regarding the global quality, it came out as a nice surprise. The switches are as MX black as it gets, and I'm glad I could get this keyboard without sacrificing on the switch quality. Don't buy it if you want blue switches. Any other color ? Go for it.
Last bit : one of the reviews I based my purchase on : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62357.0
Now, regarding the review you refer to, two things need to be said. First, these switches are manufactured by Kailh, but Razer added their own changes to the datasheet (for the usual "gamerz" bullshit), so you cannot compare Razer green to MX blue. It doesn't make sense, these are two different switches. So yeah, people coming from MX blue will feel the difference. And Razer's idea of a shorter actuation point was stupid to begin with. Second, Razer green use Kailh's clicky mechanism, which is the most (probably rightfully so) criticized for its lack of precision. When added to Razer's QC, well, there you go, a bad keyboard, with bad switches. Pretty simple.
As an advice, I'd just share my own experience : I now type on this KC 84 with Kailh black, and although I had a big apprhension regarding the global quality, it came out as a nice surprise. The switches are as MX black as it gets, and I'm glad I could get this keyboard without sacrificing on the switch quality. Don't buy it if you want blue switches. Any other color ? Go for it.
Last bit : one of the reviews I based my purchase on : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62357.0
Daan
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Feb 25, 2015
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Pr.PlumpI know that Razer Greens aren't a 'clone' as much as the Kailhs are trying to be, and that's ofcourse one thing that needs to be mentioned, thanks.
I know that Kailhs are underrated, but that wasn't really the point to begin with. I was just saying that some people prefer Kailhs and some prefer Cherry MX's, and it's all up to him to decide.
Thanks you summarized what the differences are though, he might find that useful. The problem is I'm an MX Blue fan so I won't jump on this :|
I know that Kailhs are underrated, but that wasn't really the point to begin with. I was just saying that some people prefer Kailhs and some prefer Cherry MX's, and it's all up to him to decide.
Thanks you summarized what the differences are though, he might find that useful. The problem is I'm an MX Blue fan so I won't jump on this :|
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