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Kizer Willumsen Super Bad Drop-Point Fixed Blade

LordOpie

Nov 14, 2018

WTF?

Cutting edge: 3.75 in (9.5 cm)
Blade length: 4.75 in (12.1 cm)

granted, I never really understood the point of a choil bigger than minimal. But to lose a full 0.5" of metal for... what? Someone educate me on this please.

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14themoney

1395

Nov 14, 2018

LordOpieIt is said that when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. My teacher hasn't appeared either. Perhaps there is nothing to teach here. In the words of Snidely Whiplash, "Furses, Choiled again!" My FF Falcon has a big choil and that is one reason that I really don't like it.

LordOpie

Nov 14, 2018

14themoney "Furses, Choiled again!" LOL thanks! Ok, so I'm not the only one who isn't a choil fan?

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14themoney

1395

Nov 14, 2018

LordOpieI'm down with sharpening choils, but if I want a short cutting blade, I will get a small knife. The hole idea of a large choil is anathema to me. I don't understand it, either. Not at all.

0880

Nov 14, 2018

LordOpieUsually when a choil is of this size, it's so you can choke up on the blade. I have never handled this particular knife, but it also looks like the concave dip on the top of the blade is for a thumb ramp while choking up. I personally really like this idea, as it allows for much more control of the blade when doing finer work. And allowing for more grip options adds to the knifes versatility.

Gamaliel

Nov 14, 2018

LordOpieI'm not a fan of choils either. I generally prefer the cutting edge to extend as close to the handle as possible (a sharpening choil is fine). I'll echo 14thmoney... I'd rather switch to a smaller knife than use a choil to choke up on a blade. I sortof subscribe to the "right tool for the job" philosophy rather than the "one tool option". Although I suppose if you're out in the field, you may not have a smaller knife laying around. But frankly, I'm just generally not a big fan of larger blades (over 5") anyway. if I need to chop or process fire wood, I'd prefer a small machete like the Condor Pack Golok or Mini Duku Parang. The handle on this "Super Bad" is only 4" though... so people with larger hands may find that very uncomfortable and be glad that choil is there. I'd be a lot more interested in this knife with a larger handle and no the choil.

LordOpie

Nov 14, 2018

0880Thanks for your feedback. I guess I have to give a choil a real chance, but I haven't had an issue holding the actual blade spine for smaller work. A choil just seems like a smaller knife with a longer handle.

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LordOpie

Nov 14, 2018

GamalielThanks for your reply! I also like goloks and parangs. But I find myself using a smaller silky saw instead or just whacking branches with a baton. A wood baton to de-limb is very effective if someone in your family just annoyed you. I'm sorry if I pooped on this knife, but I'd rather the choil space be used for more handle. As you said, it's only 4".

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Gamaliel

Nov 14, 2018

LordOpieYeah I definitely would prefer a Silky or Sven saw for cutting fire wood... but you can't split wood with a saw. But as I said, I'd prefer a small (10-12") golok or parang to a long (7"+) knife for that task. I think I only own one knife longer than about 5"... a Schrade SCHF52M. A nice knife, especially for the price, but the choil on that knife pisses me off. LOL.

LordOpie

Nov 14, 2018

Gamalielsplitting wood with a saw! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSOXU0rrqOM

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Gamaliel

Nov 15, 2018

LordOpieTouche... but that's not nearly as much fun as batoning. :) And I wonder what kind of tree that was and how effective that is on different types of trees.

namhod

1991

Nov 16, 2018

0880What's the last "detail work" you choked up for?

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14themoney

1395

Nov 16, 2018

LordOpieWho knew? I was thinking that he was going to baton with the thing.

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0880

Nov 17, 2018

namhodMy current EDC does not have a finger choil. But when I did carry one the last time I remember would be stripping the outer jacket off of multi conductor cabling. I used the conventional choil grip to make the ring cut, then switched to a tip control grip where the tip of your middle finger is in the choil and your index finger is at the tip,to make the length cut. This cable is about 1" thick of that makes it easier to imagine.

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LordOpie

Nov 17, 2018

0880I guess my question is... does the choil really add to control? how does it help? How is a 4.25" piece of metal with a 3.75" sharpened section better than a knife with no choil and a 3.75" sharpened section?

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