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Joe88
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May 5, 2018
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How well built and durable are these Kizers? I was not super impressed by my We Knives / Ferrum Forge Falcon. I had to loctite the main pivot to keep the blade from loosening within less than a dozen flips and saw the pivot bolt looked a bit on the wimpy side.
May 5, 2018
Omniseed
1972
May 5, 2018
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Joe88Interesting, I have never had to loctite my Falcon, though I did get it secondhand. It had barely been touched before the previous owner sold it to me, I have #0018 and had mine in hand before most people in the original drop had theirs, so I doubt he opened it up and loctited it or anything. Mine is basically a perfect example of a titanium flipper, always getting smoother, never giving me trouble.
I've had a Kizer Tigon, Sealion, Velox2, Vanguard Gemini, and a Corto. All of them are very well made, the titanium is always beautifully milled and the Velox2 is another knife that has never needed a touchup no matter how many times I flip it. Very good lockup, it's the second nice framelock I have owned, the Tigon was the first. The Tigon was great, the detent was a little bit soft for the flipper tab to really launch the blade, but for the thumbstuds it was absolutely perfect. The lockup was great like the rest of the Kizers I have owned. It got traded and I've always thought that maybe I should have kept it and ground off the flipper tab.
I bet the River Cat, especially in its updated form with a lockbar insert, will be similarly perfect with some margin for personal preference.
May 5, 2018
PigmonkeY
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May 6, 2018
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Joe88Quite the opposite, my biggest issue with the Falcon was that it had fasteners put in so hard that the torx part was stripped from factory.

My falcon can never come fully apart.
May 6, 2018
MyMilkyNipples
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May 7, 2018
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Joe88Very good man, Ive had mine for a while and use it for work. It flips awesome and stays together, i havent put anything onto the threads.
May 7, 2018
Omniseed
1972
Dec 18, 2018
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Joe88Nothing wrong with a nicely made framelock that needs threadlocking shortly after you get it. Usually they ship fairly clean so that people who want to modify theirs can do it easily and don't need to worry about stripping any screws held by fresh loctite. With knives like these, people anodize or carve the scales, refinish the blade, even just take the pivot apart and really swab out any manufacturing detritus when they first get their knife. It is part of this style of knife, whereas a more workmanlike knife will often come with threadlocker applied or even longer lasting grease, because a knife like that doesn't make sense to strip immediately. There's just no reason to go ham on a knife like my Kizer GTi, it's entirely tungsten DLC coated with heavily milled G10 scales and a Ti deep carry clip. I did open the pivot and cleaned off a bit of G10 scraps that were caught between the scale and the pivot screw, threadlocked it, and now it is perfect for the kind of knife it is. With a knife like the Falcon or this River Cat, you will want to threadlock it and set the pivot to your own preference, so the lack of threadlocker from the factory is a positive aspect and a sign that they are well aware that the people buying their knives are mostly full-on enthusiasts, and they are catering to us.
Dec 18, 2018
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