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Kinesis Advantage2 LF Mechanical Keyboard

Kinesis Advantage2 LF Mechanical Keyboard

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well.. been waiting over a year for this drop and I totally missed it. looks like only nine people ordered. probably will never come back again lol. how much was the keyboard going for?
dunno282
Same, totally missed it.
cherry mx red or cherry mx quiet red? somebody has to answer..
Deungpo
Cherry MX Red... not quiet
Kinesis
thank you very much.. but why not quiet? I think that recent kinesis advantage 2 lf has quiet switches..
I bought the original of one of these a few years ago when I lost feeling in some of my fingers. I've since have had a massive reduction in carpal tunnel pain. It took about 3 months for feeling to return to my fingers. It took me a while to get used to the keyboard, specifically the arrow keys and some of the brackets. However, I now type about 20wpm faster than I ever could on a conventional keyboard. I also have a handmade ergodox that I use when traveling, but it's just not as comfortable. It's expensive, but it's cheaper than surgery.
Please consider adding the standard version with the brown MX switches, I cancelled my order when I realized these have Cherry MX Red.
Saw some reviews of this keyboard on YouTube. Close-ups seem to show that the keycaps are pad-printed. At this price point, it's unbelievable they use pad-printing, which is what you get on your basic $5 membrane keyboard.
JimDetroit
Can’t disagree with you, but I can tell you from anecdotal experience ce that this isn’t a problem. I bought this keyboard 6 years ago (I think it’s version 1 on usb 2.0?) along with a rollerball mouse to help relieve strain on my wrists. Nearly a month after buying it, I seldom experience pain. I work in a call center where I can easily type 20 pages of text every day and the letters are still just as legible. I just wish there was a better solution for the wrist rest.
Awesome that this is here... I have the Advantage and love it and would like a second keyboard for home. But holding off for the non-LF version
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Shouldnt this say quiet red?
 would buy if it was available with the Halos. But with Linear switches it is definitely a no-go
I had one of these some time ago (got it for $2 at university surplus), but switched to an ErgoDox not long after. The Kinesis is huge and the curve of the key bowls didn't quite fit my fingers right, and the Cherry brown switches were just a bit too light having come from a Model M. I also had troubles with the built-in key remap functions, but I had an old firmware version and didn't bother to ask for a new EEPROM. The ErgoDox kept all of my favorite features from the Kinesis (like that excellent thumb grouping) while being more practical. I even copied the deep-dish keycaps for all home keys on my ErgoDox. Seeing this here makes me think I should dig the old Kinesis out of storage and give it another try. Maybe I'll like it better now.
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I have a PS/2 model disassembled and waiting for me to get busy with the switch/controller board swap. The process is the same, provided your board isn't that much older than my 2004 Kinesis Essential. This is the board I put my 67g Zilents on:
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A gallery with a few more photos is here: https://imgur.com/a/AAOOh Here's the gallery of the same board, pre-switch swap, with the Stapelberg controller: https://imgur.com/a/URWpX
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If you need more keys, take a look at the Dactyl Manuform. There are various configs, and if you look around, you might find the script that will generate a custom configuration for you. I have yet to build my Dactyl, but it's on the bucket list for when I'm ready to tackle a more involved build.
I’m just dropping in to say this is the strangest keyboard I’ve seen in a long time.
Knugles
You need to see a DataHand...
odd function keys 😢
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I have one at work with browns that I love. Started a long time ago with a Kinesis Freestyle, then eventually switched to an ergodox infinity with zealios, then got an Advantage 2 through my employer w/ browns. Working my way up from split to split ortho to the Advantage meant the time to learn was minimal. In it's original state, it was already the most comfortable keyboard I had ever typed on. My biggest problem was stretching my right pinky on the ergodox (and every other keyboard) to hit P/[/], but they can reach much easier on the advantage. The keywell shape in general brings keys closer to my fingers, so I can move/stretch my hands less to reach far away keys. The only other keyboards I see with this feature are some even more expensive Smultron kayboards, and the very DIY Dactyl keyboard. I have some gripes about the layout, but most of those can be fixed w/ the built in remapping. I Was still not satisfied with the built in mapping, so I built some PCBs and did a Stapelberg mod to get full QMK on my advantage 2. I also bought spare keywell/thumb cluster parts from kinesis so I could swap other switches into the kinesis w/o having to desolder. Happy to say my Advantage 2 has Kailh Box Jades (and space/enter have Box Navys).
spray
u/insertsnideremarks, is that you?
Xyverz
Nope. Did someone else stapelberg and box jade their A2?
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It just seems awfully pricey, and big, for a ergonomic option. Ergodox is cheaper and smaller, there are other split keyboards that allow for customization of distance and tilt. With this it looks like fixed on both of these. Not that it doesn't look like an interesting/nice keyboard, $300 is just a significant amount to drop for the experience.
mhmalcolm
Check the comment from the person above who said they picked one up at University surplus for $2! Definitely a keyboard that wouldn't have great resale value outside of those who know how special it is. Most people who shop at a resale shop wouldn't want to bother with it, thus the low price.
Does anyone use one of these already, and if so how does it compare to the current MS Ergonomic keyboards. I use the MS one, which has a more neutral angle to the keys, with the front edge raised - this works much better in a standing position than traditional keyboards which are raised at the back. This keyboard looks like the design will put tilt pressure on the wrist when used standing - or does it too have a way to raise the front edge?
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Masserdon
+1 to both of the above comments. This is in a completely different league from the MS Ergo. My job isn't as hard on my wrists these days, but an Advantage saved me from a nasty RSI in college. Keep in mind that the relationship between rows on a contoured keyboard doesn't work the same as a standard keyboard, because your hands move differently. On any non-contoured keyboard, to reach rows other than the home row, your hand will move at the wrist. On a contoured keyboard, your wrist does not need to move -- just your finger joints. If you look at the Advantage from the side, you'll notice the home row is basically parallel to the desk. Optimize for that and you'll be fine.
dtremit
All, thanks for the input.
Damn, I was seriously considering this drop until I saw Cherry Reds are the only option.
lifeonadklein
Indeed. The non-LF variant has browns, which I prefer to any linear switch.
If I select optional blank keycaps, do I still have normal keycaps?
usrj
Yes, the Blank caps are a seperate kit you install yourself after removing the QWERTY's